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Maps, science, data & statistics tracking of COVID-19

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More and better breakdown of stats for Oregon

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20 to 291930
30 to 393940
40 to 4963140
50 to 5952120
60 to 6970283
70 to 7940215
80 and over2783
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1 of 4 (more) needed hospitalization... scary...

Ohio is about the same...704 positive, 182 hospitalized...
 
As of now, USA has taken the #1 spot.

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On other news, Russia claims to have only 840 cases.
 
New daily numbers have been released for Louisiana: about 18,000 tests completed. 2,305 positive. That’s a growth of about 550 in a day. Our first 10 have recovered. 83 deaths.

Of the positive tests, 676 are hospitalized, with 239 of those on ventilator. About 1,550 of the positive cases are concentrated in the population center of the New Orleans metro area.

It’s nice to be finally reporting some recoveries here.

10.37% of total infected require ventilator in Louisiana: what if that percentage holds true for the entire USA?

With 83507 cases as of today, that's a total of 8660 ventilators required. Keep in mind that, thus far in USA, there's no indication this virus will slow it's spread rate so how long until USA doesn't have enough ventilators for every COVID-19 case, not to mention all other medical problems that ALSO require them?

Portugal as a whole had roughly 1500 ventilators in the entire nation, and that includes ventilators from private institutions (that's 1500 roughly TOTAL: not available, because many are in use for other issues), but we've ordered another 500, though i have no idea when they'll become available. Ofc, Portugal is MUCH smaller than USA, so there's that but still ...
 
The result would be millions and millions of dead - that to me is not interesting.


This video is from one hospital in Italy....just for you, listen at 1:30


I watched that last night, actually. Goddamn. :(
 
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10.37% of total infected require ventilator in Louisiana: what if that percentage holds true for the entire USA?

With 83507 cases as of today, that's a total of 8660 ventilators required. Keep in mind that, thus far in USA, there's no indication this virus will slow it's spread rate so how long until USA doesn't have enough ventilators for every COVID-19 case, not to mention all other medical problems that ALSO require them?

Portugal as a whole had roughly 1500 ventilators in the entire nation, and that includes ventilators from private institutions (that's 1500 roughly TOTAL: not available, because many are in use for other issues), but we've ordered another 500, though i have no idea when they'll become available. Ofc, Portugal is MUCH smaller than USA, so there's that but still ...
Either way, no matter where one is, if 10% holds constant, then there aren’t enough ventilators anywhere.
 
As of 2018, USA had ~160,000 ventilators. As long as the cases requiring hospitalization slows down soon...USA will be fine. USA healthcare system can handle 3-4 more ICU cases than any other country per 100k.

The main concern right now is safety of healthcare workers...that's masks. Ventilators become a problem if the curve isn't flattened.
 
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Does anyone really believe in China's data?
 
As of 2018, USA had ~160,000 ventilators. As long as the cases requiring hospitalization slows down soon...USA will be fine.
I was just about to give you that number. The places where it is worst now are running out. An overall number is not a good measure. New orleans is early at full ventilator capacity. Places not at full capacity will not ship them out elsewhere. Nor should they, because they will need them eventually. The national reserve stockpile is not a huge number. It will be zero very soon.
 
Portugal's bank is already estimating Portugal's 2020's economy will tank from 3.7% to 5.7%.

Most countries are trying to purchase medical supplies from outside their borders (China? Elsewhere?) and the demand for these supplies will only increase: how long until the manufacturers can't satisfy all orders and, even if they manage to satisfy them, how long until they do it?

I think it's time the various countries SERIOUSLY consider re-tooling some factories in order to manufacture the supplies themselves: like what happened during WW2 but, instead of weapons, medical supplies, from ventilators, masks, ... toilet paper ..., whatever else is needed.

I've got NO IDEA how this could be achieved, logistically and legally speaking, but i think it's imperative they start AS SOON AS POSSIBLE because this sort of thing doesn't happen overnight as it requires specialized equipment and workers.

This is needed in the hopes the CURRENT manufacturers of these medical supplies don't get overtaxed themselves, @ which point, a shortage could end up making this crisis prolong itself, and NOBODY wants that.

USA has 10s of thousands if not 100s of thousands of ventilators. New York just received 2000 with another 2000 en route. As long as the cases requiring hospitalization slows down soon...USA will be fine.

As of 2018, USA had ~160,000 ventilators.

That's a ventilator for every 2K people: by comparison, Portugal has a ventilator for every 6667 people.

Is there a statistic of how many are being used, on average? Such data could tell us roughly how many available for COVID-19.
 
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I was just about to give you that number. The places where it is worst now are running out. An overall number is not a good measure. New orleans is early at full ventilator capacity. Places not at full capacity will not ship them out elsewhere. Nor should they, because they will need them eventually. The national reserve stockpile is not a huge number. It will be zero very soon.
Yeah...and it's been said that production isn't going to see serious ramping for months yet because of the logistics and design problems. That's why everyone is getting deathly serious about quarantine. It's the only way to ensure that doctors don't have to decide who lives or dies.

There's talk about repurposing anesthesia equipment for COVID-19 patients too...

Is there a statistic of how many are being used, on average? Such data could tell us roughly how many available for COVID-19.
No idea. Hospitals are probably too busy dealing with the situation to keep track. The idea is to not let it get to that point in the first place.
 
Tesla, Ford, Fiat, GM, and now Dyson have said they will produce ventilators. Again, same problem: they are needed now. Article doesn't say when the first shipments will go out.
The call for ventilators came after the U.K.’s Department for Health and Social Care warned that the reported 8,175 devices currently available to the 60 million people across Britain and Northern Ireland are not nearly enough.
Ouch!
 
Yeah...and it's been said that production isn't going to see serious ramping for months yet because of the logistics and design problems. That's why everyone is getting deathly serious about quarantine. It's the only way to ensure that doctors don't have to decide who lives or dies.

There's talk about repurposing anesthesia equipment for COVID-19 patients too...


No idea. Hospitals are probably too busy dealing with the situation to keep track. The idea is to not let it get to that point in the first place.

I'm was wondering from a time pre-COVID-19: perhaps as late as January this year, or maybe last year, or even the year before? This type of data would be VERY helpful.

The call for ventilators came after the U.K.’s Department for Health and Social Care warned that the reported 8,175 devices currently available to the 60 million people across Britain and Northern Ireland are not nearly enough.

That's a ventilator for every 7340 people: even worse than Portugal. No idea if that's the number of CURRENTLY not-in-use ventilators or if that number is the actual total, including those that are currently being used for other medical problems.
 
It does say "currently available" as in not total.
 
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I thought I’d leave this article here. New Orleans is about to open up its biggest convention center for 1,100 beds. It’s actually a pretty level-headed article.

I thought it interesting because it also taks about ventilator numbers, or rather the lack of them. Also, New Orleans has been following a skyrocketing path like New York. The two have been among the fastest growing in the U.S.

 
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I thought I’d leave this article here. New Orleans is about to open up its biggest convention center for 1,100 beds. It’s actually a pretty level-headed article. I thought it interesting because it also taks about ventilator numbers, or rather the lack of them soon.
Something wrong with the link because all i get is a blank page.

It does say "currently available" as in not total.
In Portugal's case the actual number of available (for COVID-19) is much smaller than 1500, because a significant part is in use from other medical issues, but i don't have an estimate of the number of free ventilators we have.

Most programmed surgeries in Portugal have been postponed with only those that can't wait going ahead: the government ordered this in the hopes of freeing medical personnel and ventilators to use with this virus and delay our eventual shortage as long as possible.
 
Something wrong with the link because all i get is a blank page.
It worked for me testing it out. I re-posted. Try it now.
 
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Ok, now things are getting a bit scary.

Are they really, or do we need to be VERY careful about what we link and check our content a bit more?

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Chloe was coughing and suddenly died. Must be Corona, right?

Please... this is the kind of news that doesn't help anyone. Zero substance. But very easy to see a head line copy pasted for days. This is how you get fake news taken for real. Its even from the Guardian, they should be ashamed of themselves.

Tesla, Ford, Fiat, GM, and now Dyson have said they will produce ventilators. Again, same problem: they are needed now. Article doesn't say when the first shipments will go out.

Ouch!

They key is being extremely selective with who you place on the ICU and also 'when'. This is part of what went wrong in Italy and Spain. Early move to ICUs taking up valuable equipment and bed for several days when its not needed, and in many cases, in hindsight was never truly required at all.

Here in the Netherlands the vast majority of deaths never saw the ICU because quite simply, it would not have benefited them regardless. We've been quicker than Italy and Spain in saying 'this is a lost case' - or more politically correct: 'the quality of life post ICU will be too low to make the effort'. Family gets involved in those decisions, too. Its part of the reason the elderly have a higher death rate, hospitalization would not bring them anything, they're too weak to fight it anyway.

I really do wonder how the US healthcare system responds to these ethical choices at this time, I honestly have no idea or view on how that works over there. Do you?
 
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On and off ignore list twice.

This is off topic, but I'm not a fan of the ignore function. It's so easy to not read posts.

On other news, Russia claims to have only 840 cases.

That could be an accurate number, as in that is how many have tested positive and they are not testing many. Sweden only reports some 2000 cases, but that is because we only test people in risk groups. It is basically assumed that if you get a cold it's COVID-19 and we are supposed to self isolate in such cases. Meanwhile, busses in Stockholm were jam packed with people due to a "driver shortage". Also we get our paychecks on the 25th so it's now the salary weekend which means people have money to spend again. We'll see how the weekend goes, apparently the 25th was pretty normal according to the police...
 
They key is being extremely selective with who you place on the ICU and also 'when'. This is part of what went wrong in Italy and Spain. Early move to ICUs taking up valuable equipment and bed for several days when its not needed, and in many cases, in hindsight was never truly required at all.

Here in the Netherlands the vast majority of deaths never saw the ICU because quite simply, it would not have benefited them regardless. We've been quicker than Italy and Spain in saying 'this is a lost case' - or more politically correct: 'the quality of life post ICU will be too low to make the effort'. Family gets involved in those decisions, too. Its part of the reason the elderly have a higher death rate, hospitalization would not bring them anything, they're too weak to fight it anyway.
Yeah, that's a fundamental difference between southern and northen people (or countries, if you will) that's already causing some tension in the EU, as yesterday's meeting showed. Simply put, latins don't view family the same way (a sizeable amount anyway, younger generations seem to be getting more disensitized).
For example, the 95 year old grandmother that got cured in Italy would've probably gotten a death sentence in the Netherlands or Germany.

The US being a mish-mash of people, how they tackle the issue could honestly go either way, I think. Places where latin ancestry run deeper might aim to save everyone, whereas those with stronger nordic roots might be more calculated in their approach.
 
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