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[budgetgaming]

The last pic is supposedly the missing VRAM modules, since 2060 has 6GB (6 modules of 1GB each), the last 2 memory modules are not populated, there is no need for any thermal pad.

Seems like the TF-X spreaded properly, so yeah I'm sorry the result is not as good as you would expect.

some advice when you repaste, I have drawed the places you need to put on the thermal pads, cut them to size and place the thermal pad over the components themselves and not on the heatsink to prevent mis-alignment
And you can double stack 1mm thermal pads where it's needed, these component generate very little heat anyway.
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Dont worry worth trying out, i myself like trying out every possible way.... Thank u very much

After repasting with thermal grizzly Krynaout. and also replacing the Thermal pad with Minus 8.....Thermalright was not working well in my laptop so I have atthaced the thermal for discussion. I have found out that PL1 & PL2 putting in 49watt both gives better result and no throtteling. almost in the verge of Prochot but did not happen, yeah i think IF you want to be safer put PL1 & 2 on 45watt.

 

[nguyen]

Seems like your thermal are much better and more stable now, not sure if you bought a bad TF-X paste or not, bad luck I guess .
It's not too rare to find some bad batches of TIM circling the market.

Now just save your log of freshly applied Kryonaut so you can come back to it when needed, time for gaming

 

[budgetgaming]

Seems like your thermal are much better and more stable now, not sure if you bought a bad TF-X paste or not, bad luck I guess .
It's not too rare to find some bad batches of TIM circling the market.

Now just save your log of freshly applied Kryonaut so you can come back to it when needed, time for gaming

That what I post the other day, I took pic of the thermalright, I afarid I got scame got the fake one......that's why I post this in this forum, Maybe I just got bad TIM after all....So to the next project, I am planing to buy new laptop, I fell in love with GE66 SFS model, but still holding on because of the price...what do you think..should i get another brand? any recomendation,

 

[nguyen]

I just looked at some GS66 reviews and they are very positive, what specs are you looking at ?
Just some advices, don't waste money on the top end i9 10980HK or 2080 Super Max-Q, this thin and light laptop is not meant to extract maximum performance outta these chips. Basically the 10980HK is held back by thermal and power limit constraint and the 2080 Super MaxQ is being held back by the underpowered CPU .
My Acer Triton 500 with 10875H + 2070 Super MaxQ pretty much give identical performance to the i9 10980HK + 2080 Super MaxQ in this review

 

[budgetgaming]

In my country the SKU of ge66 is i7 gen 10th + rtx2070 and if you want the 2070 super i comes with i9 gen 10th. All has 32gb ram and 1tb of m.2. I realy looking for laptop has good cooling, my omen 2019 model realy suck at temp. My stable watt is only 49.

 

[nguyen]

How about the MSI GE75 Raider with 10980HK + 2070 Super ? This 17in laptop have much better cooling than the GS66 and have much higher power limit for CPU and GPU (up to 90W for CPU and 115W for GPU)

 

[budgetgaming]

Looking at GE not GS they have diffrent model, ge75? Thick and huge.....

 

[budgetgaming]

Today I was testing with my laptop, I found out that the VR thermal is shown on the limits reason, what is that? is this got something to do with the thermalpads i have change and is not working properly? while i was playing games, I have found out that in the limits reasons there is no thermal, but in the log file it has....

 

[unclewebb]

VR thermal

That indicates that your voltage regulators are running too hot.

I see over 5 minutes of constant thermal throttling in the log file. It only changes when you lower the power limit from 45W to 40W. Instead of thermal throttling, then you get mostly PL1 power limit throttling. Without much better cooling, you will never achieve maximum performance. One thing or another will be overheating or you will end up with power limit throttling.

I have found out that in the limits reasons there is no thermal

Were you using any other monitoring software at the same time? I know HWiNFO will clear throttling information out of the CPU which can interfere with ThrottleStop obtaining accurate throttling information. For best results, exit any other monitoring apps when using Limit Reasons or when logging information with ThrottleStop.

 

[budgetgaming]

That indicates that your voltage regulators are running too hot.

I see over 5 minutes of constant thermal throttling in the log file. It only changes when you lower the power limit from 45W to 40W. Instead of thermal throttling, then you get mostly PL1 power limit throttling. Without much better cooling, you will never achieve maximum performance. One thing or another will be overheating or you will end up with power limit throttling.


Were you using any other monitoring software at the same time? I know HWiNFO will clear throttling information out of the CPU which can interfere with ThrottleStop obtaining accurate throttling information. For best results, exit any other monitoring apps when using Limit Reasons or when logging information with ThrottleStop.

Other monitoring programe i used is the Omen Command center, The rest I have removed it.
I was testing my laptop without any elevating and laptop cooler, so that i can know when i am traveling without those things it wont overheat. I have change the PL1 to 50 and PL2 70, lso What is PPO current limit, should i change them the amount of PL1 and PL2 total?

What makes the VR regulator hots, Is that have something to do changing the thermal pads not i correct thickness?

 

[nguyen]

Other monitoring programe i used is the Omen Command center, The rest I have removed it.
I was testing my laptop without any elevating and laptop cooler, so that i can know when i am traveling without those things it wont overheat. I have change the PL1 to 50 and PL2 70, lso What is PPO current limit, should i change them the amount of PL1 and PL2 total?

What makes the VR regulator hots, Is that have something to do changing the thermal pads not i correct thickness?

Yup, the Voltage regulator are the ones I drawed blue on your laptop internals.
Seems like you need to open it up and check if the thermal pads make proper contact (by checking the indentation on the thermal pads)

 

[unclewebb]

What makes the VR regulator hot

When your CPU runs continuously at 98°C, everything near by, including the voltage regulators, are going to heat up. Hopefully you find a problem with the thermal pads and can correct this.

Set the PP0 Current Limit to a big number. You have enough throttling problems already.

 

[budgetgaming]

When your CPU runs continuously at 98°C, everything near by, including the voltage regulators, are going to heat up. Hopefully you find a problem with the thermal pads and can correct this.

Set the PP0 Current Limit to a big number. You have enough throttling problems already.

I decided to strees test using Furmark and Strees Test the CPU together, Tired off playing games on testing,

This laptop is very bad on Thermal realy, for what I think., Thin but lack of cooling, even PL1 on 45 wats always throtteling while playing games. SO I decided to bring the PL1 40wats and PL2 on 45 wats.

This is the result, my room temperature is 24-25 degree. this test without any external cooling and elevating the laptop. result also not to good. about the VR thermal i don't see it anymore maybe because the setting I used was PL1 50- and PL2 70. may it that cause to heat up quickly.

I don't think the result are good also, always on 95 above.....

Yup, the Voltage regulator are the ones I drawed blue on your laptop internals.
Seems like you need to open it up and check if the thermal pads make proper contact (by checking the indentation on the thermal pads)

I will try to check it again, I need to buy the 2mm thickness just in case it does not conteac with the thermal

 

[AOne]

I will try to check it again, I need to buy the 2mm thickness just in case it does not conteac with the thermal

This way you're risking to leave a gap between CPU/GPU and heatsink. As I said before- try cheap paste for the peripherals like VRAM.

 

[budgetgaming]

This way you're risking to leave a gap between CPU/GPU and heatsink. As I said before- try cheap paste for the peripherals like VRAM.

Sorry i dont quite understand how am I going to do this, some thermal pads uses 2mm smoe are 1mm if i use the thermal paste how will it all touch the heatsink

 

[nguyen]

I decided to strees test using Furmark and Strees Test the CPU together, Tired off playing games on testing,

This laptop is very bad on Thermal realy, for what I think., Thin but lack of cooling, even PL1 on 45 wats always throtteling while playing games. SO I decided to bring the PL1 40wats and PL2 on 45 wats.

This is the result, my room temperature is 24-25 degree. this test without any external cooling and elevating the laptop. result also not to good. about the VR thermal i don't see it anymore maybe because the setting I used was PL1 50- and PL2 70. may it that cause to heat up quickly.

I don't think the result are good also, always on 95 above.....



I will try to check it again, I need to buy the 2mm thickness just in case it does not conteac with the thermal

wow you really like torturing your laptop do you .
The way I see is your laptop cooling is incapable of dissipating all the heat that the CPU and GPU produce, indicated by thermal rising slowly until thermal throttling.
That is the sad reality of thin and light laptop, you have to sacrifice some performance, or deal with very loud fans.

Though CPU hitting 95C is okay for long term, Voltage Regular running up to thermal throttling is not good sign, so yeah have a look at them before the VRM burn out. You can put some thermal paste on top of the current thermal pads too.

 

[budgetgaming]

wow you really like torturing your laptop do you .
The way I see is your laptop cooling is incapable of dissipating all the heat that the CPU and GPU produce, indicated by thermal rising slowly until thermal throttling.
That is the sad reality of thin and light laptop, you have to sacrifice some performance, or deal with very loud fans.

Though CPU hitting 95C is okay for long term, Voltage Regular running up to thermal throttling is not good sign though, so yeah have a look at them before the VRM burn out.

Can I stack thermal pads, Sorry for the stupid question..

 

[AOne]

Sorry i dont quite understand how am I going to do this, some thermal pads uses 2mm smoe are 1mm if i use the thermal paste how will it all touch the heatsink

No pads - paste only. Thick layer of paste, so you're sure it conducts heat from VRAMs to heatsink. Mine is like that from factory.

 

[nguyen]

No pads - paste only. Thick layer of paste, so you're sure it conducts heat from VRAMs to heatsink. Mine is like that from factory.

yeah that depends on the gap size, too big and the thermal paste is useless.
I put some thermal paste on VRAM and they don't make any contact with the heatsink at all. Same with VRM too.

Can I stack thermal pads, Sorry for the stupid question..

Yes you can stack them, make sure you heat up the heatsink with hair dryer and tighten the screws. Hold the screwdriver with your fingers and tighten to a complete stop, in the X order too.

 

[AOne]

Just be careful, not to detach the threaded tiny bushings from the board, cause than you'll find yourself into an adventure. Been there, done that with my previous laptop (2-3 years old at the moment).
The gap between VRAMs and heatsink is approximately 2 mm on my current Asus. I understand your argument, that too much paste would serve as an insulator instead of dissipater, but it's manufactured like that.

 

[budgetgaming]

yeah that depends on the gap size, too big and the thermal paste is useless.
I put some thermal paste on VRAM and they don't make any contact with the heatsink at all. Same with VRM too.



Yes you can stack them, make sure you heat up the heatsink with hair dryer and tighten the screws. Hold the screwdriver with your fingers and tighten to a complete stop, in the X order too.

Hey Nguyen, I have goodnews for you, I finaly did it pasting thermalright, By extra heating the heatsink until it very hot as you told me, Place it and keep heating it until you tighten the screw, now the Temp the same as Krynout well almost. I have attached my temp while idel and TS bench....same as Krynout....

Also the Voltage regulator on the top, I suspect that it did not touch the heat sink, I add another layer which i check that it uses 2mm thick Thermalpad.

 

[nguyen]

good job there , yeah high viscosity paste can create some resistance against tightening the heatsink when it is cold, best to heat it up.

 

[budgetgaming]

I think I know know how to paste better....but undervolting still learning.....

 

[budgetgaming]

Dear all,

I have tried every setting that i know pushing it to the edge from minimum to maximum, Playing AAA titles more then 20 minutes, my laptop is surly will 97 degree especialy with GPU running if I put EPP on 0, I know that higher nuber will slow down the CPU but the temps will not be crazy as 0. I have monitored that while gaming on EPP 0 the speed of CPU are around 3.8-3.4, pushing the EPP to std state which 128 playing AAA titels will put cpu speed 3.0 - 3.1 with 100% CO%, but the temperature is more on stable around 80 not more then 90......I think putting the EPP 0 is not a good choise when playing games in long run, but doing office work maybe be will be mopre fit lowering the EPP numbers....what do you think

 

[budgetgaming]

good job there , yeah high viscosity paste can create some resistance against tightening the heatsink when it is cold, best to heat it up.

Hai today I found out that the temp are back alot worse, when idle it never went below 54 degree and gpu is idle on 50 degree, Funy thing sometime when browsing it spike the temp to 97....