X79 and/or rampage IV OC'ing thread for those of us still left....

[Peter Lindgren]

197€ including shipping

 

[Zyll Goliat]

197€ including shipping

Well....still ain't that cheap but considering how much it cost before and still how much some people ask for it that is actually really good price.......

 

[phill]

I'm trying to find some V3 or V4 Xeon's for my R730, but they are not around for the price I'm hoping for... ie free!! That said though if anyone can suggest something else I'd be grateful

That said, I'm after some advise or peoples thoughts to be honest about what to do with a few X79/X99 boards I have here, I'm toying with the idea of something daft and silly for crunching and folding, but also something that will handle some big storage.... I'm open to some daft suggestions

 

[karakarga]

Hi!

I have been doing some upgrades.

First of I scored a cheap 1680v2 from Germany on ebay. Germany is good since it is witin EU so no customs.

I found that 4.4Ghz @1.4v works good. I tried 125Mhz strap but cannot get it stable. CPU never goes above 70c with a Kraken X61.

A decent score for 1680v2

Next of was a bargain I found for $60. An Intel 750 400gb.

Booting on 750 is supported on X99 and newer but I used UBU Tool to update my bios and booting 750 works fine. Link to UBU Tool => https://www.win-raid.com/t154f16-Tool-Guide-News-quot-UEFI-BIOS-Updater-quot-UBU.html

Performance is great. No SATA SSD can compete with this one. Win10 feels snappier and games loads very fast.

Last is a MSI 5700XT Mech.

It is a pain to reinstall Win10 and all apps but it was worth it. Now I can keep X79 for a couple years.

@Peter Lindgren

The best possible way of increasing x79 platform performance is using Xeon E5-2696 v2 CPU. Overclocking Xeon E5-1680 v2 consumes too much power, maybe around 200 Watts. Xeon E5-2696 v2 consumes only 120 Watts. At aliexpress, Xeon E5-2696 v2 prices dropped around $130. I have double from those on my Z9PE-D8 WS. They have 9250~9500 points on CPU-Z. It is currently pricey and very difficult to find an Asus Z9PE-D8 WS, but Jingsha X79Dual S8 is easy to obtain. This one is around $155.

An alternative way of increasing system performance is, using Xeon E5-2678 v3 CPU on Huananzhi X99-T8 mainboard with DDR3 memory. (There are X79-TF and X79-F8 as well.) Together, those will cost around $200. There is also a double CPU option by using 2678 v3 CPU's again with DDR3's on Huananzhi X99-T8D mainboard. That mainboard is a bit pricey right now $210, but gives roughly the same performance of Z9PE-D8 WS with Xeon 2696 v2 CPU's.

Asus Z9PE-D8 WS ($600) + 2 x E5-2696 v2 $ (2 x 130) = $860
Jingsha X79Dual S8 ($155) + 2 x E5-2696 v2 $ (2 x 130) = $415 *
Huananzhi X99-T8D ($210) + 2 x 2678 v3 (2 x $97.5) = $405 *
Huananzhi X99-T8 ($105) + 1 x 2678 v3 ($97.5) = $202.5 **

* lower than half of the price of the above configuration with same performance. (I assume you already have 2 to 8 pieces of DDR3 Rams.)
** lower than quad the price of the above configuration with half the performance. (I assume you already have 1 to 8 pieces of DDR3 Rams.)

Note: Quite later after I wrote down prices, the shipping rates increased about 3 dollars to 26 dollars!

 

[Peter Lindgren]

@karakarga I have tried the 2696v2 and it had great multicore performance but it hit the TDP roof very quickly when trying to overclock. I think I got it to 3.1Ghz all core boost. I also had the 2680v2 which was great. 3.5Ghz all core boost and still under 115w. My son is using the 2696v2 in a HP Z420 for gaming Roblox now

The 2690v2 would be interesting to try since it should hit 3.7Ghz all core boost.

My 1680v2 hits about 180w but that is no problem for my Kraken X61. Intels coming 10-series CPU seems to hit 180w easily when overclocking. 22nm still rocks! Most games sadly still prefer less cores and higher frequencies.

 

[Zyll Goliat]

@karakarga I have tried the 2696v2 and it had great multicore performance but it hit the TDP roof very quickly when trying to overclock. I think I got it to 3.1Ghz all core boost. I also had the 2680v2 which was great. 3.5Ghz all core boost and still under 115w. My son is using the 2696v2 in a HP Z420 for gaming Roblox now

The 2690v2 would be interesting to try since it should hit 3.7Ghz all core boost.

My 1680v2 hits about 180w but that is no problem for my Kraken X61. Intels coming 10-series CPU seems to hit 180w easily when overclocking. 22nm still rocks! Most games sadly still prefer less cores and higher frequencies.

Hmmm.....Currently I have 2650 V2(8c/16t) and I managed to OC this sample via bclk(113) to the 3.4Ghz All cores + boost 3,85Ghz......I was seriously thinking about 2697 V2 or maybe 2696 V2 but I was hoping that with those CPU's I could reach at least 3.3-3.5Ghz on all cores now you get me thinking by saying that your sample did not go above 3.1Ghz....What motherboard are you using?

 

[karakarga]

@Zyll Goliath, @Peter Lindgren

I did not overclock my CPU's. All core default speed is 3100 MHz. In my case, those two heats a lot together. I generally use RipBot for video re-composing. They reached 37 frames per second from original 25 frame per second lately up ripping from 1024 x 768 to 1920 x 1080. I prefer not to overclock. They have Scythe Big Shuriken 2B coolers, with 120 x 38mm SilenX iXtrema Pro (IXP-76-18) fans.

List of Intel Xeon processors (Ivy Bridge-based) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

2697 v2's all core turbo speed is 3000 MHz but, 2696 v2's all core turbo speed is 3100 MHz.

3100 x 12 = 37200 (2696 v2 all core turbo total with 120 Watt heat consumption) --> 37200 / 33000 = 1.1272.... times faster, excluding extra cache.
3300 x 10 = 33000 (2690 v2 all core turbo total with 130 Watt heat consumption)

Peter Lindgren said " I think 2690v2 is the best CPU if you want more than 8 cores. Good multi core and single core performance. "

I am afraid, "No" by means of multi core performance but by means of single core, (3600 MHz versus 3500 MHz) only 100 MHz 2690 v2 hits higher.

But, those are default values. (No overclock) Good luck....

 

[Peter Lindgren]

I am using Asus P9X79. I had no problem reaching 113Mhz FSB with 2680v2 but 2696v2 needed more voltage and TDP went up and the CPU clocked down. 2697v2 has higher TDP and will go higher. Linus Techtips made a video of it reaching 113Mhz FSB.

I think 2690v2 is the best CPU if you want more than 8 cores. Good multi core and single core performance.

 

[dorsetknob]

I am using Asus P9X79.

mine is a P9X79 pro and i will be fitting a Xeon E5 2690 ( actually replacing a I7 4820 K ) Water cooled of Course

ebay purchace only £55

 

[drizzler]

Hello, i moved from x58 to x79. I got a Rampage IV Formula for cheap and fast ram from my x58 system i went for it and put a 1680v2 into the board.

After digging arround in the internet and starting doing some overclocking with the system i have 2 questions that somewhat of interesting for my way to go with the overlock :

1. the ram divider speed bug at 24 divider still exists and there is no real workaround with 100 strap and 24 divider (setting this every time after coldboot kinda sucks)?
2. i can use the 125 strap or higher but i will lose my idle voltages with this?

thank you very much.

 

[dalekdukesboy]

Hello, i moved from x58 to x79. I got a Rampage IV Formula for cheap and fast ram from my x58 system i went for it and put a 1680v2 into the board.

After digging arround in the internet and starting doing some overclocking with the system i have 2 questions that somewhat of interesting for my way to go with the overlock :

1. the ram divider speed bug at 24 divider still exists and there is no real workaround with 100 strap and 24 divider (setting this every time after coldboot kinda sucks)?
2. i can use the 125 strap or higher but i will lose my idle voltages with this?

thank you very much.
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Welcome to the thread, I'm glad to see people reawakening on here and few new guys coming aboard. Yes that ram divider speed issue I think is only with IVY because my 3930k is at 100 divider and works fine, however my 1680 did have the issue and I just used the 125 strap I tried for higher but never got it to post above 125 strap truthfully. I admit I'm not sure what you mean by losing your idle voltages?

 

[drizzler]

Voltage is not dropping while idling (with offset vcore and powersaving stuff).

 

[dalekdukesboy]

Voltage is not dropping while idling (with offset vcore and powersaving stuff).

Ah Ok I thought that is what you meant but wasn't sure with how you stated it. I admit I'm not much help there, all my energy conservation is throughout my house with LED bulbs etc and my PC I said screw power consumption especially since I don't leave it on 24/7 so hopefully someone else has better advice because one of first things I do is shut all the power saving stuff off and I also don't use overset voltage option myself.

 

[dalekdukesboy]

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I have a 1680 on the way hoping I get it and install it on Monday/ Tuesday!

Not a bad price but coulda got few for 15 bucks or so cheaper but this one wasn't just one of many cpu's they had and you get whatever they pick with who knows what steppings etc....This one intrigued me because one I have that's dead and every other one I've seen is a B batch # with lower #'s whereas this is a C batch so I chose it to get something different and see how it OC's in comparison to the B stepping I had and that appear to be more common.

 

[Peter Lindgren]

Nice! Please post when you have tested to OC it.

I must say that the Intel 750 SSD is one of the best buys I have done. They seem to go cheap now so keep your eyes open.

 

[dalekdukesboy]

It has arrived...about to pop out my 3930k and put the 1680 back where it belongs .

wow

 

[Zyll Goliat]

It has arrived...about to pop out my 3930k and put the 1680 back where it belongs .

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wow

4,7Ghz just like that........seems like you hit good piece of silicon!!!!

 

[dalekdukesboy]

4,7Ghz just like that........seems like you hit good piece of silicon!!!!

Yes, and if you look closely, the 2nd run was 4.75 ghz lol, far beyond what the last 1680 I had would ever do stable, and with way less voltage....no BSOD's or windows saying it shut down due to errors etc, which I got a lot with last CPU which may have been indicator it wasn't in greatest shape even when I received it.

Only problem I have is when I use 10 gigs of memory and long stress tests it eventually clocks down for only a couple seconds at a time but it does, and all safety features etc are off so I have a feeling the VRM's are toasty especially when the stress test is running and it's either the mobo and/or the CPU clocking down just to keep the temps down, I touched VRM's at top of board even after test was done they still were pretty damn hot, but I'd expect that at the level I'm running it at, so I'm going to have to get more fans on them because I'm watercooled but have minimal fans on the board and that's not the greatest combination to say the least.

Also I did have a "throw up my hands moment" late last night when I went to listen to music/play a game and audio didn't work lol, weirder yet if you hit the "test" button in the Realtek audio software the speakers worked and made noise. Lameass, but it's happened before. So I just downloaded the drivers, reinstalled this morning and I got sound, goofy, but sometimes you swap a processor etc and silly stuff like that happens I guess, just wish it didn't lol.

 

[bobbybluz]

I may be lucky. I have two 1680 V2 rigs that are identical in the main hardware and both do 4.7GHz at default settings in Sabertooth X79's. I've been too busy with other things recently to fully tweak the second one yet. The first one sees daily use for A/V production. The second is getting a pair of the 252cfm 120 x 38mm Delta fans to keep the air inside circulating properly.

 

[dalekdukesboy]

I may be lucky. I have two 1680 V2 rigs that are identical in the main hardware and both do 4.7GHz at default settings in Sabertooth X79's. I've been too busy with other things recently to fully tweak the second one yet. The first one sees daily use for A/V production. The second is getting a pair of the 252cfm 120 x 38mm Delta fans to keep the air inside circulating properly.

Wow....those are monster fans, hope you don't sit too near to it because that will be loud as hell, also have you stress tested them for stability? I know first one used for A/V daily is essentially stress tested if it's doing that with no errors it's fine, also what are your "default" settings? I'm curious what voltages you have to keep them stable at 4.7 and also if you have the memory clocked fairly high.

 

[johnspack]

Dam, 4.7. I'm too ocd to go past 1.35v. Never really tried 1.4v+, but sure would like to see those speeds. Wonder if my old Noctua could do it.....

 

[dalekdukesboy]

4.75 ghz linx stable using 10 gigs of 16 gigs of memory. Excellent results, changed memory timings and few other voltages etc low as I could and it appears 250 watts is max for this processor so if you're over that too long that is when it clocks down every so often to keep TDP within the specified limits. NO clocking down on this run literally was bouncing off of 250 near end of run but basically stayed below so working beautifully...I'm glad I bought this particular chip noting the newer batch #'s and a C in # versus B in most others I've seen it obviously makes a difference. I'm using less voltage than old 1680 needed for 4.65+ to get 4.75 stable lol. This is going to be a fun chip to play around with maybe get some suicide screen shots at really high mhz etc.

 

[bobbybluz]

One of my X79's has 64GB G.Skill Ripjaws IV 1866 at XMP settings with 1.65 volts, the other with 64GB Corsair Dominator Platinum 2166 at 1.65 volts, CPU's at 1.4 core volts, Corsair H105 w/4 Silverstone FM121's in push/pull at full speed (110cfm each) and the radiators mounted externally. Cooling isn't an issue but I don't pump more voltage into them due to concerns about core degradation. I've crippled a few CPU's in the past and want these to last as long as possible.

 

[dalekdukesboy]

One of my X79's has 64GB G.Skill Ripjaws IV 1866 at XMP settings with 1.65 volts, the other with 64GB Corsair Dominator Platinum 2166 at 1.65 volts, CPU's at 1.4 core volts, Corsair H105 w/4 Silverstone FM121's in push/pull at full speed (110cfm each) and the radiators mounted externally. Cooling isn't an issue but I don't pump more voltage into them due to concerns about core degradation. I've crippled a few CPU's in the past and want these to last as long as possible.

Nice setup. Yeah I have 16 gigs of memory @ 2400 or 2666 or somewhere inbetween depending on where I'm testing it out haven't settled on best settings yet. I may go for memory speeds more like yours and try to trim timings down to get similar results but probably significantly less strain on the memory controller and less heat which is my main enemy atm.

 

[bobbybluz]

Nice setup. Yeah I have 16 gigs of memory @ 2400 or 2666 or somewhere inbetween depending on where I'm testing it out haven't settled on best settings yet. I may go for memory speeds more like yours and try to trim timings down to get similar results but probably significantly less strain on the memory controller and less heat which is my main enemy atm.

I used to have long telephone conversations with The RAM Guy at Corsair. He told me several years ago the X79 memory controllers were the weak spot in the system. His advice when running large amounts of RAM like I usually do is to increase the voltage to 1.65 volts for DDR3. He said that eases the strain on the controller. So far, so good on that advice.

I began experimenting with case cooling 20+ years ago (and carved up countless cases with the Dremel and plasma cutter) and am a firm believer in the better airflow is the longer things last, especially when overclocking. My favorite cases are still the Corsair Carbide 500R series because of their great design and lack of need to do any cutting for proper fan placement.