DUAL 3090 rtx SLI, Dual CPU, 1.5 TB Ram, quiet, compact case

[Bushranger]

IMHO
I used to really enjoy overclocking. I'm a dinosaur, in the early days you could make changes to cpu parameters with a conductive pencil mark and changing jumpers on motherboards.
Lately, I've been able to get decent compact builds that run cool without watercooling. Also, I do a lot of tweaking, after its assembled, and the water cooling makes everything a longer and more complicated process. There was a time when cpus were not locked and getting the most out of them was an art. I enjoyed that. However the "unlocked" cpus of modern times are in the same price point of the next chip level above the original unlocked cpu. If I buy the top of the line cpu, I'd use watercooling to go further, but halo cpus are not unlocked. Lastly, overclocking does not yield the relative performance yield in real-time results. Example, folks that overclock the heck out of their video cards to get a high benchmark score - simultaneously the same settings couldn't be used to play 15 hours of gaming without texture flashing, and other issues. A pc should be able to be turned run, and run for 30 days without someone pouring cryogenic liquids on it to get it to work. That stuff is fun just for a dragsters. My pc is my daily driver. So think of it as a practical Lamborghini Urus daily driver, and not a dragster where the engine and tires give their life on the first run.

So I max out the build to provide the most consistent performance and not worry about the liquids, the evaporation, leaks, pump failures, etc.

I can get more performance by enabling sli, dual sockets MBs, ram, drives, and correctly configure the OS to be a tool and not get in the way of what I'm trying to accomplish. Correctly configuring things will often yield better results than a poor configuration and some overclocking.

So Id o like water-cooling/overclocking, but the ROI is not what it used to be I think I was the first person to simultaneously water-cool dual cpus, the chipset, and the GPU at the same time). I actually had to CNC a lot of the blocks. Example, I was the first to water-cool rambus (Rambus would normally run a few degrees over meltdown temperatures).

Great advice no doubt gained over many years of building.

 

[poorsod]

Dude what's your degree lol. I'm pursuing software engineering, bachelor's degree. Hopefully I'll have an excuse to build a best pc like yours, goddamn.

 

[venturi]

Doctorate, dissertation in ML/DL in clinical decision support systems. I have 3 full time jobs (really), and I'm trying to get this dissertation completed, been a long road (its not the age - but its the mileage)




...and completely finishing cyberpunk 2077 has really cut into the dissertation over the past few weeks.

 

[Deleted member 193596]

the only thing that triggers me is that awful glass table

 

[Devon68]

I have 3 full time jobs (really)

How is that possible? Aren't full time gigs 8 hours each? When do you sleep?

 

[n-ster]

Any plans on using U.2 drives? I'm in love with my optane drive, wish I could afford higher capacities or the upcoming pci-e 4.0 ones

 

[Tomgang]

Oh this is a expensive and good looking machine. Just one thing, how the hell dit you get not one but two rtx 3090 all ready in October.

This proves that some are blessed and others are just unlucky and have waited like months to get just one card.

 

[venturi]

How is that possible? Aren't full time gigs 8 hours each? When do you sleep?

They are not hourly jobs, I overlap and work efficiently ...well at least I try to

 

[Frick]

They are not hourly jobs, I overlap and work efficiently ...well at least I try to

So they're not full time jobs.

 

[venturi]

Oh this is a expensive and good looking machine. Just one thing, how the hell dit you get not one but two rtx 3090 all ready in October.

This proves that some are blessed and others are just unlucky and have waited like months to get just one card.

The cards were not any harder to get than the unobtainium of getting SLI/NVlink bridges from nvidia...
...did I mention unobtanium?

 

[yotano211]

The cards were not any harder to get than the unobtainium of getting SLI/NVlink bridges from nvidia...
...did I mention unobtanium?

Is that some kind of soup?
I like soup, and tacos.

 

[venturi]

They are not hourly jobs, I overlap and work efficiently ...well at least I try to

not to disagree but I'm CEO of a medical practice, owner of a nuclear pharmacy (isotopes), owner of an IT company, president of a DoD contract firm... they all FEEL like FULL-TIME jobs and now ...I'm finishing my doctorate. The premise was that I'm busy,
---at least there are 36 hours in a day or I probably wouldn't get it done

 

[Toothless]

not disagree but I'm CEO of a medical practice, owner of a nuclear pharmacy (isotopes), President of an IT company, President of a DoD contract firm... they all FEEL like FULL-TIME jobs and now ...I'm finishing my doctorate. The premise was that I'm busy,
---at least there are 36 hours in a day or I probably wouldn't get it done

I heard you need an assistant? Yes? Paid position? Yes?

 

[venturi]

I heard you need an assistant? Yes? Paid position? Yes?

you'd have to finish my dissertation for me

 

[Toothless]

you'd have to finish my dissertation for me

If it's about pancakes, I gotchu. Anything else I'm just a lost cause.

 

[Caring1]

I heard you need an assistant? Yes? Paid position? Yes?

You'll have to wear a mini skirt and sit on his lap to "take notes"

 

[Toothless]

You'll have to wear a mini skirt and sit on his lap to "take notes"

I'm probably bigger-built than him. I like my food way too much. Probably why I'm always broke.

 

[Devon68]

not to disagree but I'm CEO of a medical practice, owner of a nuclear pharmacy (isotopes), owner of an IT company, president of a DoD contract firm... they all FEEL like FULL-TIME jobs and now ...I'm finishing my doctorate. The premise was that I'm busy,

Wow that is amazing and scary at the same time.

 

[venturi]

Wow that is amazing and scary at the same time.

My workload scares me too. Add in wife kids and school... sometimes a little bit of panic creeps in.

The PC enjoys double duty as fun and games but obviously it get used for work/school too.
Only my school work can max the ram and leaves it hungry for more resources, everything else barley shows up as effort.

I've been tinkering on the SLI part and forcing it (as before) and I've had mixed results but when it works it pretty awesome. Nvidia has made it more complicated of course.

My current unfinished games /to play are
Cyberpunk 2077
The sinking City

I just finished Observer (recently) it has ray tracing in it as well.

my observations still hold in my little world:
DLSS - seriously? Why buy a 4k monitor so you can run it at 1920 and 2560? Never understood the marketing on this. nvidia should just say ray-tracing kills performance and things will run shitty and the hardware can't handle it at high rez and maintain decent frame rate (60+) with max eye candy on a single card. I see DLSS as the ray tracing band-aid to lackluster performance.

Vignetting - why?
Film grain - why?
Motion blur? why?

I'm trying to get things to look as visually great as possible, and those parameters/selections are counterintuitive. Why is film grain and vignetting even an option?


well, I'll get off my soap box now...

 

[freeagent]

You're past and present build's are awesome. I remember seeing them. Its nice to hear a little back story behind the build, I found it all to be quite interesting indeed.

 

[Deleted member 24505]

My workload scares me too. Add in wife kids and school... sometimes a little bit of panic creeps in.

The PC enjoys double duty as fun and games but obviously it get used for work/school too.
Only my school work can max the ram and leaves it hungry for more resources, everything else barley shows up as effort.

I've been tinkering on the SLI part and forcing it (as before) and I've had mixed results but when it works it pretty awesome. Nvidia has made it more complicated of course.

My current unfinished games /to play are
Cyberpunk 2077
The sinking City

I just finished Observer (recently) it has ray tracing in it as well.

my observations still hold in my little world:
DLSS - seriously? Why buy a 4k monitor so you can run it at 1920 and 2560? Never understood the marketing on this. nvidia should just say ray-tracing kills performance and things will run shitty and the hardware can't handle it at high rez and maintain decent frame rate (60+) with max eye candy on a single card. I see DLSS as the ray tracing band-aid to lackluster performance.

Vignetting - why?
Film grain - why?
Motion blur? why?

I'm trying to get things to look as visually great as possible, and those parameters/selections are counterintuitive. Why is film grain and vignetting even an option?


well, I'll get off my soap box now...

I hate motion blur, always off for me

 

[venturi]

So, I know this is not the highest ever score in Cinebench R23
but I believe it is the highest on a workstation with dual 3090 RTX SLI ever.
Other motherboards , including ryzen/epyc can't accommodate two cards and two CPU and provided the sli flag.

52006 score, no overclocking (yet)

 

[nguyen]

my observations still hold in my little world:
DLSS - seriously? Why buy a 4k monitor so you can run it at 1920 and 2560? Never understood the marketing on this. nvidia should just say ray-tracing kills performance and things will run shitty and the hardware can't handle it at high rez and maintain decent frame rate (60+) with max eye candy on a single card. I see DLSS as the ray tracing band-aid to lackluster performance.

The way I see it DLSS is an option that you have to turn on regardless of whether you use DXR or not. The extra performance offer by DLSS will enable you to:
1. Enable DXR or any other graphical option to improve visual
2. Use DSR to improve visual if you don't like DXR
3. Save on power consumption, DLSS with frame capping can reduce power consumption by 25%.

Here is a comparison in Cyberpunk 2077 at 400% zoom, left is native 3440x1440 (Ultra settings, no RTX, no DLSS, 62FPS); Right is DSR 1.78x (Ultra settings, no RTX, DLSS Quality, 64FPS)

DLSS is not a band-aid, it's a must have while DXR is the complimentary visual upgrade

 

[Miguel2013]

do you have some public service on that pc or similar like a ssh to run programs, I need a similar pc to upload my blender projects to render them.

 

[venturi]

The way I see it DLSS is an option that you have to turn on regardless of whether you use DXR or not. The extra performance offer by DLSS will enable you to:
1. Enable DXR or any other graphical option to improve visual
2. Use DSR to improve visual if you don't like DXR
3. Save on power consumption, DLSS with frame capping can reduce power consumption by 25%.

Here is a comparison in Cyberpunk 2077 at 400% zoom, left is native 3440x1440 (Ultra settings, no RTX, no DLSS, 62FPS); Right is DSR 1.78x (Ultra settings, no RTX, DLSS Quality, 64FPS)

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DLSS is not a band-aid, it's a must have while DXR is the complimentary visual upgrade

Sir
(and of course this is just my personal observation)

you are mixing apples and oranges in your comparison

Try a comparison with Ray Tracing ON at 3840x2160 or 4092x2160 max visual candy, no DOF, no motion blur, max othwr settings (ultra and psycho when available) Compared to the same settings with DLSS, there is a lower quality/less detail image rendered on DLSS

your comparison is not with ray tracing ON in both scenarios

and DSR isn’t applicable at 4K,5k and 8k

WITHOUT the DLSS lower resolution cheat, ray tracing cuts in half your performance, but you sacrifice the resolution with DLSS

if you like DLSS that’s fine with me, to each his own,
I’d rather have best visuals at 60 FPS than lesser visuals at 120 FPS