AMD Zen 4 Reportedly Features a 29% IPC Boost Over Zen 3

[SL2]

Am I?

Yes, you are. Numbers for individual games is a whole different thing.

AMD said 19 %, nothing else.

They can do the same with Zen 4 like in this image. Picking the best example. I doubt Zen 3 is 50% better than Zen 2 in LoL tbh.

That image also shows a mere 5 % in another game = not picking the best example.
I doubt 50 % higher IPC as well, but this doesn't come from AMD.

 

[qubit]

Oh yay, head to head competition with Intel... I'm almost excited.

These are great performance improvements, the kind of thing we've all been waiting for, but don't worry, low supply and scalpers will ensure that these can only be bought from dodgy sellers on eBay at vastly inflated prices. That's not exciting.

 

[SL2]

There must be a one-click Scalping@Home, or PCPartScalper out there for consumers to scalp together their new build all by themselves, right? That would be the only way to beat the scalpers at their own game. Power to the people. Waiting for the scalpers to go away is like waiting for the next (next next) HW launch.

 

[1d10t]

Same like Zen 3 had like 50%+ more than Zen 2 and at the end was like 10-15%.

i.e. those AMD presentation slides.

Am I?

Contradicting each time you post, it seems you stop reading after first number and find excuses as you go. Yeah, it was 50%, more FPS, comparing with previous Ryzen 9 3900XT. Now find that IPC in those slides.

 

[ExcuseMeWtf]

Same like Zen 3 had like 50%+ more than Zen 2 and at the end was like 10-15%.

i.e. those AMD presentation slides.

Great to know you already have retail Zen4 samples and know how they perform.

You must be the scalper final boss

 

[TheDeeGee]

Cool, but i've had my week and half experience with Zen3 already... no thank you

 

[Shtb]

Am I?

1st video by "5900x league of legends" search in YT (vs 3900X):

Avg fps in the end (10:45): 291 vs 158. This is 84.2% of increase, not +50%.

 

[dont whant to set it"']

@TheDeeGee No wonder Intel looks more stable by sticking to its version of tried and true all the while subverting progress. Hey man/women I will not stop you paying Intel over a 1000 bucks for a quad-core cpu, better yet a hyperthreaded dual-core cpu in this day of age. Thank Zen God or Thank God Zen, whatever, I'm out.​

 

[Night]

Somehow I think Zen 3+ will be a beta release of AM5 platform, while the fully functional platform should arrive with Zen 4. Lots of new things added apparently, I'm not expecting everything at 100% from the start. That's another year for me, oh well...

 

[SL2]

You must be the scalper final boss

Scalpers with time machines.. I hate it.

 

[ratirt]

Somehow I think Zen 3+ will be a beta release of AM5 platform, while the fully functional platform should arrive with Zen 4. Lots of new things added apparently, I'm not expecting everything at 100% from the start. That's another year for me, oh well...

This thread is about zen4 not sure where are you getting zen3+. AMD never said they would release zen3+.

 

[Cobain]

@TheDeeGee No wonder Intel looks more stable by sticking to its version of tried and true all the while subverting progress. Hey man/women I will not stop you paying Intel over a 1000 bucks for a quad-core cpu, better yet a hyperthreaded dual-core cpu in this day of age. Thank Zen God or Thank God Zen, whatever, I'm out.​

That's so 2017 tho. Right now is more like:

5600x - 350€, if you find one + whea errors, no stability
10600kf - 220€, plenty of stock, plug and play

3600 - 220€, good CPU , stable too
10400f - 140€, good CPU, stable

Easy decisions.

 

[Night]

This thread is about zen4 not sure where are you getting zen3+. AMD never said they would release zen3+.

AMD appears to be preparing a bridging series of processors based on the Zen 3+ architecture before the release of Zen 4. Zen 3+ is expected to be AMD's first AM5 CPU design and should bring small IPC gains similar to the improvements from Zen to Zen+ in the range of 4% - 7%.

 

[SL2]

Somehow I think Zen 3+ will be a beta release of AM5 platform, while the fully functional platform should arrive with Zen 4.

That's like implying it won't work that well, which I highly doubt. It will most likely be fully functional, otherwise it will be delayed.

It's like calling Ryzen 3000 the beta of chiplet implementation, and Ryzen 5000 the fully functional one.

 

[Night]

That's like implying it won't work that well, which I highly doubt. It will most likely be fully functional, otherwise it will be delayed.

It's like calling Ryzen 3000 the beta of chiplet implementation, and Ryzen 5000 the fully functional one.

No, more like calling the 1000 series beta and 3000 series the fully functional one.

 

[SL2]

No, more like calling the 1000 series beta and 3000 series the fully functional one.

But that's also wrong. Slower doesn't mean beta. Although you could call anything pre-Zen on AM4 beta, that's fine with me. AMD was just trying out ancient tech on the new socket, more or less.

 

[ratirt]

Zen3+ architecture so that's like what processor line at the moment? Cause I know 5000 series but that's Zen3.
And the OP stated the zen4 2022 release so where did you get this info from about zen3+?
AMD slides don't even include anything about zen3+

 

[SL2]

I'm talking about CPU's, not motherboards.

And the OP stated the zen4 2022 release so where did you get this info from about zen3+?

Read the OP.

 

[DeathtoGnomes]

again just seems like this made up by someone who wants people to be ultimately disappointed with AMD

Intel seems to do this alot lately, not like they have anything but paper launches recently.

 

[ratirt]

I'm talking about CPU's, not motherboards.


Read the OP.

Yeah I read and the slides from AMD are not showing anything about zen3+. Not sure where this info is coming from but the ZEN4 was included in the slides and has been from the beginning of AMD showing these. Nothing has been announced from AMD iso far so I'd look at the zen3+ as a rumour.

 

[ExcuseMeWtf]

Scalpers with time machines.. I hate it.

We don't have them because those bastards scalped those as well.

 

[Night]

Yeah I read and the slides from AMD are not showing anything about zen3+. Not sure where this info is coming from but the ZEN4 was included in the slides and has been from the beginning of AMD showing these. Nothing has been announced from AMD iso far so I'd look at the zen3+ as a rumour.

Well actually yes, it's kind of rumour and nothing confirmed, just presented that way, quote from the article:

While both the Chips and Cheese team and I have full belief that this information is accurate, that does not mean that this is 100% confirmed and you should not take this as unsalable truth. With this disclaimer out of the way, on to the juicy bits: Zen 3+, Zen 4 and even Zen 5.

 

[dont whant to set it"']

@Cobain The thing is, the thing is..., Intel would of pulled the rug right under ''us'', only to procede by pulling the sheets there after , after Skylake. You do the math, if mine is not up to your ''standards''.
Yeah, we ''all'' kind of like wondered what would and could a Phenom be on the process node on witch Bulldozer.AMD.arch was built on and its subsequents.
Le: no point living in the past as the past died already.

 

[ratirt]

Well actually yes, it's kind of rumour and nothing confirmed, just presented that way, quote from the article:

I'm not trying to pick on anybody but it's a mixed information. zen4 has been confirmed in 2022 but the zen3+ hasn't been confirmed ever. Mixing these information together making it sound like zen3+ is something inevitable which in fact it isn't. Anyway, I wouldn't mind AMD releasing it. Maybe it wouldn't be a bad idea.

 

[SDimmu]

That's so 2017 tho. Right now is more like:

5600x - 350€, if you find one + whea errors, no stability
10600kf - 220€, plenty of stock, plug and play

3600 - 220€, good CPU , stable too
10400f - 140€, good CPU, stable

Easy decisions.

I'm running my 5800x with memory at 3800mhz 14-14-14, 100% stable for months. I come from a 3600 and everything works perfectly