ASUS P6T Deluxe V2 / i7-920 - ASUS ROG Strix Radeon RX 570 OC 8GB able to run?

[jlewis02]

Will play doom just fine but I would get more memory.
I had 6gb and it lagged in a lot of games got 6 more gb and the lag went away.

 

[busfahrer09]

I agree with the others. I have come from where you are now. I upgradet from a I7 920 OC to 4 GHz and 2x GTX 970 In SLI to a 6 core I7 980X oc to 4.4 GHz on all cores and a GTX 1080 TI. Trust me the upgrade to 6 cores oc to 4 GHz+ is the best thing i dit back then and with 6 core xeons being as cheap they are now, there is really no reason not to do it. Also your old I7 920 can still bring back a little of the money you spend on a Xeon.

Infact if you are bored from being home maybe in these Covid-19 times and maybe want to burn some money. Here is a little project idea, you cut do with your old setup. I al ready dit it and i am so happy with it.

Replace your I7 920 with a 6 core Xeon like Xeon X5650 or better or if you want to play with unlocket multiplier there are Xeon W3680/W3690. Those are rebranded I7 980X/990X basicly and OC the the crap out of them. 6 core Xeons is godt for over 4 GHz all core oc. If you have a really good aircooler like my own Noctua NH-D14 these old chips can be pushed to 4.4 Ghz or better depending on how good a silicone the chip has.
If you only have 6 GB ram, upgrade to 12 GB ram 1600 MHz or better and remember X58 runs triple channel. Just in case. That Means you shut use 3 or 6 stick of memory. Have seen people only running dual channel and by that lose performance.
I dont know if AMD cards runs on X58, but i can say for sure Nvidia 1000 series cards AKA pascal cards like GTX 1070 and 1080 works flawless. I think there never RTX works as well. But i will reccomend to stick with a used GTX 1080 at most. that will be perfect for some 1080P gaming. I use a GTX 1080 TI because i game in 1600P or 4K when possible.
A little fun fact, if interested. You have a Asus motherboard. That means you have the possibility to run a M.2 NVMe SSD as a boot drive in your system to speed up your pc if interested. What to try it out, you will need a Samsung 950 PRO with 256 GB or 512 GB and a M.2 to PCIe X4 adaptor. I have one running in my own X58 setup and it is a blast to have. Even throw i had a SSD to sata before, i have no regrets taken the steps to a NVMe SSD. just remember only Samsung 950 PRO will work out of boks thanks to its legacy mode, no other NVMe ssd have as i know of.

My system as it is now and before.

I7 920

https://imgur.com/a/WqD1iHK

I7 980X setup.

https://imgur.com/a/uHjbbMg

wow, thanks mate. I already planned to buy another SSD for the games then, could you link me the correct M.2 to PCIe X4 adaptor or can I buy anything. I'll definitely gonna do this!

darf ich fragen wo du herkommst busfahrer? -nur weil ich viel hardware herumliegen habe frage ich.

Nbg, GER



Regarding the memory, I must buy RAM with the same speed and stuff right?

That's what cpuz is giving me

Memory Type DDR3
Memory Size 6 GBytes
Channels Triple
Memory Frequency 534.5 MHz (2:8)
CAS# latency (CL) 7.0
RAS# to CAS# delay (tRCD) 7
RAS# Precharge (tRP) 7
Cycle Time (tRAS) 20
Row Refresh Cycle Time (tRFC) 59
Command Rate (CR) 1T
Uncore Frequency 2138.0 MHz

How do I know if these newer components work out, are they gonna downgrade themselves to speed up in the same speed?

 

[king of swag187]

Good god why are you still on a i7 920 when you can get literally any Xeon for around a 1/4 of the cost of a 570

 

[busfahrer09]

never crossed my mind cause it's the only cpu that board supports - according to the asus HP.

A little fun fact, if interested. You have a Asus motherboard. That means you have the possibility to run a M.2 NVMe SSD as a boot drive in your system to speed up your pc if interested. What to try it out, you will need a Samsung 950 PRO with 256 GB or 512 GB and a M.2 to PCIe X4 adaptor. I have one running in my own X58 setup and it is a blast to have. Even throw i had a SSD to sata before, i have no regrets taken the steps to a NVMe SSD. just remember only Samsung 950 PRO will work out of boks thanks to its legacy mode, no other NVMe ssd have as i know of.

My system as it is now and before.

I7 920

https://imgur.com/a/WqD1iHK

I7 980X setup.

https://imgur.com/a/uHjbbMg

I just bought that, found it on ebay for 55€ what looked like a bargain. Will take roundabout three weeks, maybe I need your help then.

only downside, coming from:
518031 SHENZHEN

 

[basco]

i tried to find out if your motherboard does support xeons but did not find anything: i know gigabyte + asrock do support them

maybe someone with more knowledge about xeons + socket 1366 can answer that plz?

 

[oinkypig]

I also started with the i7 920 x58 before moving up to the 32nm refresh. Had both C0 and D0 stepping revisions for the i7 920. They maxed out at 4.2Ghz and 4.4Ghz before i managed to get an x5675.
Heres my dsktop- X5675 on asus p6t deluxe v1 @ 4.6Ghz daily, It run fine at 4.8Ghz for the majority of its lifetime at 1.45v or more and benched at 5 gigahertz. It managed a CNE15 of 1102pts and CNE11.5 of around 12.25pts
stable 4.6/4.8Ghz settings
FSB-200/209
CPU multi-23x
CPU voltage 1.4375/1.4825v
QPI voltage - 1.35
PLL voltage - 1.90v
Dram Voltage- 1.65v
Dram frequency- dual-channel 2x8Gb G skill trident X ddr2400 @ ddr2095Mhz 10-9-10-20 1T

The x5650,x5660x5670x5675x5680,5690 are multiplieR locked chips- all hit the daily-overclock limit of 4.8Ghz typically, do a search on hwbot for scoring
if i remember the multiplier max out at 20x,21x,22x,23x,24x,25x respectively
The difference is the available Multiplier settings. The 980x and 990x x58 cpu have an unlocked multiplier
Higher multipliers offer more options for Setting Ram frequencies if you run a cpu overclock

I wouldn't settle for anything less than x5675 But if you can find a good 980x or 990x those would be the best and more stable cpu
x5675 - $15
x5680 - $20
x5690 - ~100
980/990x->$100-130

IF you need an aftermarket cooler with fans. Look into AIO self contained water-coolers Corsair's H105 or H110, Most major brands make them. Easier-setup than decorating with an aluminum block

 

[basco]

this is asus p6t on normal bios?? mr. oinkypig

 

[oinkypig]

yes, v1 had additional two sata/sas ports that they got rid of in v2 SAME bios setup as well. Ive done all the homework. gigabyte is worst board manufacturer for x58, lots of no post with xeon chips besides the assassins series boards.

 

[busfahrer09]

just put in the gpu, switching on the power supply the PC made a clearly hearable 'ZZIM' and I prepared to commit suicide - my PC NEVER made that kind of sound but apparently Asus thinks it's a good idea to build shit like that into their products. I was 99% sure something went into smoke here, power supply or even mainboard...

so far drivers are installing and nothing is on fire

So, that's borderline amazing rn and I'm angry my lazy ass didn't do that earlier...
Highest setting possible, only when I try to put Texture Detail to 'High' from 'Medium' the screen kinda blacks out and the game disc's, kinda strange but okay. Maybe the CPU actually can't handle that

Next week I'm gonna get behind this xeon chip and RAM. Thanks a lot for all the recommendations so far!

 

[unclewebb]

Here is my vote for the Xeon W3670.

It was all good for a 5 GHz suicide run too. Just add lots of voltage. At $30 bucks, who cares if it goes pop!

 

[Tomgang]

wow, thanks mate. I already planned to buy another SSD for the games then, could you link me the correct M.2 to PCIe X4 adaptor or can I buy anything. I'll definitely gonna do this!



Nbg, GER



Regarding the memory, I must buy RAM with the same speed and stuff right?

That's what cpuz is giving me



How do I know if these newer components work out, are they gonna downgrade themselves to speed up in the same speed?

You are very welcome. Just so we are clear, only buy M.2 SSD because you want to boot from it. If its only for games, just get a regular sata SSD. M.2 SSD dont really boost your game load time that much.
So you want M.2 NVMe SSD. Here is a few advices then.

1. Sata controller on motherboard needs to be set to AHCI. Raid or IDE will not work. So if you have a raid setup now, you will have to give up on that.
2. At first windows install, you might need to unplug all other drives than M.2 SSD. I had to do it my self, else the system would not boot the first time.
3. Use Windows 10. Its the most easy to use and get it to work with and if you still use Windows 7 you are not getting updates any more any way and it is much more complicated to get it to work as Windows 7 dosent have native support NVMe SSD. I don´t know with windows 8 how that works. I dont know if it will work other OS like Linux. Do a clean install no matter what. Also since you are doing many hardware changes any way, a clean install is a good idea any way. That can save you from trouble later.
4. When you get it up and running. If you make speed test/bechmark on the SSD. Dont be surprized or angry because you dont get the claimed speed of the SSD. You are limit by PCIe gen 2 to around max 1700 MB/s read/ride speed.
5. Before you swap CPU, tjeck up on bios version on motherboard. Cause you need a version that has support for 6 core CPU. So if you are on an older version that only support the 4 core cpu. Then an update is needed, else a 6 core xeon will not work in your motherboard.

So with that on place. You can use any M.2 to PCIe adaptor as long it runs X4. But i do reccomend you to get one that has a passive heatsink to put on the CPU. M.2 NVMe SSD can be very toasted when loaded hard and dont have suficient cooling. In the worst case it will throttle down and also hot running hardware will die sooner. I am using this adaptor that has a passive heatsink.

kryoM.2 PCIe 3.0/4.0 x4 Adapter für M.2 NGFF PCIe SSD, M-Key mit Passivkühler

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Just be clear. This is the SSD you need.

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You might also want to go throw my old thread and read. There are some good advice among the posted answers.

M.2 SSD on old X58 system with M.2 PCI adaptor. Can it work?

I might have gotten a great idea, but im not sure if it will work out. The idea is to get a SAMSUNG 960 EVO M.2 250GB SSD and a Aqua Computer kryo PCIe 3.0 x4 adapter for M.2 NGFF PCIe SSD. But here comes the questions. 1. This pci adaptor is a stated for PCI express 3 X4 , but i only have...

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My system booting with M.2 SSD. Be in mind this is a fresh install with out much installed yet at the time. So generelly boot time will be a bit slower as you install more and more have to start up at boot. But all in all, its a blast to have system that can boot fast. Seconds video i dit some tweaks.

 

[busfahrer09]

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that's the one, seems to be the same. If they send me some different S/N crap they can f themselves cause I paid with paypal...

Oh, I actually thought gaming gonna be much quicker here, that's a bummer. :/ but I can just switch boot-SSD to my new gaming SSD and take the new one for work and university stuff, should be much more enjoyable and 55€ looked good to me.

 

[Tomgang]

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that's the one, seems to be the same. If they send me some different S/N crap they can f themselves cause I paid with paypal...

Oh, I actually thought gaming gonna be much quicker here, that's a bummer. :/ but I can just switch boot-SSD to my new gaming SSD and take the new one for work and university stuff, should be much more enjoyable and 55€ looked good to me.

Yeah that is the correct SSD. You never know with any thing from china about it is legit or not. It can just as well be a rebranded cheap crap. A cheap SSD with a new label or something like that.

NVMe SSD might save you 1 or 2 seconds of load time in games over a sata SSD. NVMe has it´s force as a OS drive, gaming not so much.

 

[stuartb04]

My P6t board with an x5650 @ 4.0ghz paired with a gtx 1080 still does really well even with todays games. just needed to update the bios for the cpu.

Doom Eternal plays like a dream aswell as its really well optimized.

Happy with the system that these guys on here pretty much helped me build.

 

[Grog6]

I have an Asus P6TD Deluxe with a X5670 in it; it was a nice upgrade from the 920.

It runs even cooler at 4.4GHz than the 920 at stock speed; I've got it on a thermalright tower, and it hits ~73C at full load.
At 4.4GHz.

 

[busfahrer09]

Yeah that is the correct SSD. You never know with any thing from china about it is legit or not. It can just as well be a rebranded cheap crap. A cheap SSD with a new label or something like that.

NVMe SSD might save you 1 or 2 seconds of load time in games over a sata SSD. NVMe has it´s force as a OS drive, gaming not so much.

when it helps me to get the 0.2s advantage prevented so far by unexpected lags or framedrops in teamfights or poe instances I'm perfectly fine with the 55€ spending... But yeah, should have asked first if it's useful for gaming but on the other hand it was the last one available and still it's comparable cheap to normal SSDs

 

[Tomgang]

when it helps me to get the 0.2s advantage prevented so far by unexpected lags or framedrops in teamfights or poe instances I'm perfectly fine with the 55€ spending... But yeah, should have asked first if it's useful for gaming but on the other hand it was the last one available and still it's comparable cheap to normal SSDs

950 pro is cheap because it's old and is one of the early m.2 nvme SSD.

About lag, is just as well impacted by CPU/GPU.

I can say that some new games I get lag if settings are to hard on the old cpu, but we are also talking about some of the most demanding games like metro 2033. I run my games from a cheap sata SSD 2 TB. Working great for me. My 950 PRO is solely used as OS drive.

But all in all X58 has served me more and better than I could ever imagine back then I got it. It has been an amazing long lived platform and stayed relevant for so long.

 

[busfahrer09]

Well IF your board working properly then Xeon in combo with RX 570 will give you 60+FPS in 1080p(Ultra settings)easily in Doom Eternal....One more thing make sure to have enough RAM and SSD....my suggestion is at least 12gb and If I could recommend I will go with 16gb-24gb......I personally have 30Gb back then in my X58 platform in all 6 memory slots(3x8+3x2) and it worked like a charm........

It's me again
I just re-read the thread cause I'm about to buy the rest of the components this weekend and I wonder if you could elaborate that point, it sounds like you bought different RAM of different producers? Did you just check they're running the same speed? Or should I just dump the old one and go for a 3x6GB package or something similiar?


So I'm thinking right now Xeon W3680 or Xeon X5680 might be the way to go, according to them it looks like

Supported memory:

DDR3-800 / DDR3-1066 / DDR3-1333

is the only one fitting into the system. First arising question here is 'Can I take used, no-name RAM without the fancy design or do these branded components do any better?'

The price differential is too severe imo, 1GB/~5€ which seems kinda ridiculous for some colorful branding... I'm gonna search the forum later regarding that but maybe someone can give a quick answer here... It must be explicitly called 'Triple Channel Ram DDR3' right, 4 bars where I only use 3 of them isn't the right thing?

 

[dorsetknob]

mem needs to have same matched speed and timings
Preferably from same manafacture for stability

 

[basco]

i would buy used 3x2gb and your old ocz or ditch yours and buy 3x4gb.
no ya dont have to buy special tripple channel or fancy designed ram.
you can buy others too like 1866mhz or 2133mhz or higher and run it at 1333 so no need for i can only use 1333mhz ...... but don´t buy lower then 1333 if thats even possible.

cpu:
for example a xeon 5690 is very similiar to a 990x with unlocked multiplier for easier overclocking but normally xeons are cheaper.

and i think you are not so familiar with overclocking(no offense) so get a cpu with high clocks and six cores from the start so ya can enjoy from 1st moment and overclock it later.

xeon X5680\90 or W3680\90 or 980x\990x are all good choices

just ask here if the price ya get is good

 

[Zyll Goliat]

It's me again
I just re-read the thread cause I'm about to buy the rest of the components this weekend and I wonder if you could elaborate that point, it sounds like you bought different RAM of different producers? Did you just check they're running the same speed? Or should I just dump the old one and go for a 3x6GB package or something similiar?


So I'm thinking right now Xeon W3680 or Xeon X5680 might be the way to go, according to them it looks like

Supported memory:

DDR3-800 / DDR3-1066 / DDR3-1333

is the only one fitting into the system. First arising question here is 'Can I take used, no-name RAM without the fancy design or do these branded components do any better?'


The price differential is too severe imo, 1GB/~5€ which seems kinda ridiculous for some colorful branding... I'm gonna search the forum later regarding that but maybe someone can give a quick answer here... It must be explicitly called 'Triple Channel Ram DDR3' right, 4 bars where I only use 3 of them isn't the right thing?

Get the memory with the same speed&timings,tho' sometimes it's possible to make it work memory's with different speed but that's gambling and you will need to put manually same timings&speed in bios ....personally I was using DDR3 1333Mhz Kingston that I OC....I am still using the same memory now on my X79 platform......

 

[MrGRiMv25]

All the hex core Xeons listed are solid choices, but if you can find a Xeon W3680/90 for cheap then you'll have the unlocked multiplier to enable you to get even higher clocks.

 

[busfahrer09]

xeon X5680\90 or W3680\90 or 980x\990x are all good choices

just ask here if the price ya get is good

W3680 prices vary widely, between 42€ for a chinese product or 88€ bought from a german reseller... They literally flood the german ebay marketplace with dozens of their products rn but the shown pictures don't look any good, all these scratches and shit at places where no one should scratch anything tbh...

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So I try to get my hands on some 3x4 or 3x6GB RAM first and then I'll go from there and hope to snatch a cpu bargain. This site tells me I need CL7 when I have the choice, with at least 1333MHz except someone tells me something else.

 

[busfahrer09]

I'm kinda confused, 3 or 6 of these bars should work, right? Dual Channel is only referring to the CPUs and '2x4GB' is just... yeah what is it?

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[Zyll Goliat]

I'm kinda confused, 3 or 6 of these bars should work, right? Dual Channel is only referring to the CPUs and '2x4GB' is just... yeah what is it?

Spoiler

Yeah they should work fine.....I am just telling you to put 3 or 6 of them because you have triple memory channel on X58 platform....even if memory is label as dual if you put 3 of them in 3 slots(same colour) you will get triple memory channel which is faster&better then dual channel....thats all...you can put 4 of them also but then 3 will work in triple channel and that other one will be in single mode....GL....