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OFFICIAL Cyberpunk 2077 Game Discussion

Chomiq said:
Hold on, I was playing as a dude and had an option to kiss River.
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Why are you so surprised? Nowadays anything is possible :) No shock here :D
 
ratirt said:
Why are you so surprised? Nowadays anything is possible :) No shock here :D
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I thought that indicated a romance option, even the dialogue was heavily leaning toward it.
 
I bought the game a while ago on GOG.

Where can I find these items:
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lexluthermiester said:
I'm an ass-man myself, but seriously? We're admiring digital booty here... It's not real...
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i'm not doin this to fap to, i'm doing this for the laughs and sending it to my gaming friends "RTX boner on"
 
I think the funniest part is they went to a lot of effort for realistic skin tone and boob shape (and jiggle) but then... forgot nipples. they're a flat 2D texture that makes them look like they've gone inverted.

It's hilarious to deconstruct, but i cant post examples here for obvious reasons
 
Mussels said:
I think the funniest part is they went to a lot of effort for realistic skin tone and boob shape (and jiggle) but then... forgot nipples. they're a flat 2D texture that makes them look like they've gone inverted.

It's hilarious to deconstruct, but i cant post examples here for obvious reasons
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They just ran out of time!
 
As long as they don't ever nerf the butts they may just save the game. Every time a developer nerfs a beloved butt in a game, people make videos about it and form petitions to bring the ass back. They'll cancel you for that - a Prometheus will emerge to lead them in exodus to rounder horizons. This is 100% real, as described. It's happened. And at times the players have succeeded.
 
With so much crap going on at CDPR I wonder when the DLCs are coming, I'm just itching for a second playthrough.
 
robot zombie said:
As long as they don't ever nerf the butts they may just save the game. Every time a developer nerfs a beloved butt in a game, people make videos about it and form petitions to bring the ass back. They'll cancel you for that - a Prometheus will emerge to lead them in exodus to rounder horizons. This is 100% real, as described. It's happened. And at times the players have succeeded.
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Rumour has it that bioware/EA are censoring a lot of "butt" angle shots in the legendary edition, many people are butt hurt about it.(no pun intended)
 
milewski1015 said:
Took about a week off or so but hopped back in and am slowly going through and clearing out the side jobs/gigs/organized crime zones, etc. The next story mission I have to do is Nocturne OP55N1 - have ben putting it off as from what I hear, after that becomes the point of no return. I'd rather clear all the side stuff out first, and then finish the story. Currently level 46. Have 6 attribute points free to spend as I can't decide how I want to finish my build. Reflexes is already at 20 for the blades tree, and I was sitting at Technical 18 but bumped it up to 19 to open some door for a side quest I was doing at the time. Stealth is still at 12, Body at 6, and Intelligence at 4. Thought about dumping points into Body for the armor/stamina/melee bonuses and whatnot but it looks like it would still be too low to take full advantage of the tree. Leaning towards dumping points into Stealth (which I could max in two more levels) and putting perk points into Cold Blood. Just seems like the best use since I've already put a bunch of points into Stealth. Have decided I'll do a hacking build next playthrough so Intelligence isn't really that appealing at this point (especially being only at 4).
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I haven't started the game yet. Putting it off for a while, but your comment/experience is giving me a question. Do you think you can enjoy the game if you don't read a ton of guides/builds how to make your character? I mean, when I first started Diablo2 back in the days I was putting my skills points randomly, when I discovered the thousands of guides how to spent every single point you earn to get the maximum out of the game. And that threw me into lots math and planning on my builds :) Do you think this is here as well? or it can be figured out on one's own?
 
Stats cannot be changed later, skills/perks can be reset (for 100K).
 
lZKoce said:
I haven't started the game yet. Putting it off for a while, but your comment/experience is giving me a question. Do you think you can enjoy the game if you don't read a ton of guides/builds how to make your character? I mean, when I first started Diablo2 back in the days I was putting my skills points randomly, when I discovered the thousands of guides how to spent every single point you earn to get the maximum out of the game. And that threw me into lots math and planning on my builds :) Do you think this is here as well? or it can be figured out on one's own?
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Talking strictly in terms of build? Of course. I didn't really read any guides on builds (just chitchatted back and forth in this thread). There are 5 attributes: Body, Reflexes, Technical, Intelligence, and Cool. Within those attributes are different skill trees e.g. Cool houses skill trees for Stealth (pretty self explanatory) and Cold Blood (grants you buffs upon getting a kill). Every time you level up you get 1 attribute point and 1 perk point to spend. You can also gain perk points by leveling up the skill you've invested in (some of the milestones are extra perk points). For example, dumping bodies in containers to hide them gives experience for the stealth skill. You can only level up skills as high as it's attribute point is leveled. The max for both an attribute and skill is 20 - if your cool attribute (the attribute stealth falls under) is only 12, you can't level stealth higher than 12. Perks are gated behind the level of the attribute. @londiste makes an important point. The perk points you've spent can be reset and redistributed by buying a $100,000 item. You can't redistribute your attribute points though.

With that in mind, I think you do need to think about your build beforehand a bit. But as has been mentioned in this thread, there are quite a few perks/skill trees that get really powerful. I'm playing on the hardest difficulty as a stealth melee character. I haven't really had anybody give me a massive amount of trouble. There are definitely some perks that are useless though - in my experience, the perk in the stealth tree that allows you to throw knives is worthless because you don't get the knife back unless the enemy you killed drops one. Same with the perk in the stealth tree that lets you be undetectable when in the water. I finished the last of the sidequests yesterday - I only found myself in the water once and there weren't any enemies around.

If I could give some advice about attribute point distribution (I'll spoiler it so you can choose to avoid it if you want):
If you don't have an idea of a specific build, I'd recommend putting points into reflexes and then one of the other supporting attributes (intelligence or cool) depending on how you want to play. That'll set you up with a basic gunslinger build that you could change to bladed melee later.

Reflexes houses the Assault (boosts assault rifles, sniper rifles and SMGs), Handguns (boosts pistols and revolvers), and Blades (boosts bladed melee weapons) trees. By putting points into reflexes, you can focus on one weapon type and then reset the points later - you could start by playing a katana build, but if you decide you hate it, you can spend the 100k to reset and spec into rifles instead. I just think Reflexes is the most versatile attribute for weapon choice. The Annihilation tree under the Body attribute boosts shotguns and LMGs, but if you spec into that and don't like it, the only thing you can really switch to is the Street Brawler tree which focuses on blunt melee weapons - not as versatile.

As for the supporting attribute (intelligence vs. cool), that's more personal preference. I'm playing a stealth build and really enjoy it, but I've also always enjoyed the stealth aspect of games. Intelligence is for your hacking abilities - think Watch Dogs-esque world manipulation. Intelligence is my lowest attribute at only 4 points (I'm only 2 levels off max level and don't see that changing). But I find that even the base cyberdeck you get (the module that determines how much RAM you have - your "currency" for hacking - and what basic quickhack abilities you have) is perfectly sufficient. I've never found a need to put points into Intelligence as my hacking is more just a tool to supplement my stealth approach. You can, from what I hear anyway, eventually get very very powerful hacks that will spread between enemies and kill them extremely quickly - sounds like you wouldn't even need a gun at some points. I plan on my next playthrough focusing on hacking more, but it's not the kind of thing I think you really need to invest points into if you're not centering your build around it.

I currently have 6 Body, 20 Reflexes, 19 Technical Ability, 4 Intelligence, and 18 Cool. Reflexes for the Blades tree, Technical for the Crafting tree (lets you upgrade weapons to a higher tier, although it's apparently quite a rabbit hole if you really focus on it according to @robot zombie), and Cool for the Stealth and Cold Blood trees. I'm using the unique Witcher 3-inspired Katana that you get by purchasing the game that I've upgraded to legendary tier, and then I have a unique revolver and a unique silenced sniper as backup weapons. I don't really have any trouble on the hardest difficulty unless I'm just charging head on at a group of 5 or 6 enemies with a katana in my hand. I get basically two-shotted so I have to plan things out a bit (and if I can thin the herd of enemies with stealth takedowns then that makes things easier too), but I definitely wouldn't say I'm not strong enough.
 
I'd generally agree with those tips. The reason I like cool is for the speed and crit boosts. Especially when it comes to melee. What I would do is increase reflexes and cool 1:1 until level 12 or so, break away to max reflexes and then come back for cool. The cold blooded tree gives you pretty major boosts that are essentially constant once you're setup. You can double your armor, get 50% more damage with melee weapons, massive attack speed boosts, 25% flat damage reduction... all of this adds up adds up to a fast, high-dps bladeslinger with some pretty serious defense. The stealth tree can net you a movement boost upon detection too, which you use to charge in. So you can run in and make quick work. As you level a skill (by using skills in that skill tree,) you also gain permanent buffs. Cold blood levels automatically as you fight and grants speed, armor, and crit boosts. With mantis blades (which get base DMG from reflexes,) it just isn't fair to the game at all.

The attack speed is really just devastating with any swinging weapon, especially once you get your crit chance up. It's astronomical damage. The tankiest bosses on the hardest difficulty can't withstand it.

Another underappreciated benefit of cool is the monowire - it sets the damage for the monowire. I don't know if anybody has caught onto the fact that that thing is kind of crazy. It's like a really fast Indiana Jones future-whip. Quite lethal and versatile. Lets you keep that Castlevania distance rather than getting in their faces like with the mantis blades. It's like a more defensive version of those, but the legendary version can be found for free and it really is very deadly.


Tech is really valuable, too. Just for crafting alone, though it's also your armor base stat (via level-derived percentage boosts, but still.) Throughout the game are iconic weapons that you can craft ideal versions of. If you want to be able to build them you need the crafting. They really can be worth it. They have the potential to be much more powerful than anything you could find and upgrade. Crafting is tedious and like the loot, has terrible RNG mechanics. It really has some fundamental problems. But it can be scummed. It really is a very useful thing, just a bit nonsensical and the interface is a drag. The engineering tree has some good stuff for grenades. The tech attribute grants you access to a lot of places, too.


You really do wanna plan your build a little. Don't spread too far across different weapon skills. For instance, if I picked assault I'm probably going to focus primarily on AR's, SMGs, tech rifles, and smart AR's. You kinda just want to pick a primary and secondary attribute. Sometimes you can pick up a 3rd, but you have to be careful to stick with the best combat related-perks for your primary fighting style first. Right now I'm using smart AR's so I'm furthest along in reflexes with tech and cool equally far behind. Really, just pick one weapon and maybe two 'styles' of combat that seem appealing, take the two attributes with skills pertinent to them, and use that as your platform. No one skill is any more 'necessary' than the other, if that makes sense.


So yes, you can work a lot of things out on your own, if you have experience with those sorts of mechanics. Though if you do I am sure you will see some... interesting possibilities. It has a decent amount of depth, to the point where it is important to get it right or the fights get drastically more punishing. But a lot of it is about percentages. It wasn't super-well thought through. Fun to tinker with still, but I think the more experienced you are, the funnier how it's all set up gets. Right now it's confusing because on the character menu screen, things don't display as what they are. Like, what the game calculates isn't always what is shown. The reason you see a lot of confusing stuff is because the details are... confusing lol.

What I did, was just disregard care for my character at all the first time. Just pick what feels right at the moment and mostly play through the main quests. Finish the game, and then use what I got from it to build a real character. By then, I had it pretty much worked out. And it doesn't take long if you play only the main stuff. The side stuff is probably more than half of the game.

A few tips starting off would be that if you're serious about building up your character, stay in the part of the game where you're on lockdown as long as possible. Just do not proceed with the main questline after it cuts you loose. You'll only have a smaller section of the city to work through, but there's good stuff in there and it's a good grind to get established on, like really well. ~level 20 you'll cap out on stuff to do and you can proceed with the heist.
 
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Finished playthrough 1 last night. Final boss fight with Adam Smasher was easy peasy slice and dice, especially considering I hit level 50 doing the couple missions after the point of no return.

Went with the Panam/Aldecaldos ending. Felt it was only right since I romanced her. Kind of stupid for you to go through the whole process of getting to Mikoshi (and getting a bunch of people killed) just for Alt to tell you "Hey btw, your body's fucked, let Johnny have it or die". Was a bit confused about that. When she split V and Johnny, she said she turned you into an engram also. In theory, shouldn't that mean your engram could be uploaded back to your body instead of Johnny? Without the whole dying in 6 months thing I mean. If I remember correctly, she mentioned that the relic malfunctions coupled with some other stuff (combinations with chems or something? I forget, it was like 2:45 AM when I sat through that convo) is what's preventing it from being a sustainable environment for your engram. So why is it any different for Johnny's engram? How it was worded made it seem like Johnny would be free to inhabit that body as long as he wanted and that the body dying would only be a result of your engram being reuploaded. Maybe I'm missing something super obvious. He wasn't too thrilled I didn't let him have it and just decided to live out my remaining days with the Aldecaldos. Will have to run through the other endings and see what they're like, but I'll probably get started on playthrough 2 first.

Completely forgot I must've made some choice to piss off Takemura - he told me to rot in hell while the credits rolled. Only person to say anything negative.
 
I keep seeing tech noobs talk about the source code leak, like it means we're gunna get open source versions of witcher 3 and 2077 now.

Nah, we're gunna get mods with viruses in them, pirated copies with bitcoin miners, and potential network attacks to implement those if they can figure out how (update checkers, unused netcode, whatever)
 
Mussels said:
I keep seeing tech noobs talk about the source code leak, like it means we're gunna get open source versions of witcher 3 and 2077 now.

Nah, we're gunna get mods with viruses in them, pirated copies with bitcoin miners, and potential network attacks to implement those if they can figure out how (update checkers, unused netcode, whatever)
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Oh Im sure its full of slop and helpful comments lol. Dats sum ripe froot for the picken. Mhm. Can smell the hax cookin.

Those same motherfuckers will download them and claim hackers ruined modding. More than likely playing on pirated versions. Just wait.
 
milewski1015 said:
Finished playthrough 1 last night. Final boss fight with Adam Smasher was easy peasy slice and dice, especially considering I hit level 50 doing the couple missions after the point of no return.

Went with the Panam/Aldecaldos ending. Felt it was only right since I romanced her. Kind of stupid for you to go through the whole process of getting to Mikoshi (and getting a bunch of people killed) just for Alt to tell you "Hey btw, your body's fucked, let Johnny have it or die". Was a bit confused about that. When she split V and Johnny, she said she turned you into an engram also. In theory, shouldn't that mean your engram could be uploaded back to your body instead of Johnny? Without the whole dying in 6 months thing I mean. If I remember correctly, she mentioned that the relic malfunctions coupled with some other stuff (combinations with chems or something? I forget, it was like 2:45 AM when I sat through that convo) is what's preventing it from being a sustainable environment for your engram. So why is it any different for Johnny's engram? How it was worded made it seem like Johnny would be free to inhabit that body as long as he wanted and that the body dying would only be a result of your engram being reuploaded. Maybe I'm missing something super obvious. He wasn't too thrilled I didn't let him have it and just decided to live out my remaining days with the Aldecaldos. Will have to run through the other endings and see what they're like, but I'll probably get started on playthrough 2 first.

Completely forgot I must've made some choice to piss off Takemura - he told me to rot in hell while the credits rolled. Only person to say anything negative.
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Pretty much any ending apart from devil ending will lead to him saying that I believe.
Theoretically that should be the case yeah, the ending as a whole left a bit meh taste in my mouth to be honest.
Like V could easily live if that was the case, who knows maybe the expansion will lead to a point where you encounter Alt again and they merge V and Johnny to form one engram/being.
 
Hi! I'd like to get in on playing this game, but I have never bought a video game for my computer. The last console I bought was PS3, just so
I could play GTA V....San Andreas was my FAVORITE game. I also liked Medal of Honor Frontline and all 1st person type games.

I've never bought a game for my PC, so any help I can get buying C.P 2077 would be greatly appreciated!

I do have a PS3 type/USB controller that worked for PC games, I think that should be good for now.
My system should be good enough to play this game, not expecting top quality but would like to start playing. (1660 Super GPU)

What kind of controller should I get, and is the downloadable version the best option? (30$ or so).

Thanks!
 
Secret Rival said:
Hi! I'd like to get in on playing this game, but I have never bought a video game for my computer. The last console I bought was PS3, just so
I could play GTA V....San Andreas was my FAVORITE game. I also liked Medal of Honor Frontline and all 1st person type games.

I've never bought a game for my PC, so any help I can get buying C.P 2077 would be greatly appreciated!

I do have a PS3 type/USB controller that worked for PC games, I think that should be good for now.
My system should be good enough to play this game, not expecting top quality but would like to start playing. (1660 Super GPU)

What kind of controller should I get, and is the downloadable version the best option? (30$ or so).

Thanks!
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If your USB PS3 controller works fine for other PC games I don't see why you'd need to buy a new controller. You can also use keyboard and mouse no problem - I didn't find the controls wonky at all.

I'm not even sure that they're selling a physical disc version of the game. All the "physical" copies I see just ship you a box with a download code inside. As far as where to get it, those $30 listings are likely grey market keys, which people have differing opinions on using. gg.deals (I've linked the page for CP2077 specifically) compiles all the prices across the official stores as well as the sketchier keyshops so you can get the best deal.
 
Mussels said:
Oh i've taken many more - it's just that when it comes to joytoys and sex scenes, they aint TPU friendly
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You say that, but I remember a differently styled TPU from just about this period of the year... Strange it comes up now... euhm. Yeah.

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With so much crap going on at CDPR I wonder when the DLCs are coming, I'm just itching for a second playthrough.
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Q3/Q4 or even H1 2022
 
milewski1015 said:
If your USB PS3 controller works fine for other PC games I don't see why you'd need to buy a new controller. You can also use keyboard and mouse no problem - I didn't find the controls wonky at all.

I'm not even sure that they're selling a physical disc version of the game. All the "physical" copies I see just ship you a box with a download code inside. As far as where to get it, those $30 listings are likely grey market keys, which people have differing opinions on using. gg.deals (I've linked the page for CP2077 specifically) compiles all the prices across the official stores as well as the sketchier keyshops so you can get the best deal.
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Thanks, much appreciated. I did see if on Amazon for like 30$, was wondering why so cheap.
I'll keep an eye out for something that seems legit and start my PC game playing. I'm very happy I never bought a PS 4 or the new one.
Much rather put that cash behind a decent GPU someday after I spec up the rest of my stuff just a bit. :toast:
 
How is cyberpunk coming along i bought it at launch and it was a REALLY buggy mess so i refuned are they mostly ironed out yet or should i wait longer
 
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