stuttering in almost any game rtx 2070 super, desperate for help

SweetPhilosophy · Apr 4, 2021

I have tried clean OS install on sata ssd (which is there by default), m2 ssd and hdd. It behaves the same. I could try it again these days just to extra debug since you're replying and want to help - I also have a separate thread but nobody replied to me there

Zyll Goliat · Apr 4, 2021

It could be also the network/driver problem,sometimes just a simple driver change can fix the issue...GL

Mussels · Apr 4, 2021

SweetPhilosophy said:
I have tried clean OS install on sata ssd (which is there by default), m2 ssd and hdd. It behaves the same. I could try it again these days just to extra debug since you're replying and want to help - I also have a separate thread but nobody replied to me there

were all those other drives disconnected at the time?
One of my friends had stutter issues that turned into green screen freezes that turned into BSODS... and it was a faulty sata cable. Theres a method behind the disconnect EVERYTHING madness

Hell when you're down to just a mouse and keyboard you try different USB ports, and then different mouse and keyboard - nothing says you cant have a short in your mouse cable

SweetPhilosophy · Apr 4, 2021

Hmm they were disconnected but only the sata cable from the drive. Didn't try unplugging the sata cables from the motherboard - would the motherboard still try to read from a cable that is connected into it but not into a drive?
I guess I will go another round of disconnecting everything and installing the OS on another drive, hopefully it is indeed a cable/drive issue.
The thing is that my stutter is really hard to notice, my friends thought I was crazy when I went to test things out because they didn't notice it, as it is also happening at random times when gaming it was hard to reproduce. In the end they agreed that it is happening because of the FPS drop which is a side effect of it. So if I'm sending my components to warranty they will definitely say there is nothing wrong with them.
It's also strange because I had all the peripherals in my old build and didn't experience anything like this, so it really is a bummer

Mussels · Apr 4, 2021

it shouldnt try and read from the motherboard end - but with a faulty cable you never know

normally i wouldnt advise going the full teardown and isolate due to the work involved but when you're out of ideas, its all thats left
Full on teardown, treat like a new build... BIOS flash and reset, re-seat all components, take it out of the case and test on its cardboard box, etc

This is the janky ass build i'm using to run memtest on RAM at the moment, just to rule out the mobo or IMC being an issue (its suuuupper ghetto, but all parts are confirmed stable)

SomeOne99h · Apr 4, 2021

SweerPhilpspphy, try also running RAM with the default JEDEC timings. A dude posted a reply somewhere here saying he had sutters and then he informed Corsair about it and then they told him to test witgh JEDEC timings. It fixed his problem.
Also, you have been told to fill out the specs more that once but you choose to ignore it. Good mate.

64K · Apr 4, 2021

@SweetPhilosophy just left click on your name in top right corner of screen and then click on System Specs and you can fill them in.

P4-630 · Apr 4, 2021

64K said:
@SweetPhilosophy just left click on your name in top right corner of screen and then click on System Specs and you can fill them in.

@SweetPhilosophy

https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/account/specs

Mussels · Apr 4, 2021

TechPowerUp Forums

^ system specs link (those of us helping in multiple threads and coming here on multiple days after living our lives really do benefit from instant access to your specs)

mclaren85 · Apr 4, 2021

use "emptystandbylist". will solve stuttering

Empty Standby List

EmptyStandbyList.exe is a command line tool for Windows (Vista and above) that can empty: process working sets, the modified page list, the standby lists (priorities 0 to 7), or the priority 0 stan…

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don't forget to create task which executes this app every 5 minutes.

Mussels · Apr 4, 2021

You might want to explain what that does and why

SomeOne99h · Apr 4, 2021

SomeOne99h said:
Go to this thread and read:

[Feature Request] Set Message-Signaled Interrupts

Requesting ability to enable message-signaled interrupts on GPU and related devices (sound, USB-C) after driver installation is complete. On each driver install, Nvidia resets a registry key which disables MSI and forces devices to fall back to legacy INTx mode, presumably for compatibility...

www.techpowerup.com

Download

NVCleanstall v1.18.0 Download

NVCleanstall lets you customize the NVIDIA GeForce Driver package by removing components that you don't need (or want). This not only keeps things ti

www.techpowerup.com

Then try to enable Message-Signaled Interrupts. Or you could just do it the easy and fast way. Get "MSI_util_v3.exe" posted by Solaris17 in that thread (NOT MSI Mode Utility.exe that was posted by TikiThorsen) and then enable the setting in the fly, without the need to reinstall graphics drivers and all of that. But you need to restart for the settings to take effect. (You will see a tab about priority, don't change that.)

The post:

[Feature Request] Set Message-Signaled Interrupts

Requesting ability to enable message-signaled interrupts on GPU and related devices (sound, USB-C) after driver installation is complete. On each driver install, Nvidia resets a registry key which disables MSI and forces devices to fall back to legacy INTx mode, presumably for compatibility...

www.techpowerup.com

^SweetPhilosophy, Try that too ^-^

You might want to explain what that does and why

From what I know, RAMMap from Sysinternals (in Microsoft) does have that option with . It does remove all cached memory plus page file contents. The "theroy" is that if all RAM already used for caching, firing a game in that situation may lead the system to get busy removing the filled up space in RAM continuously to give memory for the game. I could be totally wrong about that.

But why you need to do that every 5 minutes?? you will actually slow down the system, forcing it to re-cache and rewrite the page file causing unnecessary wear and tear on the SSD!!

SweetPhilosophy · Apr 4, 2021

@Mussels looking good, will try to strip it like that and try it out, I was planning on doing that but I tried to postpone it as long as possible just because of the hassle it involves. Also added system specs to profile

first time someone tells me about that
@mclaren85 I have tried using EmptyStandByList as a task as well as using Intelligent Standby List Cleaner as well as using RAMMap and the stutter is still present.
@SomeOne99h I have also tried running ram at JEDEC speeds as well as with DOCP activated, the stutter is still present, the only difference would be a performance loss when I don't have DOCP activated. I have also filled in my specs on profile

it was the first time someone told me to it and just now read the replies, I didn't ignore it

Edit: Also tried checking for MSI on my GPU but it was already set

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stuttering in almost any game rtx 2070 super, desperate for help

SweetPhilosophy

Zyll Goliat

Mussels

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SweetPhilosophy

Mussels

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SomeOne99h

64K

P4-630

Mussels

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mclaren85

Empty Standby List

Mussels

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SomeOne99h

[Feature Request] Set Message-Signaled Interrupts

NVCleanstall v1.18.0 Download

[Feature Request] Set Message-Signaled Interrupts

SweetPhilosophy

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