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[unclewebb]

You were doing better before. You are back hitting 100°C.

 

[nguyen]

Yeah I think you have to repaste again, don't try to spread the TIM, just put some big blobs of it on the CPU and GPU, heat them up with hair dryer then mount the heatsink.
Here is my laptop thermals with maximum fan speed, with auto fans (which I use) the CPU and GPU are ~6C warmer

 

[budgetgaming]

Yeah I think you have to repaste again, don't try to spread the TIM, just put some big blobs of it on the CPU and GPU, heat them up with hair dryer then mount the heatsink.
Here is my laptop thermals with maximum fan speed, with auto fans (which I use) the CPU and GPU are ~6C warmer

What game are u playing?

 

[nguyen]

What game are u playing?

Death Stranding

 

[budgetgaming]

Yeah I think you have to repaste again, don't try to spread the TIM, just put some big blobs of it on the CPU and GPU, heat them up with hair dryer then mount the heatsink.
Here is my laptop thermals with maximum fan speed, with auto fans (which I use) the CPU and GPU are ~6C warmer

let me try it again to see how good this thermal paste goes.....I have doubt but I will try it again for the sake of curiosity...hehehe (Learn by doing) I will update soon

 

[nguyen]

let me try it again to see how good this thermal paste goes.....I have doubt but I will try it again for the sake of curiosity...hehehe (Learn by doing) I will update soon

Yeah I think the TF-X paste is the hardest TIM to apply properly so it might take you a few tries. It only took me 1 try but I was extra careful applying it (my laptop is a pain to take apart after all).
Overall I believe if applied properly, the thermal performance would be very close to a freshly applied Kryonaut .

This is how I applied the TF-X on the GPU die, on the CPU I just put a long blob

 

[budgetgaming]

I have not closed it, what dou you think? Is this correct

 

[AOne]

It looks just according instructions. Still I don't like this type of application. If you'd like to experiment, stick a glass or transparent plastic sheet above it and see how the paste spreads. In my opinion it would leave edges uncovered and air gaps in the middle.

 

[nguyen]

Looks good to me, heat them up with hair dryer before you mount the heatsink, it help with the spreadability.

It looks just according instructions. Still I don't like this type of application. If you'd like to experiment, stick a glass or transparent plastic sheet above it and see how the paste spreads. In my opinion it would leave edges uncovered and air gaps in the middle.

I wouldn't do this way either except that this TIM is impossible to spread with the spatula, it would just stick to spatula and not the die surface ~_~

 

[AOne]

I'm using plastic mini "spatula" and all the pastes I've tried adhered pretty good. Mabey this one is too dense, but it doesn't look that way in the pictures. If the surface is cleaned well enough with isopropanol for example (or any other spirit liquid) there should be no problem.

 

[budgetgaming]

This is Playing division 2 a few minitus PL1 &PL2 45watt. Don't know what to do anymore, the temp does not reach 97, but is a little higher then Krynout....

You were doing better before. You are back hitting 100°C.

yes , I change the Thermal paste from Grizzly Krynout to Thermalright TX, a little higher on the temp

This is in COD MW

 

[nguyen]

Yeah seems like the thermal are a few C higher than with Kryonaut.
You can try tighten the screws a bit more right after gaming when the laptop is still warm.
_unscrew the laptop first
_leave the bottom in place
_play COD for a bit
_quit game and shut down immediately
_open the bottom and tighen the screws a bit more.

 

[AOne]

Don't they have springs, which apply the pressure anyway?

 

[nguyen]

Don't they have springs, which apply the pressure anyway?

Yeah but higher mounting pressure is always better, the smaller the gap between the core and heatsink the higher the heat transfer. That's why you can't solely rely on thermal conductivity of TIM to decide which one is better, since TIM with smaller particles allow smaller gap.

 

[budgetgaming]

Higher vicosity is pain in the ass to apply , let me try to warm it up again and thithen the screw..... While i switch the thermalpaste, i did switch the thermalpad on my board, does it effect when not position right?

 

[nguyen]

Higher vicosity is pain in the ass to apply , let me try to warm it up again and thithen the screw..... While i switch the thermalpaste, i did switch the thermalpad on my board, does it effect when not position right?

well thicker thermal pads might have widen the gap between core and heatsink, which I did notice from your picture. Do you have any 0.5mm pads for the memory instead of 1mm ?

 

[AOne]

I would remove pads and use paste instead. My last Asus comes like this from the factory. Yes, it's messier, but you don't risk putting too thick pads, which is a major fault.

 

[budgetgaming]

well thicker thermal pads might have widen the gap between core and heatsink, which I did notice from your picture. Do you have any 0.5mm pads for the memory instead of 1mm ?

well i only replace the pads that have the same thickness with my new pads, the thinnest is 1mm, I did not replace the 2mm pad because i dont have it, and i am afraid that putting the 1 mm pad would not reach. I did change them with Minus 8 pad....

@AOne, yes I have 0,5mm lying around I am scared to use because in the heat sink there is no 0,5mm used. also using thermalpaste would it be safe? there are very small chip that 1/4 size of the cpu which they have the same matirial cooled by pad, and i think they use the 2mm pad to cool it. using pink colour pad just like the battry.

What do you guys think should i change the pad to 0,5mm or using thermal paste? what effect in overall temp for the CPU & GPU?

this is extreme test, using my laptop on the table without elevating it. Playing Dauntless for a while....reminder that my set up is hooking up to my omen monitor and playing with keyboard. std position of my laptop is whit laptop trey and eleveting it with Sitstand. I already thiten it again while is till hot...

 

[nguyen]

well i only replace the pads that have the same thickness with my new pads, the thinnest is 1mm, I did not replace the 2mm pad because i dont have it, and i am afraid that putting the 1 mm pad would not reach. I did change them with Minus 8 pad....

@AOne, yes I have 0,5mm lying around I am scared to use because in the heat sink there is no 0,5mm used. also using thermalpaste would it be safe? there are very small chip that 1/4 size of the cpu which they have the same matirial cooled by pad, and i think they use the 2mm pad to cool it. using pink colour pad just like the battry.

What do you guys think should i change the pad to 0,5mm or using thermal paste? what effect in overall temp for the CPU & GPU?

The small chip is the chipset, barely need cooling at all, so leave to old pad as is.

Can you take a picture of the heatsinks and laptop PCB ?

Well replacing thermal pad with better ones could also explain the higher CPU and GPU temp since more heat are transfered to the heatsink after all. Although with lower VRAM temp, your FPS stability would improve (less FPS dip).

You can play games and check with Afterburner if you have fewer FPS dip, if it does improve FPS stability then all is good

Edit: yeah the CPU is thermal throttling pretty hard when you are playing game there.

 

[budgetgaming]

Should i increse the speedshift just to bring down the temp? Oh One more thing, in the log, middle of reading the power status change, what is that? do you know?

 

[unclewebb]

power status change, what is that?

You usually get these messages when you switch from AC to battery power. I have seen some log files where these messages happen every 5 seconds as the computer tires to keep the battery at a constant 70%.

One random Power Status message is OK.

 

[budgetgaming]

You usually get these messages when you switch from AC to battery power. I have seen some log files where these messages happen every 5 seconds as the computer tires to keep the battery at a constant 70%.

One random Power Status message is OK.

thank you for the explanation..

The small chip is the chipset, barely need cooling at all, so leave to old pad as is.

Can you take a picture of the heatsinks and laptop PCB ?

Well replacing thermal pad with better ones could also explain the higher CPU and GPU temp since more heat are transfered to the heatsink after all. Although with lower VRAM temp, your FPS stability would improve (less FPS dip).

You can play games and check with Afterburner if you have fewer FPS dip, if it does improve FPS stability then all is good

Edit: yeah the CPU is thermal throttling pretty hard when you are playing game there.

You want me to pic while the heatsink attached or I have to remove it?

 

[nguyen]

You want me to pic while the heatsink attached or I have to remove it?

Removed, but probably too late now

 

[budgetgaming]

I think i want to change back to thermal grizzly, i have attached my pc pic for you to advice

Do you know what is this? It has thermalpad but i dont think i have replace the correct thikness, can i stack the thermalpad? The last picture that i uave attached

 

[nguyen]

The last pic is supposedly the missing VRAM modules, since 2060 has 6GB (6 modules of 1GB each), the last 2 memory modules are not populated, there is no need for any thermal pad.

Seems like the TF-X spreaded properly, so yeah I'm sorry the result is not as good as you would expect.

some advice when you repaste, I have drawed the places you need to put on the thermal pads, cut them to size and place the thermal pad over the components themselves and not on the heatsink to prevent mis-alignment
And you can double stack 1mm thermal pads where it's needed, these component generate very little heat anyway.