Ok. So now who will pay 100% more for only 15-20% performance?
Nobody because it won't be 100% more expensive as the 700 price of 3080 won't be be true and it will be much more expensive
a) People who do rendering or other workstation apps and don't want to buld 2 ststems.
b) Peeps with Wheaties Box Syndrome .... in the Olympics, the difference between Gold and Silver is often fractions of a second. The Gold winner gets their pic on the Wheaties box and millions in endorsements. The silver winner goes home and takes a job selling cars or insurance.
c) The same peeps who bought a 24 core threadripper for a gaming box cause someone told them more cores is better.
I'm just going to say it. Although unlikely I hope AMD whoops Nvidias behind with something of equal/marginally less measure at a far more pleasant asking price. The Green team needs to be taught a lesson. An average of 15% perf advantage at 4K over a 3080 and a $1500-$1700 asking price is bonkers. No one should suggest ONLY "workstation use" as Nvidia is also marketing the card as a GAMER too. If I had a million i wouln't buy one - PERIOD!
The fact remains ... it is a very capable workstation card regardless of the label one puts on it. People bought a Titan when they needed a box to do rendering thereby necessitating a Quadro ... but they also wanted to enjoy gaming for which the Quadro was ill suited. The Titan offered a great compromise for far less cost than building two systems. People who bought the Titan for this reason will still buy the 3090 which is 3 to 13 times faster in rendering.
But there's always the subset of folks who weigh Return on Investment by factors other than performance gained versus cash invested. For some, the return is perceived increased social standing that comes with having the fastest or being the first to have it. These are the folks standing on lines to buy the new phone ... because some review said it's faster ... I don't talk that fast.
The dude in marketing who came up with the idea of dropping the Titan moniker and using 3090 should get a fat bonus .... the subset of gamers, with money to burn, will jump at this.
Who's suggesting "workstation use"? Sure you can run AutoCAD on these, but they don't run on the same drivers as Quadro cards. There's no mention of the term on the official product page either.
Jensen for one in the release presentation. But anyone who had had a Titan will want a 3090 ... I own an engineering consulting firm, build all or our PCs and have been doing so for this office and others for almost 30 years. The fact is AutoCAD runs great on GTX / RTX ... has always been the better option .... 2D / 3D AutoCAD has consistently performed better or equal to the most expensive Quadro cards allowing the realization of huge cost savings while costing up to $4000. The area where quadro excels is in rendering which makes it well suited for other AuotoDesk products like Solid Works, some AutoDesk applications will not even run on GTX / RTX. An architectural / engineering office will rarely ever be called upon to create a rendering of their 2D / 3D CAD drawings .... most, when needed send it out. Those that do might have one (1) rendering box for every 10 or 20 AutoCAD boxes. Those that need to render, will want the 3090 because it is up to 13 times faster than the 3080.
And one for Wizzard .....
... " the card introduces the Tri Frozr 2 cooling solution with many segment-first features." ... any info on what these segment first features might be ?
Yes MSI introduced "Zero Frozr " (passive cooling) in 2008 and then "Hybrid Frozr, " (independent fan contro) in 2014 with the 9xx series .... but looking at the MSI site, didn't see anything I could call a "segment 1st feature";
Torx Fan 4.0 - the 4.0 kinda suggests there's nothing new here ... but closer inspection reveals that each pair of fan blades has an out ring which, theoretically at least, should reduce blowby. Does it work ? Whose gonna test ? No one wanna cut off the ring and do a before and after ?
Core Pipe- details heat pipe design improvements ... again nothing to be excited about but, again theoretically, the dull contact of rectangular pipes should be more efficient than circular / ovoid shaped one with 1 side flattened. And as much as I prefer MSI's approach to the heat / noise balance (MSI is 9 dbA quieter / Asus is 9C cooler) ... would like to see with both at max load and the fan curve tuned to the same dbA.
Airflow Control - Yeah, good idea to optimize but that's hardly new. From the review pics and even MSI site, hard to see or understand why curvey fin edges improve cooling.
Love the included support bracket but would rather see it attached to the shroud frame or metal backplate
