Ryzen Owners Zen Garden

[8BitZ80]

jelly, some of mine only do -5

i got the first 3 done and then we had 35C ambients so i gave up on anything that made more heat for a while

I wonder if that's to do with the 100MHz extra frequency you get with the 5800X? Also I'm not running any frequency offset, just the standard 4.6GHz max boost.

My Zalman ZM-700SV power supply has copious amounts of ripple (120mV on the 12V rail at full load) and so it's a small wonder in itself as to how it can be stable with a full bore undervolt.

 

[Mussels]

I wonder if that's to do with the 100MHz extra frequency you get with the 5800X? Also I'm not running any frequency offset, just the standard 4.6GHz max boost.

My Zalman ZM-700SV power supply has copious amounts of ripple (120mV on the 12V rail at full load) and so it's a small wonder in itself as to how it can be stable with a full bore undervolt.

I'm running the +200 PBO offset, so i'm lucky to get any negative at all, IMO

 

[Calmmo]

I'm waiting for giga to release a full 1.2.0.0 to finally try pbo, don't trust the current alpha bios enough to try anything.. fancy, altho appart from one funky boot during which bios memory was wiped (??!!) it's been stable for a few weeks now. In my limited time testing for about an hour, +200 was always inferior to +100 and +150 as far as bench scores go.

 

[freeagent]

Didn't know you were in Manitoba.

I think you made the right choice haha. I happened across a Memory Express flyer about 2 weeks ago, $469 3700X. I paid $459 in August 2019......for what was a hot new product at the time...amazing "pricing" in 2021

And then there's my vaporware 5900X on order since November...from how ME and CC are going I don't expect to see it within the first three quarters of this year. Dunno whether to buy a "reasonably" priced scalper 5600X, tough it out and keep waiting on 5900X, or just stick with the ailing 3700X and buy a M27Q monitor instead.

I wasn't feeling so great about my GPU purchase 16 months ago (thought it was a waste of money, and immediately had to RMA it once for coil whine), but with each passing month the absolute comedy show that is GPU availability in Canada is making me feel better and better about my 2060S FE.

I thought I had everything filled out, I guess not!

I think so too! At the time of purchase I think 3700x was 439 and 309 for the XT, which last I looked was 500 from 3rd party.. Crazy.

I would be happy with a 2060S right now

I also did as you asked and let it run overnight with a load on it.. I just reinstalled windows nice to see cores dropping down to 2.2 again

Its cold outside so you can see the furnace at play..

 

[tabascosauz]

I thought I had everything filled out, I guess not!

I think so too! At the time of purchase I think 3700x was 439 and 309 for the XT, which last I looked was 500 from 3rd party.. Crazy.

I would be happy with a 2060S right now

I also did as you asked and let it run overnight with a load on it.. I just reinstalled windows nice to see cores dropping down to 2.2 again

Its cold outside so you can see the furnace at play..

View attachment 188571

Well, if you want a mediocre 3700X you know where to find me as if on cue, ME called me to tell me my 5900X finally showed up after 3 months.

They did previously say that 5600X and 5800X availability is a bit better. I guess the online stock indicator just isn't updated very often. Been hearing stories here and there of lucky stock-watcher folks getting lucky and jumping the queue to pick up 5000 chips.

 

[freeagent]

Well, if you want a mediocre 3700X you know where to find me as if on cue, ME called me to tell me my 5900X finally showed up after 3 months.

They did previously say that 5600X and 5800X availability is a bit better. I guess the online stock indicator just isn't updated very often. Been hearing stories here and there of lucky stock-watcher folks getting lucky and jumping the queue to pick up 5000 chips.

Awesome man congratulations! That does sound tempting.. Enjoy your new toy!

Also, I forgot to mention.. since updating to Bios 1805 my Aura lights are fixed and the Intel Lan connects right away after boot or sleep, instead of a 38s wait.. pretty happy!

 

[tabascosauz]

Leaving the 5900X completely stock, as it's my main rig. It's still really impressive.

I wanted manageable thermals, so from the temps it looks like spending the extra $130 over the 8-core was worth it. Hell, the damn 5900X often runs cooler than the 3700X!



69C in CPU-Z, 69C in every run of R23. All on just an iPPC'd NH-C14S.



And the quality is good too. Core 0 and Core 1 are the best 2 cores, hitting over 4.9GHz effective clock in tests. I guess strict binning for CCD1 on the dual-CCDs really is paying off, even if it's absolutely slaughtering availability for those two CPUs.

Awesome man congratulations! That does sound tempting.. Enjoy your new toy!

Also, I forgot to mention.. since updating to Bios 1805 my Aura lights are fixed and the Intel Lan connects right away after boot or sleep, instead of a 38s wait.. pretty happy!

It sounds like Asus changed something in the most recent AGESA 1200 BIOSes. On one of the memory training reboots it gave me a message that it was updating Aura firmware for a few seconds. No problems so far, but I think the new Aura update broke my G.skill RGB software so now I have uncontrollable rainbow puke on my RAM again.

By the way, 5900X/5950X owners is it normal to see the crappy CCD consistently 3 degrees hotter than the good CCD, at the same clocks?

 

[freeagent]

Man that is sweet, congrats! I had problems with Aura when I used it, the VRM light would do its own thing, very annoying. The only thing that fixed it was when the Aura firmware updated. Happened twice. So this time, it will have to be rainbow puke or off in the bios. I didn't buy the Royals for the lights, I bought them for their "potential" but the G.Skill software works "ok" for me, no real problems.

Cant wait to get a hold of one, fantastic CPU to cap off AM4.

 

[windwhirl]

AMD taking notice of a relatively important amount of users having trouble with USB connectivity on 500-series motherboards:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/lnmet0

 

[Space Lynx]

AMD taking notice of a relatively important amount of users having trouble with USB connectivity on 500-series motherboards:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/lnmet0

interesting, haven't had a single issue in that regard.

 

[KainXS]

I'm struggling with whea's when playing beatsaber, I play for about 30 minutes and I crash out with a whea on the cpu every single session. I tried CTR and can find nothing wrong and memtest and can find nothing wrong, what do you guys do with whea's on ryzen.

 

[Space Lynx]

I'm struggling with whea's when playing beatsaber, I play for about 30 minutes and I crash out with a whea on the cpu every single session. I tried CTR and can find nothing wrong and memtest and can find nothing wrong, what do you guys do with whea's on ryzen.

I have the same mobo as you, I would get crashed if I enabled PBO. disable PBO in BIOS and leave cpu at stock. see if it crashed after that. also is the ram QVL for that mobo? double check. and if it is then turn on xmp, if its not then use the "memory try it" feature. i use the memory try it feature and its worked out great for me. if you get crashes still after that, lower the memory try it feature a little bit.

 

[Mussels]

I'm struggling with whea's when playing beatsaber, I play for about 30 minutes and I crash out with a whea on the cpu every single session. I tried CTR and can find nothing wrong and memtest and can find nothing wrong, what do you guys do with whea's on ryzen.

beat saber aint that demanding, you're having instability at idle/low load - so tweak your voltages higher

 

[ViperXTR]

 

[Octopuss]

What are these bronze sample, silver sample things in CTR? What does it tell me?

 

[windwhirl]

What are these bronze sample, silver sample things in CTR? What does it tell me?

The quality of the silicon. Better samples overclock better.

 

[Octopuss]

I guess most people have bronze then

 

[windwhirl]

I guess most people have bronze then

You just read a guy with a bronze lol

 

[Octopuss]

Well that's why I asked, CTR gave me that result.
but considering I am only interested in undervolting, I probably don't need to care.

 

[WhitetailAni]

Out of curiosity, is anyone else running B350 with Zen 2?
I have an ASUS ROG Strix B350-F Gaming with a Ryzen 5 3600.
Originally had a 1600X, but... well... let's just say that said 1600X has problems fitting.

 

[biffzinker]

Well that's why I asked, CTR gave me that result.
but considering I am only interested in undervolting, I probably don't need to care.

Might want to stay away from CTR 2.0 because of a bug that rams 1.55 volts through a Zen 3 chip such as your 5800.

 

[Space Lynx]

Might want to stay away from CTR 2.0 because of a bug that rams 1.55 volts through a Zen 3 chip such as your 5800.

nice heads up... glad I never tried it. yikes.

 

[freeagent]

A couple of bios versions ago my board would feed my CPU up to 1.55v. No wonder these things were degrading. I can pretty much squeeze max performance out of mine at 1.268- 1.337v. Quite a large difference.. now 1.45 is about as high as it goes if I leave it to do it’s thing. I could run it at 4600 but it needs more than 1.4v and it doesn’t like that too much.

 

[biffzinker]

Yeah yikes, accelerated degradation. There's been reports on twitter, and reddit of chips that had single core boost to 5 GHz that are no longer capable of such.

Also the Prime95 stress test was configured for a light AVX workload not good for finding instability.

Passing it along from @Xx Tek Tip xX that mentioned it.

 

[Space Lynx]

A couple of bios versions ago my board would feed my CPU up to 1.55v. No wonder these things were degrading. I can pretty much squeeze max performance out of mine at 1.268- 1.337v. Quite a large difference.. now 1.45 is about as high as it goes if I leave it to do it’s thing. I could run it at 4600 but it needs more than 1.4v and it doesn’t like that too much.

you might have just lost the silicon lottery is all, but not a big deal. I have been rock solid stable for months now at 1.360v 4625 all core no downclocking, LLC mode 4 on x570 tomahawk. great temps and no crashes. i don't feel the need to go back to ryzen master auto OC or do that other program. prob will leave it like this for as long as it lets me. /shrug i really don't think 1.360v is all that bad i do have -25 offset as well in BIOS, so its actually running slightly less than that. also I OC the SoC to 1.150.