Aorus X570 Master

[jesdals]

Managed to lower timings a little and mem voltage 1.44, will not accept lower voltage at CL15

Did manage 4000MHz but no luck with infity fabric at 1900MHz with 3800MHz settings. Will try to lower voltage on my 4500MHz Pstates settings next, present stil at 1.45 vcore

Setting vcore to 1.437 in bios gave a small decrease in max temp during gaming Division 2 (favorit game for the moment) normal peak at 80c and now 74,1c - thats nice, gues I have to game some more to ensure stability

 

[jesdals]

Did some more tweaking and 1.412v vcore and 1.44 seems to be the sweet spot

Stil very hot chipset - result above after more than 2 ours in Division 2

 

[Divide Overflow]

F10a posted from Gigabyte with AGESA 1.0.0.4 B

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1. Update AMD AGESA 1.0.0.4 B
2. Improve system boot time
3. Improve RAID function compatibility
4. Add AMD Raven Ridge APU (Ryzen 2400G/ 2200G) support

 

[Zach_01]

For Aorus Pro the 1.0.0.4 B (F10a) is like 1.0.0.3 ABB boost clocks all over again... It did improve boot time a bit but not worthing loosing boost clocks.
I got back to F6b 1.0.0.3 ABBA

 

[Calmmo]

all the F#"letterhere" bios'es are betas.

 

[AlienIsGOD]

all the F#"letterhere" bios'es are betas.

Pretty sure ppl are aware of this...

 

[Calmmo]

you'd be surprised how many arent and claim otherwise. Literally just saw someone get downvoted to hell and back for saying that on an amd gigabyte thread.
So yeah the vast majority don't

 

[AlienIsGOD]

you'd be surprised how many arent and claim otherwise. Literally just saw someone get downvoted to hell and back for saying that on an amd gigabyte thread.
So yeah the vast majority don't

TPU members aren't the vast majority tho, this thread is 6 pages long... I'm sure ppl HERE know, what's what

 

[Zach_01]

For Aorus Pro the 1.0.0.4 B (F10a) is like 1.0.0.3 ABB boost clocks all over again... It did improve boot time a bit but not worthing loosing boost clocks.
I got back to F6b 1.0.0.3 ABBA

2 days ago I decide to give F10a another try as it was a rather quick swap, without messing settings, and also I said to try along the 1usmus power plan(+UEFI settings).
Still the same... but then it came to me...
When I had 1.0.0.3 ABBA setting on PBO was in advanced mode +200MHz = boost as advertised 4.2GHz.
With 1.0.0.4 B, PBO advanced+200MHz boost came down like 50~100MHz.
Tried PBO from "advanced" to just "Enabled" and boosts again hit 4.2GHz, so thats it for me... I'm on the F10a for good... plus the faster boot time bonus.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

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if anyone with this board is looking for an affordable set of Bdie newegg has a pretty nice sale going today. I've had excellent luck with it on the Aorus Master with a 3900X. I ordered a second kit to mess around with how 4 dimms behave on the board with this kit.

 

[Chomiq]

F10c bios is out for x570 line. Anyone updated already?

So far the only thing I found is that it contains a fix for boot problems with pci-e sound cards.

 

[jesdals]

Been testing it and found, that I had to give more Vcore to CPU, raised from 1.412 to 1.425

Here is my 4500Mhz all core settings - If you to try the setting, setup memory at possible speed and then Infinity fabric first. Try to set the Pstates value at a start vcore setting at 1.45v I am not using any other setting than the Vcore setting in the Tweaker menu and then these.

Here is and old copy of my Tweak meny setting, I would start the Pstates OC at 1.45

As you can see from the menu. I am only setting the CPU Vcore and Dram Voltage. I found that enabling XMP and level 1 made it more stable to apply memory setting under the Advanced Memory Settings. I have been using the Ryzen Dram calculator to find optimal settings.

Setting memory and Infinity should be your first step

Currently giving these results

 

[mstenholm]

Before you all ask why @jesdals post all these setting I can say it is primarily for me, the novice 3900X owner that wanted to try his P-state OC.

 

[jesdals]

Doing some memory tweaking -

using 1.44 voltage - but still challenge with CL14 - but CL15 and above is possible with my memory

I seems to take more than 1.5 voltage to memory to make it boot, but not stable in Windows. 1.5+ seems out of my safe zone, so Think I stay at cl15. Did the test on the F5I and latest F10c bios, also tried with PBO enabled and no Pstates oc. Could not make it boot with the PBO settings, so kept my all core OC.

 

[Calmmo]

So I finally got a functional master - RMA - they replaced it, tho i had to wait 1.5month to get it.

First impressions from default (F4) bios were... hoooly, that was bad, failing to initialize and then restarting with a "load defaults" on every over restart. Long wait times per restart too

On F10c things seem alright tho. Haven't had any time to tweak etc, but from a first look it appears XMP isn't applying on the 2x16 F4-3600C16D-32GTZN.
Really not sure why, IF was also set manually to 1800, it's reported as 1200.. Gonna have to look further into that.



tried a few things since i originally posted but regardless of settings it seems it simply wont keep my settings no matter what. The settings are there in the bios, but the system always boots in 2133jdec

 

[TheLostSwede]

So I finally got a functional master - RMA - they replaced it, tho i had to wait 1.5month to get it.

First impressions from default (F4) bios were... hoooly, that was bad, failing to initialize and then restarting with a "load defaults" on every over restart. Long wait times per restart too

On F10c things seem alright tho. Haven't had any time to tweak etc, but from a first look it appears XMP isn't applying on the 2x16 F4-3600C16D-32GTZN.
Really not sure why, IF was also set manually to 1800, it's reported as 1200.. Gonna have to look further into that.

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tried a few things since i originally posted but regardless of settings it seems it simply wont keep my settings no matter what. The settings are there in the bios, but the system always boots in 2133jdec

Well, FYI, I can't run XMP with my sticks, at all.
I would suggest getting the DRAM Calculator and then enter the safe settings to start with to get the system to booth at the correct memory speed and then try the fast settings.
Keep in mind that the XMP settings are for Intel CPUs and don't seem to work as well as people expect it to with AMD CPUs.
Also, you seem to have dual rank modules, which Ryzen isn't super fond of and AMD has always said that dual rank modules can't run at as high speeds as single rank modules. That said, it doesn't seem to be an issue at the speeds your RAM is rated at, based on reviews elsewhere.

Even G.Skill notes the following:
Additional Notes Rated XMP frequency & stability depends on MB & CPU capability.

As a side note, the final F10 UEFI was just released.

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[Calmmo]

Yeah just got back from work and it seems the only way i can boot with custom.. anything ram is via amd overclocker. Tweaker results in startup errors even at 3200 with auto timings (and no xmp)
Anyway time to flash.. again.

Also..turns out my Patriot Viper rgb 16gb kit was b-die after all!


Went back to my Gskill 's, all it took was a non beta bios I guess..
Anyway, failed 1 boot at 1877 IF, dropped down to 1833+mem and I'm back in the OS. Loose timings etc and I can probably drop down to 1.35 but for now i just need to actually install a couple of programs.. drivers etc

 

[TheLostSwede]

Yeah just got back from work and it seems the only way i can boot with custom.. anything ram is via amd overclocker. Tweaker results in startup errors even at 3200 with auto timings (and no xmp)
Anyway time to flash.. again.

Also..turns out my Patriot Viper rgb 16gb kit was b-die after all!
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Went back to my Gskill 's, all it took was a non beta bios I guess..
Anyway, failed 1 boot at 1877 IF, dropped down to 1833+mem and I'm back in the OS. Loose timings etc and I can probably drop down to 1.35 but for now i just need to actually install a couple of programs.. drivers etc

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Looks like you might've been unlucky and gotten a CPU that can't do more than 1833 on the IF, but I guess this is a pretty huge improvement in your case, considering nothing wanted to work before.

 

[Calmmo]

Yeah, could have been DDR4 too, i was trying to do CL16 3733 with 1.40v and the Viper kit, not the Gskill.
I've the neo installed now I'll try to eliminate ram being the issue and see if IF can fly solo with 3733 (when i'm back from work - in the middle of a big system roll-out and working overtime, no time to play)

I was surprised to see AmdCoon'nQuiet in the giga bios tho (and turned on by default). Especially after hearing robert hallock say it's not at all a Ryzen/bios feature and it only existed up until the FX series. (i did have a phenom II 965 that also had it back in.. 09?) Weird board partner code leftover.. i guess?
I have it disabled.. for the time.

 

[TheLostSwede]

Yeah, could have been DDR4 too, i was trying to do CL16 3733 with 1.40v and the Viper kit, not the Gskill.
I've the neo installed now I'll try to eliminate ram being the issue and see if IF can fly solo with 3733 (when i'm back from work - in the middle of a big system roll-out and working overtime, no time to play)

I was surprised to see AmdCoon'nQuiet in the giga bios tho (and turned on by default). Especially after hearing robert hallock say it's not at all a Ryzen/bios feature and it only existed up until the FX series. (i did have a phenom II 965 that also had it back in.. 09?) Weird board partner code leftover.. i guess?
I have it disabled.. for the time.

It was apparently always there and enabled, alongside the other features, just not user accessible. I guess they decided to add it, as by now showing those options, users presumed they weren't part of Gigabyte's UEFI. That said, it was always working, but when you can't see a certain feature is there, how can you assume it's there and working?
You shouldn't disable it though, as it apparently improves performance, weirdly enough.
Look under General advice here

Global C-state Control, CPPC Preferred Cores, and AMD Cool'n'Quiet should always be set to "Enabled".

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[Calmmo]

huh, dunno really, RH was on Pcworld for a podcast/promo thing for 3950x few days ago and he straight up said CoolnQuiet isn't a ryzen thing.

 

[TheLostSwede]

huh, dunno really, RH was on Pcworld for a podcast/promo thing for 3950x few days ago and he straight up said CoolnQuiet isn't a ryzen thing.

It's apparently been part of MSI's UEFI since the 300-series motherboards, so go figure.
Maybe it's not the same as on previous generations, but it apparently does something.

 

[Chomiq]

Updated to F10 today, so far so good. Boot time seems slightly improved. Windows shows 9.3 seconds with fast boot enabled. Down from 15-18 seconds on F5a.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

Probably done tinkering with this I doubt I will get better speeds/timings than these. I got to say I am impressed with these 2 Team T-FORCE NIGHT HAWK Legend RGB 3200 CL14 kits.

$225 well spent in my opinion. They also rock in cpu limited gaming. Stock XMP performance is not all that great though which isn't surprising considering they are not on the qvl.
Going from 16 to 32GB I did have to loosen timings a bit which was a bummer but in any real world type workload I haven't noticed lesser performance.

 

[mstenholm]

Installed Ryzen Master. Hmm - plus 6 degree C for around 50 MHz. All core voltage 100 % load gone up from 1.26 to 1.30 V.