The Ampere owners club - 30xx series

[dyonoctis]

519 EUR is very nice for 3070.

Post more pics of the card!

I'm running out of zip tie, I cannot post pictures of my pc in that state

 

[bug]

I finally joined that exclusive club, I was initially going for the humble 3060Ti, but finding the 3070 at MSRP (519€) was a much better deal than all the overpriced aftermarket 3060Ti. LDLC (french retailer) doesn't list the FE on their website, you can only access them with a specific link, they stayed in stock for a good 10min. Once it's done the link will just show you a 404 page.
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The card is still expensive, but a good deal, all things considered. Congrats on your luck and enjoy!

 

[sepheronx]

Well, I kinda made a mistake buy.

So at our local memory express they had a bunch of RTX 3060 Ti's and 3070s arrive. I told my wife to flip a coin while we were in the car (I went there to just pick up a SSD for another build I am doing to sell) and so I got heads (instead of tails obviously) and so I purchased a ASUS RTX 3070 Dual.

 

[cst1992]

Why? It's a great card and it's the more powerful of the two.
Unless you think it's a bad value for money it's not a mistake buy.

 

[sepheronx]

Why? It's a great card and it's the more powerful of the two.
Unless you think it's a bad value for money it's not a mistake buy.

$800 CAD total is expensive. Far from MSRP even if you do the exchange rate

 

[cst1992]

Agree.

 

[bug]

$800 CAD total is expensive. Far from MSRP even if you do the exchange rate

Asus has little to do with MSRP. They're overpriced by default. Sometimes for a good reason, but most times... not.

 

[sepheronx]

Asus has little to do with MSRP. They're overpriced by default. Sometimes for a good reason, but most times... not.

believe it or not, it was the cheapest one. It was $760~ before taxes. The cheapest model in Canada is the Gigabyte Eagle model at $730~ before taxes.

 

[bug]

believe it or not, it was the cheapest one. It was $760~ before taxes. The cheapest model in Canada is the Gigabyte Eagle model at $730~ before taxes.

What I meant is: don't fret too much about not being close to MSRP, Asus usually isn't even without factoring in supply issues

That said, enjoy your new purchase

 

[Mussels]

I still love that i got a 3090, and barely manage to max it out in any game.

tasty irony.

 

[nguyen]

I still love that i got a 3090, and barely manage to max it out in any game.

tasty irony.

Time to dial in some tasty overclock there , 5-10% more perf helps especially when fps <60.

 

[Mussels]

Time to dial in some tasty overclock there , 5-10% more perf helps especially when fps <60.

nah i underclocked to 1800MHz at 0.8v to annoy the people who have to overclock to reach my performance


and then i play rimworld to let the GPU run without starting the fans

 

[wolf]

and barely manage to max it out in any game.

I know that feeling even with the 3080, it just breezes through any task I can throw at it, bar say CP2077 with all the bells.

Picked up Battlefront 2 for free on EPIC, turned all the dials to 11, and need to add in well over 100% render scale to bring it down from frame capping on my monitor, and that's undervolted at 1830mhz/806mv too. I love being in a position to add gratuitous super-sampling.

 

[Dellenn]

Got mine from Best Buy back in October when they started selling them.

 

[toilet pepper]

So I got a got an MSi 3080 Ventus OC and it runs very hot. At stock it reaches around 75C at 1845mhz during port royal. I have since undervolted it to .81mV @ 1830mhz and used a custom fan curve to get the temps right with no perceivable impact. I now get around 65C at the same test and during gaming.

What I found odd was when I'm doing some mining on the side. The card was thermal throttling at my custom curve even when the core is downclocked to 1100mhz at .71mV. I sort-off fixed it by running the fan at 80%.

I realized this shouldn't be the case. The gddr6x was cooking itself. The thermal pads are there and I can see them from the side. Even the "graphene" (plastic) backplate was getting hot and the thermal pads are visibly connecting it to the board.

From the sides, it is hard to tell what kind of thermal pads they used but it looks somewhere near 2 or 3mm. So I bought a 3mm Gelid thermal pad and squeezed it a little and replace the existing thermal pad.

The gpu temp increased by 2C during port royal and gaming which looks good meaning the vram are now transferring heat properly to the heatsink. To validate this I used the mining application again and there is no thermal throttling anymore using my curve and the gpu is getting hot relatively.

There are few reviews of this card and hard to get some decent information about it. This was the cheapest and most decent 3080 I can find at the time and I am not that surprised by the things I personally found about it.

TLDR

There are no vram temp sensors. I'm sure this is an nvidia thing. If it can be read I'm sure wiz would have included it in gpuz.

Gddr6x can become really hot and will cook itself.

Cheap coolers are cheap. The Ventus cooler can barely handle the stock 3080. I'm imagining MSI intentionally cheaped out on the thermal pads to make the gpu core temp look a little better since you cant check vram temps.

I know this problem isn't isolated to the Ventus as I have seen people complaining with the same problem who owns cards from other brands.

PS: I know mining is not its intended use but this PSA might help people in the future when the 2nd hand market gets flooded.

 

[cst1992]

So I got a got an MSi 3080 Ventus OC and it runs very hot. At stock it reaches around 75C at 1845mhz during port royal. I have since undervolted it to .81mV @ 1830mhz and used a custom fan curve to get the temps right with no perceivable impact. I now get around 65C at the same test and during gaming.

What I found odd was when I'm doing some mining on the side. The card was thermal throttling at my custom curve even when the core is downclocked to 1100mhz at .71mV. I sort-off fixed it by running the fan at 80%.

I realized this shouldn't be the case. The gddr6x was cooking itself. The thermal pads are there and I can see them from the side. Even the "graphene" (plastic) backplate was getting hot and the thermal pads are visibly connecting it to the board.

From the sides, it is hard to tell what kind of thermal pads they used but it looks somewhere near 2 or 3mm. So I bought a 3mm Gelid thermal pad and squeezed it a little and replace the existing thermal pad.

The gpu temp increased by 2C during port royal and gaming which looks good meaning the vram are now transferring heat properly to the heatsink. To validate this I used the mining application again and there is no thermal throttling anymore using my curve and the gpu is getting hot relatively.

Do you have the power draw recorded with temps in these tests?

Anyone owning a reference 3080 care to do a comparison?

 

[nguyen]

So I got a got an MSi 3080 Ventus OC and it runs very hot. At stock it reaches around 75C at 1845mhz during port royal. I have since undervolted it to .81mV @ 1830mhz and used a custom fan curve to get the temps right with no perceivable impact. I now get around 65C at the same test and during gaming.

What I found odd was when I'm doing some mining on the side. The card was thermal throttling at my custom curve even when the core is downclocked to 1100mhz at .71mV. I sort-off fixed it by running the fan at 80%.

I realized this shouldn't be the case. The gddr6x was cooking itself. The thermal pads are there and I can see them from the side. Even the "graphene" (plastic) backplate was getting hot and the thermal pads are visibly connecting it to the board.

From the sides, it is hard to tell what kind of thermal pads they used but it looks somewhere near 2 or 3mm. So I bought a 3mm Gelid thermal pad and squeezed it a little and replace the existing thermal pad.

The gpu temp increased by 2C during port royal and gaming which looks good meaning the vram are now transferring heat properly to the heatsink. To validate this I used the mining application again and there is no thermal throttling anymore using my curve and the gpu is getting hot relatively.

There are few reviews of this card and hard to get some decent information about it. This was the cheapest and most decent 3080 I can find at the time and I am not that surprised by the things I personally found about it.

TLDR

There are no vram temp sensors. I'm sure this is an nvidia thing. If it can be read I'm sure wiz would have included it in gpuz.

Gddr6x can become really hot and will cook itself.

Cheap coolers are cheap. The Ventus cooler can barely handle the stock 3080. I'm imagining MSI intentionally cheaped out on the thermal pads to make the gpu core temp look a little better since you cant check vram temps.

I know this problem isn't isolated to the Ventus as I have seen people complaining with the same problem who owns cards from other brands.

PS: I know mining is not its intended use but this PSA might help people in the future when the 2nd hand market gets flooded.

Some other user complained that his 3090's VRAM is thermal throttling during mining and his GPU-Z screenshot indicated that the memory is pulling 187W, while during gaming it's only around 80-100W.
Seems like you really need to underclock the GDDR6X for mining

I know that feeling even with the 3080, it just breezes through any task I can throw at it, bar say CP2077 with all the bells.

Picked up Battlefront 2 for free on EPIC, turned all the dials to 11, and need to add in well over 100% render scale to bring it down from frame capping on my monitor, and that's undervolted at 1830mhz/806mv too. I love being in a position to add gratuitous super-sampling.

4K is really tough on the 3090 though, I have to settle for DLSS Performance in CP2077 and lower some settings in Watch Dogs Legion (DLSS Balanced since Performance looks bad in WD Legion) to get stable 60fps .

 

[cst1992]

4K is really tough on the 3090 though, I have to settle for DLSS Performance in CP2077 and lower some settings in Watch Dogs Legion (DLSS Balanced since Performance looks bad in WD Legion) to get stable 60fps .

And here NVIDIA is, advertising the 3090 for 8K gaming

 

[Hyderz]

galax card?

 

[cst1992]

It is.

 

[Mussels]

Tis indeed a galax

it's RGB and not ARGB, and other than that its actually really nice quality. at stock the fans ramp up louder than i'd like, but quieter than the MSI 1070ti/1080 it replaced

heres rainbow mode activated

 

[cst1992]

at stock the fans ramp up louder than i'd like

This should help with fan noise: https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/3060ti-undervolting.276449/#post-4426953
Achieved really close results with noticeably lower power draw.

 

[toilet pepper]

Do you have the power draw recorded with temps in these tests?

Anyone owning a reference 3080 care to do a comparison?

@stock it is 320 watts accdng to gpuz. Undervolted 1830mhz at .81mv is 260 watts. When mining it is 220 watts 1100mhz +500 mem at .72mV.

 

[cst1992]

@stock it is 320 watts accdng to gpuz. Undervolted 1830mhz at .81mv is 260 watts. When mining it is 220 watts 1100mhz +500 mem at .72mV.

Look who you tagged

 

[Mussels]

@stock it is 320 watts accdng to gpuz. Undervolted 1830mhz at .81mv is 260 watts. When mining it is 220 watts 1100mhz +500 mem at .72mV.

I've been using the undervolt trick since day 1 of my deceased 3080 and 3090, thats why i mentioned its noise at stock

at 1800/0.8v i dont notice it over the room fan here (it's summer)