Throttlestop overclocking Desktop PCs

[Gdublu]

Yes thank you. I just recieved w3680 today. Will TS only take me to 4.2ghz? Please advise bios and TS settings for highest clock. I hVe added fan to u016 heatsink and have 3 fan rx570 also for cooling

 

[lexluthermiester]

Will TS only take me to 4.2ghz?

That's a silicon lottery situation I'm afraid. You might get 4.4ghz, you might only get 3.9ghz. It just depends on the die and the power quality the system it's going into can deliver. You'll need to experiment to discover the limits of your particular Xeon CPU.

It's not unreasonable to think you should be able to get 4ghz. More would be a bonus round! Make sure you have good cooling as you go beyond 4ghz that CPU will start putting out the heat!

 

[Gdublu]

blue screen with 31x. Set tpd to 180. Could that cause blue screen or just multiplier?

 

[unclewebb]

just multiplier?

My W3680 was only 100% stable on my Dell with the 30 multiplier. It could run some light benches like userbenchmark at 31. Back off to 30 and see how it goes.

 

[Gdublu]

My W3680 was only 100% stable on my Dell with the 30 multiplier. It could run some light benches like userbenchmark at 31. Back off to 30 and see how it goes.

Thank you. 30 on all still shut down. I appear stable with 30 on two and rest on 29 which still lets those first two cores hit 4ghz

 

[lexluthermiester]

Set tpd to 180.

That is WAY too high. That CPU is a 130W TDP part. Setting it to 140 or 145 is more than enough to get a solid OC out of it. 140 should allow the board to give it enough voltage to get to 4ghz/30multi, perhaps even 31. Giving it more than 145 will actually cause it to be given too much power. Keep it modest and see what you can get.

 

[Gdublu]

30 on all cores test if I only bench 4 cores. If i try to bench all 6 I got white noise screen and restart. This one doesnt like 30+

Is it ok to ise different multipliers on each core? The 30, 30 29 seems to be as much as I can get without blue screen, white screen restarts unless there is anything in there to try

 

[lexluthermiester]

Is it ok to ise different multipliers on each core?

Yeah, pretty sure that'll work for you. I've never tried until just now, but it's working on my T3500's(I own 2). Of course mine are set that way by default as they are locked.

The 30, 30 29 seems to be as much as I can get without blue screen, white screen restarts unless there is anything in there to try

What power level are you pushing to it?

 

[Gdublu]

31 works if I do it on two cores then set the remainders to 29

Yeah, pretty sure that'll work for you. I've never tried until just now, but it's working on my T3500's(I own 2).

What power level are you pushing to it?

Only 525 watt psu. Could that be the issue?

 

[lexluthermiester]

31 works if I do it on two cores then set the remainders to 29

Looks like you are getting it sorted. That's a solid OC and nothing to scoff at.

Only 525 watt psu. Could that be the issue?

If it's a Dell PSU, you should be good. Wouldn't hurt to get a 750W, but it's not a necessity. What GPU are you running?

 

[unclewebb]

That is WAY too high. That CPU is a 130W TDP part. Setting it to 140 or 145 is more than enough to get a solid OC out of it.

My definition of a solid overclock is as fast as it will go for as long as possible. In that situation, bumping the TDP up to 180 is a good place to start testing.

Throttlestop overclocking Desktop PCs

Yes, but not on my mainboard :D Thats the problem. Otherwise the x5650 would be enough. That was general information to help others who may want to try this. They are socket 1156 CPUs. When I first posted that I wasn't aware the i5 655K was 2 core so I added that info as a clarification. The...

www.techpowerup.com

Anything less and my W3680 was throttling in the TS Bench test. For Prime95, I had to go higher than that or else the multiplier would be throttling. For gaming I am sure you can get away with a lot less than this. For maximum performance, you have to significantly increase the TDP limit.

Is it ok to ise different multipliers on each core?

You are not using different multipliers on different cores. This setting controls what multiplier the CPU uses based on how many cores are active. When 1 or 2 cores are active, if you have this set to 31, the CPU will use the 31 multiplier. Any core that is active can end up using this multiplier in this situation.

 

[Gdublu]

31 works if I do it on two cores then set the remainders to 29


Only 525 watt psu. Could that be a issue?

Looks like you are getting it sorted. That's a solid OC and nothing to scoff at.


If it's a Dell PSU, you should be good. Wouldn't hurt to get a 750W, but it's not a necessity. What GPU are you running?

Yes dell 525. Rx560 on this one. I have a gtx1660 running in my other t3500 with x5675 so no TS OC there but that system kills games as is. Cant wait to play this one at 3.9-4 I have running solid for the last hour. No temps over 80c in heavy stress test.

Yes dell 525. Rx560 on this one. I have a gtx1660 running in my other t3500 with x5675 so no TS OC there but that system kills games as is. Cant wait to play this one at 3.9-4 I have running solid for the last hour. No temps over 80c in heavy stress test.

Sorry rx 570

My definition of a solid overclock is as fast as it will go for as long as possible. In that situation, bumping the TDP up to 180 is a good place to start testing.

Throttlestop overclocking Desktop PCs

Yes, but not on my mainboard :D Thats the problem. Otherwise the x5650 would be enough. That was general information to help others who may want to try this. They are socket 1156 CPUs. When I first posted that I wasn't aware the i5 655K was 2 core so I added that info as a clarification. The...

www.techpowerup.com

Anything less and my W3680 was throttling in the TS Bench test. For Prime95, I had to go higher than that or else the multiplier would be throttling. For gaming I am sure you can get away with a lot less than this. For maximum performance, you have to significantly increase the TDP limit.


You are not using different multipliers on different cores. This setting controls what multiplier the CPU uses based on how many cores are active. When 1 or 2 cores are active, if you have this set to 31, the CPU will use the 31 multiplier. Any core that is active can end up using this multiplier in this situation.

My t3500 is not liking TDP increase seems like 145 is limit

Yes dell 525. Rx560 on this one. I have a gtx1660 running in my other t3500 with x5675 so no TS OC there but that system kills games as is. Cant wait to play this one at 3.9-4 I have running solid for the last hour. No temps over 80c in heavy stress test.


Sorry rx 570


My t3500 is not liking TDP increase seems like 145 is limit

Seems like the tx bench freezes up if I go over 145 TDP. This is the best multiplier I can get without a crash.

Yes dell 525. Rx560 on this one. I have a gtx1660 running in my other t3500 with x5675 so no TS OC there but that system kills games as is. Cant wait to play this one at 3.9-4 I have running solid for the last hour. No temps over 80c in heavy stress test.


Sorry rx 570


My t3500 is not liking TDP increase seems like 145 is limit

Seems like the tx bench freezes up if I go over 145 TDP. This is the best multiplier I can get without a crash.

This is the t3500 w/ w3680 and Rx570oc. I even did a case mod and added rgb

 

[lexluthermiester]

rx 570

I would swap them. Stick your 1660 with your W3680. Best GPU with the best CPU. The GTX1660 actually uses less power than the RX570 by a significant amount. It's a better combination. And because the GPU is using less power, you might get a better stable result from your W3680.

 

[Gdublu]

Ok ill try in tomorrow for sure. Thank you for the help!

 

[Retrorockit]

30 on all cores test if I only bench 4 cores. If i try to bench all 6 I got white noise screen and restart. This one doesnt like 30+

Is it ok to ise different multipliers on each core? The 30, 30 29 seems to be as much as I can get without blue screen, white screen restarts unless there is anything in there to try

Throttlestop could be text edited on LGA775 4 core CPUs to just overclock 2 cores. I'm not sure how the 6 core CPUs are laid out. Since there are 4 core versions I'm guessing they're 3x2core dies. So assigning TS to cores 0,1 should let you do this for gaming. I think Notepad would do it. I'm planning on trying this with a QX6800 to see if i can break the 4GHz barrier with that CPU.

 

[Gdublu]

Throttlestop could be text edited on LGA775 4 core CPUs to just overclock 2 cores. I'm not sure how the 6 core CPUs are laid out. Since there are 4 core versions I'm guessing they're 3x2core dies. So assigning TS to cores 0,1 should let you do this for gaming. I think Notepad would do it. I'm planning on trying this with a QX6800 to see if i can break the 4GHz barrier with that CPU.

I was able to set to 31,31, 29,29,29,29 and and getting the 4 on the two cores with no crashing. It throttles between 3.888 and 4.1. This should be pretty good for games right now until they start utilizing more cores i beleive.

4.1!

I would swap them. Stick your 1660 with your W3680. Best GPU with the best CPU. The GTX1660 actually uses less power than the RX570 by a significant amount. It's a better combination. And because the GPU is using less power, you might get a better stable result from your W3680.

X5675 in other system. Im looking for a good board to run that on so I can take it to 4.5. Any suggestions on the right board or will w3680 go higher?

I would swap them. Stick your 1660 with your W3680. Best GPU with the best CPU. The GTX1660 actually uses less power than the RX570 by a significant amount. It's a better combination. And because the GPU is using less power, you might get a better stable result from your W3680.

X5675 in other system. Im looking for a good board to run that on so I can take it to 4.5. Any suggestions on the right board or will w3680 go higher?

My definition of a solid overclock is as fast as it will go for as long as possible. In that situation, bumping the TDP up to 180 is a good place to start testing.

Throttlestop overclocking Desktop PCs

Yes, but not on my mainboard :D Thats the problem. Otherwise the x5650 would be enough. That was general information to help others who may want to try this. They are socket 1156 CPUs. When I first posted that I wasn't aware the i5 655K was 2 core so I added that info as a clarification. The...

www.techpowerup.com

Anything less and my W3680 was throttling in the TS Bench test. For Prime95, I had to go higher than that or else the multiplier would be throttling. For gaming I am sure you can get away with a lot less than this. For maximum performance, you have to significantly increase the TDP limit.


You are not using different multipliers on different cores. This setting controls what multiplier the CPU uses based on how many cores are active. When 1 or 2 cores are active, if you have this set to 31, the CPU will use the 31 multiplier. Any core that is active can end up using this multiplier in this situation.

Oooohhhh, I wonder if I can get away with 4 @ 31x is two good enough for gaming?...Im building the systems for my sons to game on since we are stuck at home. I couldnt afford x58 when it came out so im like a kid in a candy store. Im not even going to use them but just love running this tech against new stuff. The system with the 1660 is running as well as same gpu and i5 9400f

T3500 - Xeon W3680 - 20gb ddr3 in weird 4x4 with 2x2 in remaining slots. Dell board doesn't seem to have any issue with it.
Win.10, ssd, powercolor Red Devil 3fan rx570. Total cost under $200 but I got three T3500's for free.

 

[lexluthermiester]

X5675 in other system. Im looking for a good board to run that on so I can take it to 4.5. Any suggestions on the right board or will w3680 go higher?

I'd leave the W3680 in the Dell as it's the only one that will OC in it. The X5675 will do well with BCLK OC's in plenty of 1366 boards from ASUS, EVGA, Gigabyte and MSI.

T3500 - Xeon W3680 - 20gb ddr3 in weird 4x4 with 2x2 in remaining slots. Dell board doesn't seem to have any issue with it.

While it'll run, it's doing so in single channel mode. Take out the 2x2GB a one of the 4GB and just do 4x4GB in triple channel, your RAM performance will increase dramatically. 12GB of RAM will be more than enough for any gaming and whatnot you be doing on that T3500.

Win.10, ssd, powercolor Red Devil 3fan rx570. Total cost under $200 but I got three T3500's for free.

Damn good deal!

 

[Gdublu]

I'd leave the W3680 in the Dell as it's the only one that will OC in it. The X5675 will do well with BCLK OC's in plenty of 1366 boards from ASUS, EVGA, Gigabyte and MSI.


While it'll run, it's doing so in single channel mode. Take out the 2x2GB a one of the 4GB and just do 4x4GB in triple channel, your RAM performance will increase dramatically. 12GB of RAM will be more than enough for any gaming and whatnot you be doing on that T3500.


Damn good deal!

The corsair in there is three channel 4gb. Just leave those right and take the rest out?

The corsair in there is three channel 4gb. Just leave those right and take the rest out?

Also the corsair is 1600mhz. Will that slow the dell or will it jist run it at 1333

 

[lexluthermiester]

The corsair in there is three channel 4gb. Just leave those right and take the rest out?

Yuppers!

Also the corsair is 1600mhz. Will that slow the dell or will it jist run it at 1333

It'll run at 1333, but very likely at tighter timings from the SPD profile. So yeah, you'll be good! CPUZ should show you what those timings are in the Memory Tab.

 

[Retrorockit]

IDK what aftermarket board would be good but you could ask in the X58 Xeon Club at Overclock.net

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BCLK overclocking is a very complex process.
You might look into the 4C/8T X5687. They sell for around$20.

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[lexluthermiester]

BCLK overclocking is a very complex process.

I never had many problems BITD. With modest adjustments my old i7-920 went to 3.8ghz in a 201 BCLK. I don't remember the exact settings but I remember it wasn't difficult. The MSI board I had at the time was an exceptional overclocker. Can't imagine a 6-core X56XX or W36XX will be too difficult to BCLK OC.

 

[EarthDog]

BCLK overclocking is a very complex process.

There is more involved than an unlocked cpu.. but i wouldnt actually call it difficult.

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[Retrorockit]

At OCN 4.5GHz is considered normal. That gets into QPI links, various Voltage offsets, RAM timings and. Almost 1000 pages of it. That's why I started a separate forum for TS overclocking.
They have almost nothing in common.
The word I used was "complex", not "difficult".

 

[Retrorockit]

I found this chart looking up X5687 overclocks at CPUZ.

Intel Xeon @ 6003.15 MHz - CPU-Z VALIDATOR

[025um0] Validated Dump by DR4G00N (2016-02-27 16:23:28) - MB: Gigabyte X58A-OC - RAM: 4096 MB

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Most interesting to me is the Dell T5500 @5GHz not only beating the dual CPU EVGA Classified SR2 dual CPU machines, but hyperthreading at the same time.
I have absolutely no idea how this was done.

Actually looking closer I'm seeing a multiplier of 38 on a locked CPU so I'm going to say it's bogus.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Most interesting to me is the Dell T5500 @5GHz not only beating the dual CPU EVGA Classified SR2 dual CPU machines, but hyperthreading at the same time.
I have absolutely no idea how this was done.

Link?

Actually looking closer I'm seeing a multiplier of 38 on a locked CPU so I'm going to say it's bogus.

Given that info, I would lean that way as well.