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[Durvelle27]

Ofc it shows it. Look under CPU power package SMU, below CPU EDC. Stock 5800x will run up to 140w +/- giving just over 6000.

This not my first rodeo

just PBO and -30 .

Tweak for balance, 195 195 125 -30 / FINAL

I see you’re using a 5950X though which is better binnned

 

[freeagent]

This should be it, but if (I don't recall Asus having this problem but I could be wrong) it forces non-1:1 IF to strictly 2:1 then you may have to dig into the CBS or OC menus to find the dividers section:

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I needed somewhere in the ballpark of 1.8V to bench my 4400 16-16-16 1:1 result in AIDA, on my 4650G. Even with decent B-die you're probably looking at somewhere around 1.65V at the very very least.

If sticking to 1.5-1.55V max, 4000 or 4133 16-16-16 is probably a better bet for a stable daily setup, but you don't have a Renoir, so the performance just isn't there above 1900MHz IF, pretty pointless.

It has to be buried in either CBS or the AMD OC. Its the memory controller that I am looking for. As for the ram, I have no idea what it can do. I just set 1.5 and selected 4200 and I was in windows, saw my mem controller was way out to lunch went back in bios and selected 4400 and mem controller went up by 66hmz. I spent a little while digging around and couldn't find it, I will look again when I wake up a little more.

And thanks!

 

[Durvelle27]

This is as much as I can extract but this is a all core clock of 4.8GHz

I’m wondering what is the max safe Volts I can pump into this CPU

 

[harm9963]

This is as much as I can extract but this is a all core clock of 4.8GHz

I’m wondering what is the max safe Volts I can pump into this CPU

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Temps are missing , and watts please

 

[enor14]

Hello everyone, as a newbie here I was wondering if I could see 5900X tweaks here?

 

[thesmokingman]

This not my first rodeo

But you don't know to update the app? Instead of debating, you don't wonder why you don't have that stat???

 

[Durvelle27]

Temps are missing , and watts please

I'll post more shots later

 

[harm9963]

Hello everyone, as a newbie here I was wondering if I could see 5900X tweaks here?

Cheer's

http://imgur.com/a/hdElP39

 

[freeagent]

Should be really easy for Asus. On the main Tweaker page, should be an option for Infinity Fabric clock directly below memory speed.

Called FCLK frequency. Order on that page is like DOCP, BCLK, spread spectrum, APE, memclock, IFclock

Probably also options for dividers buried somewhere in CBS or AMD OC menus, but those are messy and why do that if its right on the tweaker page

BIOS also has a search function F6 i think

Ok, so it looks like there isn't much I can do Fclk = Mclk and there is no real way to deviate from it, unless this bios is not optimized for this CPU. If that's the case maybe I should move back to 1004, the one it shipped with. Because I don't see anything that lets me adjust Mclk, and the help mssg says Fclk = Mclk. I only see memory speed, fclk and cpu multi as things I can change that affect MHz outside of voltage and timings. Nothing with straps or Mclk. Mclk being memory controller listed in HWinfo.

Is X570 like that? By your words it sounds like its a little more flexible. And if that's the case I should have gotten the x570 Prime pro as it was cheaper lol. FFS

 

[tabascosauz]

Ok, so it looks like there isn't much I can do Fclk = Mclk and there is no real way to deviate from it, unless this bios is not optimized for this CPU. If that's the case maybe I should move back to 1004, the one it shipped with. Because I don't see anything that lets me adjust Mclk, and the help mssg says Fclk = Mclk. I only see memory speed, fclk and cpu multi as things I can change that affect MHz outside of voltage and timings. Nothing with straps or Mclk. Mclk being memory controller listed in HWinfo.

Is X570 like that? By your words it sounds like its a little more flexible. And if that's the case I should have gotten the x570 Prime pro as it was cheaper lol. FFS

I've no idea what you're getting at anymore. You can't change MCLK to whatever you want, that's your memclock. It's always half your MT/s. If you're running 3800, it's 1900, period. etc

I've not had any issues setting FCLK to whatever I want on my Asus board, independent of memclock. If it doesn't work for you, you might find a submenu relating to Infinity Fabric dividers in AMD Overclocking menu.

The help message that pops up only is a reminder that FCLK should equal MCLK for best performance. I'm not sure what you're looking for here.

 

[freeagent]

I've no idea what you're getting at anymore. You can't change MCLK to whatever you want, that's your memclock. It's always half your MT/s. If you're running 3800, it's 1900, period. etc

I've not had any issues setting FCLK to whatever I want on my Asus board, independent of memclock. If it doesn't work for you, you might find a submenu relating to Infinity Fabric dividers in AMD Overclocking menu.

The help message that pops up only is a reminder that FCLK should equal MCLK for best performance. I'm not sure what you're looking for here.

OK, Im getting my terminology mixed up. Sorry about that. I can set my Fclk to 1900 Max. I can run my ram 1:1 @ 1900. But if I go faster then 1900 on the ram, the memory controller takes a dive, and I cant bring that back up to match the other two frequencies, like you could sort of do on 939 and x58. So right now for me there is no point in running my ram faster than 1900, because performance takes a bit of a dive.

What got me curious was trying to see how fast I can run my ram, but once I broke the 1:1 ratio, there was no point to running ram at high speed. I tried 2000 up to 2200 on the ram. Fclk will not run at 1933. At least not without stock voltage..

 

[tabascosauz]

OK, Im getting my terminology mixed up. Sorry about that. I can set my Fclk to 1900 Max. I can run my ram 1:1 @ 1900. But if I go faster then 1900 on the ram, the memory controller takes a dive, and I cant bring that back up to match the other two frequencies, like you could sort of do on 939 and x58. So right now for me there is no point in running my ram faster than 1900, because performance takes a bit of a dive.

What got me curious was trying to see how fast I can run my ram, but once I broke the 1:1 ratio, there was no point to running ram at high speed. I tried 2000 up to 2200 on the ram. Fclk will not run at 1933. At least not without stock voltage..

That's just how desktop Ryzen is. IF can't really run faster than 1900. If you're very lucky, you can do 1933 (or even 2000 now on better BIOSes for Ryzen 5000), if you're unlucky like me you can barely do 1800.

The weak link are the IF traces on the substrate from chiplet to I/O die. There is no way around this, and I'm surprised you didn't know. It isn't just your PC, there IS no point exceeding 1:1 on Ryzen for daily use.

You have to realize that IF is what's holding Ryzen back. Even the 3000 UMC can hit DDR4-5000, it's just that without IF keeping up, there's no performance benefit to be had.

If you want higher 1:1 speeds, only Renoir can do it right now. My 4650G stays 1:1 to 2200MHz IF and daily settings 2100MHz.

 

[iambkm01]

That's just how desktop Ryzen is. IF can't really run faster than 1900. If you're very lucky, you can do 1933 (or even 2000 now on better BIOSes for Ryzen 5000), if you're unlucky like me you can barely do 1800.

The weak link are the IF traces on the substrate from chiplet to I/O die. There is no way around this, and I'm surprised you didn't know. It isn't just your PC, there IS no point exceeding 1:1 on Ryzen for daily use.

You have to realize that IF is what's holding Ryzen back. Even the 3000 UMC can hit DDR4-5000, it's just that without IF keeping up, there's no performance benefit to be had.

If you want higher 1:1 speeds, only Renoir can do it right now. My 4650G stays 1:1 to 2200MHz IF and daily settings 2100MHz.

Hi Sir, could you help me?

Any idea what i Should do ? I just got a brand new 5950x + Dark Hero + 3800CL14 G Skills 4x 8gb, latest bios, tried beta and prior to that. I cant get anything to stay stable above 2133/1066 (default mode), which is pathetic. im very limited on my knowledge, been trying to fix this for 2 days now, and I cannot figure this out. I had people on reddit help me with various timings and voltage changes but nothing lasted more than 40 minutes before crashing. the 2133.1066 was capable of staying on for 24 hours straight.

 

[tabascosauz]

Hi Sir, could you help me?

Any idea what i Should do ? I just got a brand new 5950x + Dark Hero + 3800CL14 G Skills 4x 8gb, latest bios, tried beta and prior to that. I cant get anything to stay stable above 2133/1066 (default mode), which is pathetic. im very limited on my knowledge, been trying to fix this for 2 days now, and I cannot figure this out. I had people on reddit help me with various timings and voltage changes but nothing lasted more than 40 minutes before crashing. the 2133.1066 was capable of staying on for 24 hours straight.

get zentimings, post a screenshot

ZenTimings

ZenTimings is a simple and lightweight app for monitoring memory timings on Ryzen platform.

zentimings.protonrom.com

 

[Durvelle27]

Temps are missing , and watts please

Here ya go

 

[iambkm01]

get zentimings, post a screenshot

ZenTimings

ZenTimings is a simple and lightweight app for monitoring memory timings on Ryzen platform.

zentimings.protonrom.com

I have a few, all these links and 2 attachment combinations failed within 30-1hr


Latest one 3 hours ago:

http://imgur.com/yT4Gk4D

Yesterday:

http://imgur.com/a/hRszQfr

 

[tabascosauz]

I have a few, all these links and 2 attachment combinations failed within 30-1hr


Latest one 3 hours ago:

http://imgur.com/yT4Gk4D

Yesterday:

http://imgur.com/a/hRszQfr

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Are these all from Reddit suggestions? Sweet lord. Probably should ask r/overclocking instead of r/AMD because there are actual experienced B-die overclockers on the former, the latter is a bunch of circlejerking idiots

Try the 3600 16-16-16 profile but set SOC Voltage to 1.1V manual, DRAM voltage to 1.35V, leave everything else alone

What are you testing stability with.

 

[freeagent]

That's just how desktop Ryzen is. IF can't really run faster than 1900. If you're very lucky, you can do 1933 (or even 2000 now on better BIOSes for Ryzen 5000), if you're unlucky like me you can barely do 1800.

The weak link are the IF traces on the substrate from chiplet to I/O die. There is no way around this, and I'm surprised you didn't know. It isn't just your PC, there IS no point exceeding 1:1 on Ryzen for daily use.

You have to realize that IF is what's holding Ryzen back. Even the 3000 UMC can hit DDR4-5000, it's just that without IF keeping up, there's no performance benefit to be had.

If you want higher 1:1 speeds, only Renoir can do it right now. My 4650G stays 1:1 to 2200MHz IF and daily settings 2100MHz.

Thank you! Ok I’m not going crazy, I’m just at the wall. Thank you for the detailed explanation, I had pieced it together wrong information wise and thought I was missing something. Crash course in learning is the bestest

 

[iambkm01]

Are these all from Reddit suggestions? Sweet lord. Probably should ask r/overclocking instead of r/AMD because there are actual experienced B-die ppl on the former

Try the 3600 16-16-16 profile but set SOC Voltage to 1.1V manual, DRAM voltage to 1.35V, leave everything else alone

Yes, reddit /buildapc sub. I wasnt sure where to start. Like I said I am super new at this. A few guys tried to help, no luck. Do I set it to DOCP and then change the #'s or set itto Manual and then adjust the FCLK ?

 

[tabascosauz]

Yes, reddit /buildapc sub. I wasnt sure where to start. Like I said I am super new at this. A few guys tried to help, no luck. Do I set it to DOCP and then change the #'s or set itto Manual and then adjust the FCLK ?

Start from DOCP, then scroll down to cchange the two voltages

 

[iambkm01]

Start from DOCP, then scroll down to cchange the two voltages

OK so manually set it to 3600 / 1800 manually change timings to 16 16 16 36 and then do the 2 voltages ?

 

[tabascosauz]

OK so manually set it to 3600 / 1800 manually change timings to 16 16 16 36 and then do the 2 voltages ?

Yep, don't mess with anything else

this might be pretty long, might want to take this to PMs

 

[iambkm01]

Yep, don't mess with anything else

this might be pretty long, might want to take this to PMs

Ok let me do this and I will respond via PM after, with results after i boot it up and either am stable for 30m - 1hr or crash, whichever happens first , thank you sir

 

[tabascosauz]

Ok let me do this and I will respond via PM after, with results after i boot it up and either am stable for 30m - 1hr or crash, whichever happens first , thank you sir

Before you do that, what are you testing with? Use HCI Memtest or Testmem5

 

[Durvelle27]

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