Ryzen Owners Zen Garden

[toilet pepper]

I experienced all those issues when I first got the Aorus B550i board with a R5 3600. My USB headset was cutting in and out, so I tried an analog headset with a mic and it was the same thing. I wasn't using a Gen4 SSD then but was using a 3080. I was experiencing random crashes and hundreds of events in Event Viewer.

I downgraded the bios from F13c AGESA 1.2.0.0 to F12 AGESA 1.1.0.0D and had no crashes since. I still have hundreds of things in Event Viewer though.

 

[Alyjen]

Damn.. that's way worse than my experience. So far 5h in after drivers update & changing pcie to gen 3 and not a single issue. I may leave it like this for a weekend and then change back to gen 4 to be sure this was the cause, or if nothing happens then drivers were guilty.

 

[Mussels]

I've just always clicked the tray icon and switched sound cards on the fly

With few rare exceptions (like streaming DD/DTS over optical which i now just disable) its always let me swap between them easily

The upcoming agesa should solve the sound crackling issues

 

[jormungand]

Hello guys, im upgrading to this and since i know nothing about ryzen i will like if you have time to give me some advise.
im not planning to do some crazy oc to the cpu or the ram just a decent oc if possible and keep things steady.
No idea if reusing my ram (corsair lpx 2x8gb 3000 c15) will be a good idea, if not recommendations are welcome too. thanks
i got the
ryzen 5600x
Msi Tomahawk b550
and gonna switch the cpu cooler for the Vetroo V5

 

[Mussels]

Hello guys, im upgrading to this and since i know nothing about ryzen i will like if you have time to give me some advise.
im not planning to do some crazy oc to the cpu or the ram just a decent oc if possible and keep things steady.
No idea if reusing my ram (corsair lpx 2x8gb 3000 c15) will be a good idea, if not recommendations are welcome too. thanks
i got the
ryzen 5600x
Msi Tomahawk b550
and gonna switch the cpu cooler for the Vetroo V5

That ram isn't great for compatibility with ryzen, but it WILL work - you may just have to raise the SoC voltage if you have issues

Stick with stock, maybe tweak PBO values for the extra 200Mhz boost, if you're gaming. all core OC is for rendering etc, it slows the single threaded performance.

 

[jormungand]

That ram isn't great for compatibility with ryzen, but it WILL work - you may just have to raise the SoC voltage if you have issues

Stick with stock, maybe tweak PBO values for the extra 200Mhz boost, if you're gaming. all core OC is for rendering etc, it slows the single threaded performance.

yeah gaming is the main purpose of my rig, im gonna give it a try to that ram kit and see how works.
meanwhile i have a question or questions ,
installing the latest bios is 1st thing i should do, no?

 

[Mussels]

update BIOS first, right away

That'll help with any RAM issues, too

 

[jormungand]

update BIOS first, right away

That'll help with any RAM issues, too

Ill do, im putting together the system tomorrow morning, i need to download and prepare the usb drive with the bios.
i wanted to make sure im not skipping any step. thanks

its this bios good, says beta version so im wondering if going with a beta version wont bring issues or is best to try the one before
7C91vA61(Beta version)

 

[tabascosauz]

Ill do, im putting together the system tomorrow morning, i need to download and prepare the usb drive with the bios.
i wanted to make sure im not skipping any step. thanks

Should boot just fine if you bought the board in the past few weeks and not last year. 7C91vA3 or later will boot Ryzen 5000 without any teething issues. Probably load up 7C91vA5 on a USB just in case the board did ship with an older BIOS; the upcoming 1202 release AGESA BIOSes should be hitting board vendors soon, so no reason to play the beta game with the "latest" beta 1201 BIOS (7C91vA61).

Not really anything else, cooler looks plenty for a 5600X. The RAM is a bit of an unknown (3000CL15 suggests old Rev.E which honestly you can do a lot worse for Ryzen compatibility, but it could also be a ton of other ICs), there's only one way to find out if it works.

 

[freeagent]

Ohh your gonna like it man.. she's a ripper for sure!

 

[jormungand]

Should boot just fine if you bought the board in the past few weeks and not last year. 7C91vA3 or later will boot Ryzen 5000 without any teething issues. Probably load up 7C91vA5 on a USB just in case the board did ship with an older BIOS; the upcoming 1202 release AGESA BIOSes should be hitting board vendors soon, so no reason to play the beta game with the "latest" beta 1201 BIOS (7C91vA61).

Not really anything else, cooler looks plenty for a 5600X. The RAM is a bit of an unknown (3000CL15 suggests old Rev.E which honestly you can do a lot worse for Ryzen compatibility, but it could also be a ton of other ICs), there's only one way to find out if it works.

ok im gonna download the 7C91vA5 and have it ready, im ready to go for a corsair vengeance rgb 3200 c16 tomorrow morning,
its the only ram bestbuy have in stock, no idea why tha f
or ordering a gskill from amazon in case that ram kit is a pain

 

[tabascosauz]

ok im gonna download the 7C91vA5 and have it ready, im ready to go for a corsair vengeance rgb 3200 c16 tomorrow morning,
its the only ram bestbuy have in stock, no idea why tha f
or ordering a gskill from amazon in case that ram kit is a pain

What G.skill kit? You probably should forgo the the Vengeance RGB, it's at best a sidegrade if anything in both performance and compatibility. Just try to work with your current kit, if it doesn't work out then order something G.skill.

Ryzen has gotten better with memory compatibility with every successive generation, obviously Corsair has probably the worst track record but it's not something you should worry so much over before you've even started.

 

[jormungand]

What G.skill kit? You probably should forgo the the Vengeance RGB, it's at best a sidegrade if anything in both performance and compatibility. Just try to work with your current kit, if it doesn't work out then order something G.skill.

Ryzen has gotten better with memory compatibility with every successive generation, obviously Corsair has probably the worst track record but it's not something you should worry so much over before you've even started.

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any good?? even though ill try mine first of course

 

[8BitZ80]

@tabascosauz

Here ya go:

Seems fine to me. Haven't had a WHEA for a few days but I'm waiting for the next ones to pop up.

 

[tabascosauz]

G.SKILL TridentZ RGB Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) (PC4 25600) F4-3200C16D-16GTZR at Amazon.com

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any good?? even though ill try mine first of course

US? It looks like RAM decided to be expensive again, all the prices for decent stuff are doodoo.

If you end up needing to get a new kit, anything 3200CL16 is going to be just as much a lottery, no point in getting something mediocre if you do have to buy a kit. For more confidence in compatibility try these B-die kits:

G.Skill Flare X Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL14 Memory (F4-3200C14D-16GFX) - PCPartPicker
G.Skill Trident Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory (F4-3600C16D-16GTZKW) - PCPartPicker

Crucial's new Ballistix (BL2K8G36C16U4B/U4W/U4R, black white and red respectively) are $40 cheaper. Good compatibility and OC potential.

Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory (BL2K8G36C16U4B) - PCPartPicker

Scratch the single rank talk, I forgot we're talking about 2x8GB so everything will be single rank. In any event the new Crucial stuff is a good pick if you consider the B-die too expensive (which it honestly is for 2x8GB). A bit less attractive than B-die from a performance standpoint if you were considering 2x16GB, but you're not so it's fine.

@tabascosauz

Here ya go:

Seems fine to me. Haven't had a WHEA for a few days but I'm waiting for the next ones to pop up.

2x16GB kit? Can you snag a photo of the product info sticker on one of the DIMMs, specifically the code string beginning in 042 somewhere around the barcode? Or just jot down the last 5 digits, 4 numbers plus a letter (e.g. B-die would be 8810B, CJR would be 8821C)

Is that 43.6ohm Auto procODT on Asus? Not familiar with what G.skill puts in its 2x16GB 3600CL18, but that procODT looks low for any 8Gb dual rank stick. Usually auto procODT defaults to 40-ish only for single rank sticks, dual rank 8Gb usually goes straight to 60ohm on Asus and Gigabyte. Unless G.skill is using a new Samsung or Micron 16Gb IC, which would explain the CL18 timings.

 

[8BitZ80]

2x16GB kit? Can you snag a photo of the product info sticker on one of the DIMMs, specifically the code string beginning in 042 somewhere around the barcode? Or just jot down the last 5 digits, 4 numbers plus a letter (e.g. B-die would be 8810B, CJR would be 8821C)

Is that 43.6ohm Auto procODT on Asus? Not familiar with what G.skill puts in its 2x16GB 3600CL18, but that procODT looks low for any 8Gb dual rank stick. Usually auto procODT defaults to 40-ish only for single rank sticks, dual rank 8Gb usually goes straight to 60ohm on Asus and Gigabyte. Unless G.skill is using a new Samsung or Micron 16Gb IC, which would explain the CL18 timings.

Yep they're a 2x16GB kit coded as 04213X8821C (CJR). Thaiphoon reads the IC's as Hynix 8 Gb D-die on dual rank modules:

It looks like ProcODT is auto configured, it may be worthwhile bumping it up to 50 or 60 ohms as the next step to see if that changes anything.

 

[tabascosauz]

Yep they're a 2x16GB kit coded as 04213X8821C (CJR). Thaiphoon reads the IC's as Hynix 8 Gb D-die on dual rank modules:

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It looks like ProcODT is auto configured, it may be worthwhile bumping it up to 50 or 60 ohms as the next step to see if that changes anything.

You on a 1200 AGESA BIOS right now?

The sticks should be near-identical to my 32GB Trident Z RGB. Far as I can tell the 042 code hasn't proven to be wrong yet, unlike Corsair's rev number. Same as mine, dual rank 8821C CJR, misidentified as DJR by Thaiphoon. Mine are XMP'd 3600 17-19-19 at 1.35. maybe just a lower bin

4 boards, 3 CPUs, any AGESA, I've never seen my CJR auto to anything other than 60ohms. My dual rank 4Gb E-die runs 53.3, my single rank Bdie 43.6. I'm skeptical that itll solve your WHEAs since procODT usually remedies no-POST or mem instability, but it's something at least

 

[jormungand]

i did all the installation, even clicked on a-xmp profile and got my ram working to 3000, but my worries are now on the temps from the cpu
supposedly the vetroo v5 is reported to run 60-65-70 highest
Even Jayz tested it

my surprise is that im reaching 80-82c like i was using the stock cooler.
the nzxt 510 is not an optimal airflow case but never thought on reaching those temps, even i managed the fan profiles on cpu fan and syst fans and nothing
no idea what im doing wrong or is just the cpu cooler??
tested BFV and Cyberpunk 2077 same temps on both

 

[Mussels]

i did all the installation, even clicked on a-xmp profile and got my ram working to 3000, but my worries are now on the temps from the cpu
supposedly the vetroo v5 is reported to run 60-65-70 highest
Even Jayz tested it

my surprise is that im reaching 80-82c like i was using the stock cooler.
the nzxt 510 is not an optimal airflow case but never thought on reaching those temps, even i managed the fan profiles on cpu fan and syst fans and nothing
no idea what im doing wrong or is just the cpu cooler??
tested BFV and Cyberpunk 2077 same temps on both

I had to scroll up to see the CPU, 5600x

They arent super hot like the 5800x, but i'd not worry about anything under 80C under load
light loads run hotter than you'd expect, since they boost the voltage hard during single threaded stuff

 

[freeagent]

Seems to run cooler than my 3600XT.. I think my kid played a game for a bit.

 

[jormungand]

I had to scroll up to see the CPU, 5600x

They arent super hot like the 5800x, but i'd not worry about anything under 80C under load
light loads run hotter than you'd expect, since they boost the voltage hard during single threaded stuff

is not holding under 80, is going over mostly in bfv is at 81c and staying there. Since i spent xtra for the cpu cooler i feel like was worthless.
i plan to return it and going for this. im still at shock here
i updated my specs, sorry for the inconvenience
https://www.amazon.com/Noctua-NH-D1...child=1&keywords=noctua&qid=1615685088&sr=8-3

https://www.amazon.com/NOCTUA-NH-U12A-Ventilateurs-NF-A12x25-performants/dp/B07PN4RDW3/ref=sr_1_14?dchild=1&keywords=noctua&qid=1615685218&sr=8-14

 

[Mussels]

Get the D15, total overkill!

These chips are heat dense. they'll never read or run as cold as previous gen chips (especially intels) no matter how overkill your cooling is

5600x will do better than my 5800x, but i'd still expect 70C all core load no matter what

 

[freeagent]

Oh yeah.. even with a big cooler they will still hit close to 80 or more..

 

[tabascosauz]

is not holding under 80, is going over mostly in bfv is at 81c and staying there. Since i spent xtra for the cpu cooler i feel like was worthless.
i plan to return it and going for this. im still at shock here
i updated my specs, sorry for the inconvenience
https://www.amazon.com/Noctua-NH-D1...child=1&keywords=noctua&qid=1615685088&sr=8-3

https://www.amazon.com/NOCTUA-NH-U12A-Ventilateurs-NF-A12x25-performants/dp/B07PN4RDW3/ref=sr_1_14?dchild=1&keywords=noctua&qid=1615685218&sr=8-14

I don't think I've completely figured it out yet, but my 5900X by far is hottest in 1-6 core gaming loads only. Nothing else comes close. I have a NH-C14S with a strong iPPC-2000 NF-A14 fan that intakes directly from a vented side panel, with a vented top for natural exhaust as well a NF-A9 out the back. In smaller cases, the C14S can outperform the U12A.

MW 2019: 80-85C, regularly
War Thunder: 78C
Genshin: 73C
Project Reality (!!! frickin 2005 game): 80C

Prime95 Small: 68C
Cinebench: 72C
Cinebench ST: 60C
CPU-Z: 69C
Video encode: 72C

I'm thinking it's the single-core frequency (high enough clocks alone can account for higher temps too, irregardless of Vcore or power) , in combination with extra heat rising from the GPU, that causes the momentary spikes in temperature. It certainly isn't helped by the thermal density.

If you have a second monitor, leave HWInfo open while you play. Chances are, you will see a fleeting 81C on CCD1 every once in a while, but Tctl/Tdie will usually fluctuate in the 70-75C region. It's these spikes that are getting logged in the Maximum value column, but your chip probably isn't sitting at 81C like it seems to suggest.

 

[jormungand]

Get the D15, total overkill!

These chips are heat dense. they'll never read or run as cold as previous gen chips (especially intels) no matter how overkill your cooling is

5600x will do better than my 5800x, but i'd still expect 70C all core load no matter what

70 is understandable but going from reviews and tests from that cpu cooler saying its running a 5900x at 68c top open bench,
wow vs a 5600x i thought i was gonna get those temps or close to 70c in my case at 75F in my house, damn
the stuff flew directly to 81c, like boom directly on my face.
Ive been planning on grabbing the lian li lancool mesh II, i will have options to use aio too ,
like the artic freezer 280 that GN recommends for ryzen cpus or just going air cooling that i always prefer that way.
Since that case has better airflow can improve a little the temps. Ive never like h510 but was a cheap deal i got.