Why is it so hard to find a monitor like this?

[CrAsHnBuRnXp]

What issues are those? The one I spent a few minutes with at Computex seemed to work just fine.

Of course the one at Computex is going to work fine. They arent going to want to show off a monitor with QC issues.

Reading some reviews on amazon, a lot of ppl are saying they have dead pixels out of the box. Even on replacements. I cant remember if this one was on amazon or not, but I read some guy bought a total of 4 of these monitors all with the same issue. Couple people were also talking about the fan in the monitor being too loud/noisy.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

The website I saw this on said it retailed on Amazon for $1349.99

I think retail for that is $1099 if it's listed for more than that pretty sure they're just price gouging

ASUS ROG Strix XG438Q 43" 3840 x 2160 4K Resolution 120Hz 3xHDMI DisplayPort FreeSync Flicker Free HDR 600 Remote Control Built-in Speakers Backlit LED Gaming Monitor - Newegg.com

Buy ASUS ROG Strix XG438Q 43" 3840 x 2160 4K Resolution 120Hz 3xHDMI DisplayPort FreeSync Flicker Free HDR 600 Remote Control Built-in Speakers Backlit LED Gaming Monitor with fast shipping and top-rated customer service. Once you know, you Newegg!

www.newegg.com

Seems like it performs poorly.

 

[CrAsHnBuRnXp]

I think retail for that is $1099 if it's listed for more than that pretty sure they're just price gouging

ASUS ROG Strix XG438Q 43" 3840 x 2160 4K Resolution 120Hz 3xHDMI DisplayPort FreeSync Flicker Free HDR 600 Remote Control Built-in Speakers Backlit LED Gaming Monitor - Newegg.com

Buy ASUS ROG Strix XG438Q 43" 3840 x 2160 4K Resolution 120Hz 3xHDMI DisplayPort FreeSync Flicker Free HDR 600 Remote Control Built-in Speakers Backlit LED Gaming Monitor with fast shipping and top-rated customer service. Once you know, you Newegg!

www.newegg.com

Prices tend to go up on amazon when their stock gets closer to 0.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

Prices tend to go up on amazon when their stock gets closer to 0.

They also tend to have a ton of third party sellers that jack up the price but still offer prime shipping.

 

[TheLostSwede]

Of course the one at Computex is going to work fine. They arent going to want to show off a monitor with QC issues.

Reading some reviews on amazon, a lot of ppl are saying they have dead pixels out of the box. Even on replacements. I cant remember if this one was on amazon or not, but I read some guy bought a total of 4 of these monitors all with the same issue. Couple people were also talking about the fan in the monitor being too loud/noisy.

FYI, this is a downside with 4K displays, even when you buy top of the range displays.
I'm on the third panel for this display, as Asus has insisted on swapping out the panel each time (although both instances have been their fault).
The original panel had one dead pixel and two stuck pixels. The internal power board died, Asus screwed up when they replaced that and got a bunch of dust behind the panel, so they had to swap it out. Second panel had two dead pixels. After a few months, I had severe ghosting issues with the panel, so they replaced it, again. Current panel has one semi-stuck pixel, right in the middle. On dark colours, it's teal, but on light colours, it's not visible. It's annoying as hell when you're watching movies full screen, but most of the time I don't notice it.
Maybe Asus' ROG monitor simply aren't up to snuff, but a lot of people seem to be buying them. Mine was bought second hand from a friend that was moving, as there's no way I would've paid the full price for it.

I can speak for the new G-Sync Ultimate displays, as apparently Nvidia decided it was too expensive to make another silicon implementation of G-Sync, so they went with an FPGA. If they allow their partners to make a custom cooling solution or not, I don't know, but it seems stupid to put a loud, noisy fan inside a monitor.
I also have no idea if the one at Computex was noisy or not, since it's really noisy at show floors...

 

[CrAsHnBuRnXp]

FYI, this is a downside with 4K displays, even when you buy top of the range displays

For the $1300+ price tag, I expect my shit to work flawlessly.

 

[TheLostSwede]

For the $1300+ price tag, I expect my shit to work flawlessly.

I'm sorry, but that's not how LCD panels work. There are flaws in the manufacturing process and as such, there's always a chance of a dead or stuck pixel.
Go read the warranty agreement, very few companies guarantee zero faulty pixels. Normally it's zero dead pixels within the first three months, with no more than three stuck pixels within a certain distance from each other.
If you want no chance of any pixel issues, you're going to have to pay 2-3x that, at least.
What you expect or not, has nothing to do with reality I'm afraid.

 

[CrAsHnBuRnXp]

I'm sorry, but that's not how LCD panels work. There are flaws in the manufacturing process and as such, there's always a chance of a dead or stuck pixel.

Why shouldnt it? If Im slapping $1k+ on a monitor, I expect it to last at least a couple of years and work flawlessly out of the box. We expect it of CPUs and to a lesser extent, GPU's so why not monitors? They're expensive enough. Im paying a premium. When was the last time you bought a brand new CPU and it was DOA out of the box? What you said is like getting a CPU and intel or AMD forgot to put the IHS on top of the die.

 

[TheLostSwede]

Why shouldnt it? If Im slapping $1k+ on a monitor, I expect it to last at least a couple of years and work flawlessly out of the box. We expect it of CPUs and to a lesser extent, GPU's so why not monitors? They're expensive enough. Im paying a premium. When was the last time you bought a brand new CPU and it was DOA out of the box? What you said is like getting a CPU and intel or AMD forgot to put the IHS on top of the die.

Because you're comparing Apples and Courgettes at this point.
The way LCD panels are manufactured, means that there's a much higher chance of flaws and the more pixels you cram into a panel, the higher the chance.
Seriously, go read the pixel warranty from whatever manufacturer you're looking at buying a screen from and you'll see that they don't guarantee flawless displays.
You're going to have to lower your expectations, or you're going to be disappointed.
Here's Asus' policy. They allow up to five dead pixels on all their SKUs. The better SKUs aren't allowed any stuck pixels for the first year, unless you go with their PA monitors.

ASUSTeK Computer Inc. -Support- Warranty - VE278Q

Warranty, VE278Q, LCD Monitors, VE Series

www.asus.com

 

[CrAsHnBuRnXp]

You're going to have to lower your expectations, or you're going to be disappointed.

Lowering my expectations makes me disappointed. They need to do better QC before sending the monitors out then.

 

[TheLostSwede]

Lowering my expectations makes me disappointed. They need to do better QC before sending the monitors out then.

It's not about QC, it's actually an ISO standard that the panel and display makers have agreed on, as otherwise there would simply be too many "bad" panels.
Asus' policy is quite generous compared to some companies.
Here's Dell's policy.

Dell Display Pixel Guidelines | Dell US

I doubt you'll be buying any monitors from Dell having seen their policy.

 

[FordGT90Concept]

FYI, 4K monitors at 144 Hz require DP 1.4 + DSC. DP 1.4 only supplies enough bandwidth for 4K 120 Hz so you'd need two DP cables if not using DSC.

The monitor I know about sounds exactly what you're looking for so I'll try to remember to reply to this thread again when it launches. I have no idea what it will cost.

NX-EDG274k — nixeus

www.nixeus.com

Comparison, bolded what is under requested:

What You Want	What It Has
>27in	27
IPS	IPS
DP 1.4 & HDMI 2.1	2 x DP 1.4 w/ DSC & 2 x HDMI 2.0
100hz Refresh or greater	48-144 Hz via DP & 60 Hz via HDMI
Bezel-less	You decide:
Full height, tilt, pivot functionality	"Premium Stand: Support for Height Adjustable, Pivot, Swivel and Tilt."
VESA mountable	100 mm x 100 mm
Gsync compatible	"Adaptive-Sync technology for support with Nvidia G-Sync with the latest Nvidia G-Sync compatible drivers (on DisplayPort input)."
Around 1ms response time	"4ms (Gray to Gray), 1ms (Photon to Render Latency)"

...first time in a decade I've been tempted to buy a monitor...

They'll probably announce the date and price at CES (Jan 7-10).

 

[steen]

FYI, this is a downside with 4K displays, even when you buy top of the range displays.

I've been lucky with 4x LG 32" 4k60 displays, 2xIPS(LG panels) & 2xVA(Innolux panels). No dead/stuck sub/pixels on any. Having a defect in the screen center is a PITA. Last monitor I had with defective pixels was a circa 2007 24" Acer 1920x1200 on the bottom left handily in the task bar... Various Dell, Samsung, Benq in the interrim have all been fine.

 

[CrAsHnBuRnXp]

Asus announced a new 32" 4K monitor that seems very promising. It's IPS. As of right now, im eyeing this.

 

[FordGT90Concept]

Don't be surprised if that monitor is priced around $3500; mass production of the panel that monitor uses doesn't begin until Q2 2020 at the earliest. The Nixeus will be much, much less (but no HDR) and available sooner.

 

[CrAsHnBuRnXp]

Don't be surprised if that monitor is priced around $3500; mass production of the panel that monitor uses doesn't begin until Q2 2020 at the earliest. The Nixeus will be much, much less (but no HDR) and available sooner.

Go fuckin figure. That is just my luck.

 

[Chomiq]

Q2 2020, yeah right. Remember the 4K 144Hz story?

 

[FordGT90Concept]

Turns out I was totally wrong on the price:
$850

Nixeus EDG 27” IPS 3840 x 2160 AMD FreeSync™ Premium Certified 144Hz Ultra HD Gaming Monitor — nixeus

Main Features 27″ Gaming Grade IPS Type (AHVA) Panel LED Backlight Display 3840 x 2160 Ultra HD Resolution 144Hz Native, AMD Radeon FreeSync™ Premium Certified Range for 48Hz – 144Hz 4ms Response Time 3 Years Limited Manufacturer Warranty Specifications Screen Size: 27 inche

www.nixeus.com

 

[mtcn77]

What I need/want in a monitor are:

• 3440x1440
• VA
• 100hz Refresh or greater
• Bezel-less
• Gsync compatible
• Around 1ms response time

You need to look at none other than 35z. Samsung also makes these gigantic screens, but not of similar horizontal resolution.

 

[JustAnEngineer]

I can tell you that 4K on 32" still yields some fairly small text and icons if you don't use scaling or sit close to the screen. I'll be willing to go to a bigger size when that perfect 4K gaming monitor reaches the market. I do, however, agree with the criteria of 3840x2160 resolution, 100+ Hz refresh, Freesync with LFC and an IPS or VA panel. If you see the "Freesync Premium" badge on a new monitor or television, it has 120+ Hz and LFC.

 

[Hotobu]

There's the LG CX 48", but I'm not sure what your size cutoff is.

 

[CrAsHnBuRnXp]

LG CX 48

Thats a TV. I dont want a TV as a computer monitor.

 

[Hotobu]

Thats a TV. I dont want a TV as a computer monitor.

Why? It checks every one of your boxes except for adjustable height, but after a certain size/weight that will no longer be a feature. Doesn't have display port though, but all of its inputs are HDMI 2.1

 

[CrAsHnBuRnXp]

Why? It checks every one of your boxes except for adjustable height, but after a certain size/weight that will no longer be a feature. Doesn't have display port though, but all of its inputs are HDMI 2.1

For one, it's too big. And last time I saw a tv used as a computer monitor, the text was next to impossible to read.

 

[Hotobu]

For one, it's too big. And last time I saw a tv used as a computer monitor, the text was next to impossible to read.

If it's too big then ok, but ugly text on televisions used to be a thing years ago, and that's no longer universally true. I'm typing this on a CX which replaced the first model year LG OLED and the text is crisp.