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What about the 3700X? Where will that go? I'm happy with my 3800X so I would rather skip, and wait for the new socket with DDR5.

3700x becomes the new VR rig
2700x becomes a sale system with the 1070ti, after i get my new GPU (whatever it ends up being)

If the VR rig becomes an ITX 3700 + watercooled 1080, it can easily be moved between secondary PC/VR system on a whim (i'm tempted to set up a desk in the lounge anyway... 2nd system may live out there in summer for the AC)
 

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Some baseline numbers for the 4650G before B-die shows up. Renoir has a good 0.3-0.8ns less latency than Matisse in AIDA with full write bandwidth. However, the membench results are ever so slightly slower (about a second, 118s vs 117s), and copy performance is usually a gig or two lower than Matisse, which probably accounts for the lower actual performance.

Kinda strange that the 4650G is supposed to be an "up to 4.2GHz" part, yet my 4650G seems to have forgotten about that. All cores boost up to 4.3GHz precisely, all the time, even in effective clock. As a result, ST bench in CPU-Z consistently beats my 3700X; 4650G's Core 0 is its second best while 3700X's Core 0 is DFL.

Runs cool and quiet, as expected of a monolithic 6-core.

renoir baseline.png

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Absolutely ancient not-Bdie from like 2015 proving that it can do 3933 1:1, 16-17-17-36-56-325 with the usual secondaries at just 1.45V and auto SOC, somehow:

zemtinings 3933 16-17-17-36 325 e-die.pngrenoir 3933 16-17-17-36 e-die.pngrenoir 3933 109s membench.png

B-die tRFC, crappy B-die tRCD and tRP, and B-die voltage. Color me impressed

Both Renoir and 4Gb E-die doing some absolutely crazy shit trying their damndest to persuade me to cancel that B-die order. Gotta say, they're doing a good job so far. Couldn't do 4000 on auto VSOC however, bootlooped a couple times then defaulted to booting 4000 at 1:2 IF.
 
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For once in my life, reading Tomshardware resulted in something useful because disabling TSME is essential for benchmarking. No actual difference in membench results, but hey, free latency reduction is free latency reduction.

renoir no tsme - Copy.png


So if you have a PRO CPU, remember to get rid of that pesky feature in the BIOS.

@biffzinker it's AMD's response to rambleed, only available on its pro series and enterprise SKUs. I can see why some corporate Ryzen PRO mobile users would want that extra security, but imo overhyped like every other vulnerability that requires existing access to a machine.
 
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Interesting. New BIOS for my board
- Support AMD SAM(SMART ACCESS MEMORY) function

Ooooh, SAM requires a BIOS update? that'll help narrow down what platforms it works on pretty fast
 
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Its X570 and B550 that look to have the new bioses. The others chipsets havent been updated in awhile
 

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Its X570 and B550 that look to have the new bioses. The others chipsets havent been updated in awhile

B450 and X470 are getting 5000 series support in jan, *if* they get SAM, it'll be then
 
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I got the F60C bios for my Gigabyte B450 which is suppised to support 5000-series a few days ago :)
 

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i found a random BETA BIOS for my mobo and 5000 series as well, huh didn't expect that

this is a german forum with an amazing collection of beta BIOS for all ryzen boards

 
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I just submitted a RMA request with AMD for the Ryzen 5 3600 that stopped initializing on POST from a while back when I left some replies in this thread.
 
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Looking to get a 5600X or 5700 next year...
 

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I just submitted a RMA request with AMD for the Ryzen 5 3600 that stopped initializing on POST from a while back when I left some replies in this thread.

And I might have to RMA my ITX board. All Bluetooth functions from the AX200 straight up disappeared in hardware and software. Wifi 6 works fine so I suspect some part of the BIOS gave up the ghost.

I guess it's reassuring to see that good ol Gigabyte hasn't changed, that they still can't make functional BIOSes worth a damn. Not doing a lot other than some mundane memory testing these past few days, and every day is a new delightful surprise.

Old BIOS settings sticking and unchangeable despite Windows clearly showing reset to default settings, BIOS refusing to reboot into anything other than BIOS, entire menus disappearing from the BIOS (at one point I lost both Smart Fan and AMD Overclocking), corrupted BIOSes that not even Q-Flash can solve, and now the Bluetooth disappearing act.

Kinda glad I left the Gigabyte board for my tinkering rig and not my main computer. Great board, terrible firmware.
 
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Doesn't look like there is anything new or needed to activate (SAM) in the BIOS. At least its not showing up for me with a 3700X & X570

Did notice changing LLC settings from AUTO I started to get WHEA Errors.
 

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So as of today i have a few ryzens

5800x + 64GB 3600
3700x + 32GB 3200
2700x + 16GB 3200
1400 + 4GB 2400 (mmmm baby, the sheer fucking HORSEPOWER)


I get the feeling SAM will be a modern AGESA that the AMD driver detects, and thats all it takes - with an on/off toggle in case of incompatibilities.
 

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Note to self, don't ever use Gigabyte beta BIOSes. Rolling back to F10 (twice) and clearing CMOS fixed my Bluetooth.

Testing these cheap Viper Steels. Couldn't do 3800 14-14-14. But could do 4000 16-16-16 and 4133 16-16-16. SOC needed a bump to 1.15V to stop randomly rebooting past 4000 threshold. But for some reason actual performance hits a wall past 4000 despite being stable nets only like 0.2ns over 4000. Huh. Still not sure if I really want to keep these.

First time over 60GB/s, below 55ns and a 108s membench.

renoir 4000 16-16-16 54.9ns.pngrenoir 4000 108 membench.png
 

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Does series 5000 also have this horrible idle temps and temperature jumps? Just asking becasue that's a thing i dont like in my zen 2.
 
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Benchmark Scores Faster than yours... I'd bet on it. :)
Does series 5000 also have this horrible idle temps and temperature jumps? Just asking becasue that's a thing i dont like in my zen 2.
Idle temps unless they are way out of whack mean nothing to load temps. Temp spikes are normal in all PCs.
 
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