Previously working GPU not working with new motherboard

INSTG8R · Oct 11, 2020

Dammit I didn’t exactly know what they were pushing there. I definitely recommend the Beta Bios and while vague at least gets you the latest possible fixes available regardless if the card issue isn’t fixed by it by some miracle.

Mr.Scott · Oct 11, 2020

If you set to 'legacy boot or both' in the bios. It should see the card. If it doesn't, that board is shot.

INSTG8R · Oct 11, 2020

Mr.Scott said:
If you set to 'legacy boot or both' in the bios. It should see the card. If it doesn't, that board is shot.

Yeah apparently that didn’t work I scanned the manual looking for the setting hoping it would be the solution

rtwjunkie · Oct 11, 2020

Fancypantaloons said:
I do not know if my graphics card is Legacy or UEFI. This is the first time I heard of UEFI, my previous motherboard had a "normal" BIOS, I guess that's Legacy. So I THINK my card is Legacy. If the support for it is not working properly maybe I just need to get a newer graphics card that supports UEFI.

I think you’re on to something there. The thing is, usially it is the other way around, where the card is uefi and a board is legacy. What year did your card get released?

EDIT: just checked and it is Feb 2014, so after the motherboard. This would be an easy fix if you were trying to operate in legacy BIOS and switch to UEFI BIOS, but it looks like you’ve already ruled that out, since it has been in UEFI the whole time.

INSTG8R · Oct 11, 2020

Well Legacy should eliminate any UEFI conflict. I had to do that to run my modified BIOS Fury with unlocked shaders despite it just being a modified version of my original BIOS.

Fancypantaloons · Oct 11, 2020

Well my previous motherboard is Asus M4A88T-M/USB3, where my graphics card worked perfectly. I'm not sure if its BIOS is Legacy or UEFI, so I don't know what is my card either, if Legacy or UEFI.

But anyway, I set up every setting naming "PCI" to Legacy and still nothing. There are some options regarding boot, but I guess those are for the disks, so I don't know if I should play with that, even if it says Legacy or UEFI, maybe you guys know if that is related to my problem somehow.

I'm just shooting at the dark at this point. Maybe it's a lost case, maybe someone in 10 years view this thread and can find the solution in our honor

INSTG8R · Oct 11, 2020

Yeah I as considering those legacy boot settings as well. The board far predates Secure boot an UEFI storage so at this point this is MK1 UEFI anything at this point that c@n be made legacy I’d do it. Does the card even spin up I never even asked the basic question “is it even trying to boot”

Fancypantaloons · Oct 11, 2020

INSTG8R said:
Yeah I as considering those legacy boot settings as well. The board far predates Secure boot an UEFI storage so at this point this is MK1 UEFI anything at this point that c@n be made legacy I’d do it. Does the card even spin up I never even asked the basic question “is it even trying to boot”

I will start testing those settings then. And yes, the card spins up and everything.

EDIT:

Alright if I set the Boot mode to Legacy Only, a message will appear saying that there is no OS installed in my SSD. I didn't try UEFI Only so I just left it as default, UEFI & Legacy.

INSTG8R · Oct 11, 2020

Fancypantaloons said:
I will start testing those settings then. And yes, the card spins up and everything.

EDIT:

Alright if I set the Boot mode to Legacy Only, a message will appear saying that there is no OS installed in my SSD. I didn't try UEFI Only so I just left it as default, UEFI & Legacy.

Well the OS is already bound so that’s out anyway. I just recently switched back to Gigabyte their UEFI still sucks IMO....

rtwjunkie · Oct 11, 2020

Fancypantaloons said:
I will start testing those settings then. And yes, the card spins up and everything.

EDIT:

Alright if I set the Boot mode to Legacy Only, a message will appear saying that there is no OS installed in my SSD. I didn't try UEFI Only so I just left it as default, UEFI & Legacy.

Yeah, the only way around that would be to reformat the SSD and reinstall in Legacy mode. Like @INSTG8R said, once it's attached to UEFI, there is no switching with that install.

Prime2515102 · Oct 11, 2020

Fancypantaloons said:
Alright if I set the Boot mode to Legacy Only, a message will appear saying that there is no OS installed in my SSD. I didn't try UEFI Only so I just left it as default, UEFI & Legacy.

Yeah, you would need to reinstall Windows after setting it to legacy only.

Considering that when the card is installed it's stopping with an A0 code (IDE initialization [this is a hard drive interface]) I would give it a go myself, but it still might not help.

Edit: Or, if you're not using any IDE drives (hard drives or CD/DVD/Blu-ray drives) you could try disabling the IDE controller first.

Edit #2: Scratch that... that board doesn't have an IDE interface. Not sure why it would have that code at all...

rtwjunkie · Oct 11, 2020

I thought you said no, earlier, but is there any GPU you could borrow to see if it will work on that system? If it does, it might be worth considering a new GPU.

Fancypantaloons · Oct 11, 2020

rtwjunkie said:
Yeah, the only way around that would be to reformat the SSD and reinstall in Legacy mode. Like @INSTG8R said, once it's attached to UEFI, there is no switching with that install.

So, if I choose that option (Legacy only), would it still recognize my USB to reinstall Windows? I mean, that's the way to install Windows in Legacy mode, right? Or is there another way)

Prime2515102 said:
Yeah, you would need to reinstall Windows after setting it to legacy only.

Considering that when the card is installed it's stopping with an A0 code (IDE initialization [this is a hard drive interface]) I would give it a go myself, but it still might not help.

Edit: Or, if you're not using any IDE drives (hard drives or CD/DVD/Blu-ray drives) you could try disabling the IDE controller first.

I'm using IDE drives just because I got files in them. I will try that Windows thing!

rtwjunkie said:
I thought you said no, earlier, but is there any GPU you could borrow to see if it will work on that system? If it does, it might be worth considering a new GPU.

Yeah I got two other graphics cards that were previously working too, I tried them here and same results. I would like to try a graphics card that supports UEFI if mine doesn't, but I will try some things before.

Thanks guys! I will try that.

INSTG8R · Oct 11, 2020

rtwjunkie said:
I thought you said no, earlier, but is there any GPU you could borrow to see if it will work on that system? If it does, it might be worth considering a new GPU.

I wonder if that card has the dual BIOS where one was Legacy they did that for quite awhile during the transition years. Need to run GPUZ on both BIOS if it has them.

Mr.Scott · Oct 11, 2020

Not a card issue. That board fully supports the card.

https://www.pc-specs.com/gpu/AMD/R-200_Series/Radeon_R7_250X/2038/Compatible_Motherboards

Face the obvious. You've tried 3 working cards in that board and none of them are recognized. Board is damaged, plain and simple.
The fix is, get another board.
Don't need three pages of posts to figure that out.
Sorry for my bluntness.

INSTG8R · Oct 11, 2020

Mr.Scott said:
Not a card issue. That board fully supports the card.

https://www.pc-specs.com/gpu/AMD/R-200_Series/Radeon_R7_250X/2038/Compatible_Motherboards
Face the obvious. You've tried 3 working cards in that board and none of them are recognized. Board is damaged, plain and simple.
The fix is, get another board.
Don't need three pages of posts to figure that out.
Sorry for my bluntness.

Fair point no card has worked and at this point we’ve covered all the bases some multiple times

Zach_01 · Oct 11, 2020

As I was going through the thread reading all posts, I was going to ask OP about the storage conditions of that board by his friend. Was it on some box or something or it was just arround... Probably the board PCI-E slot or slots are dead as 3 GPU cards doing the same is obvious.

Just for the heck of it I would closely inspect that board for any missing components, capacitors and such on both sides.

Fancypantaloons · Oct 11, 2020

Yes, you are right. There is no other explanation. I need another motherboard.

I just want to add a interesting thing that happened with the last thing I tried, just for fun:

I set the Boot mode to Legacy, I configured everything correctly to reinstall windows with my USB drive that I used before. But, to my surprise, the BIOS didn't give a damn and ignored all my boot options. It booted my previous drive with my old Windows in it, with all my files and stuff. The funny thing is that my graphics card now appears in the Device Manager, but I think that's just a side-effect because after all my R7 drivers are installed in this disk. Of course, still no output.

Now the SSD won't even boot, I guess it's not Legacy compatible. I can access it and all its files, but that's it. I guess I could get it working again setting the Boot mode to UEFI, but that's a story for another bonfire.

Alright guys, thank you very much for everything, I really appreciate the effort. This seems like a nice forum and I would like to stick around, even if I don't know how to fix stuff.

Our road has come to an end. At least now I know where to head off. See you around!

rtwjunkie · Oct 11, 2020

Mr.Scott said:
You've tried 3 working cards in that board and none of them are recognized. Board is damaged, plain and simple.

Good call at this point. I kept missing the other cards thing and putting 2+2 together. Anything else is likely to be a waste of time.

Fancypantaloons said:
Yes, you are right. There is no other explanation. I need another motherboard.

I just want to add a interesting thing that happened with the last thing I tried, just for fun:

I set the Boot mode to Legacy, I configured everything correctly to reinstall windows with my USB drive that I used before. But, to my surprise, the BIOS didn't give a damn and ignored all my boot options. It booted my previous drive with my old Windows in it, with all my files and stuff. The funny thing is that my graphics card now appears in the Device Manager, but I think that's just a side-effect because after all my R7 drivers are installed in this disk. Of course, still no output.

Now the SSD won't even boot, I guess it's not Legacy compatible. I can access it and all its files, but that's it. I guess I could get it working again setting the Boot mode to UEFI, but that's a story for another bonfire.

Alright guys, thank you very much for everything, I really appreciate the effort. This seems like a nice forum and I would like to stick around, even if I don't know how to fix stuff.

Our road has come to an end. At least now I know where to head off. See you around!

We’d love to have you stick around! Thanks for being so patient and trying multiple fixes, as well as being very detailed.

Prime2515102 · Oct 12, 2020

rtwjunkie said:
Good call at this point. I kept missing the other cards thing and putting 2+2 together. Anything else is likely to be a waste of time.

I missed that too... lol

OneMoar · Oct 12, 2020

Board is likely toast probly have a bent pin or two in the socket

Hyderz · Oct 12, 2020

may your next system works flawlessly after this episode

and hopefully a cpu more powerful than i7 2600k

biffzinker · Oct 12, 2020

Hyderz said:
i7 2600k

Hey now, the 2600K is a prefect example of a high performance long lived CPU.

TPU-User777 · Oct 12, 2020

This issue might be related to secure boot. Check in the bios if CSM is enabled. When I had a gigabyte B75m motherboard and tried installing a newer graphics card the pc wouldn't boot until I had CSM enabled in the bios. Here are two links with similar problems, "https://forums.tomshardware.com/threads/disabled-csm-no-post.2791219/", "https://forum.giga-byte.co.uk/index.php?topic=13471.0".

P4-630 · Oct 12, 2020

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