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I would take it but I don't meet the requirements (and my dad doesn't want me getting anymore computers right now).

Ah, I see people are showing off their GPU collection.
Here's my BFG 6800 Ultra OC.
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Yes I reconnected the fan.

It's going to be in my XP gaming rig (along with a 3.4 GHz P4 HT Prescott, an ASUS P4C800-E Deluxe, 3GB of DDR 400, and an Ageia PhysX PPU).

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I figured I'd mention that it was repasted with MX-4.
 
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I would take it but I don't meet the requirements (and my dad doesn't want me getting anymore computers right now).

Ah, I see people are showing off their GPU collection.
Here's my BFG 6800 Ultra OC.
View attachment 199455
Yes I reconnected the fan.

It's going to be in my XP gaming rig (along with a 3.4 GHz P4 HT Prescott, an ASUS P4C800-E Deluxe, 3GB of DDR 400, and an Ageia PhysX PPU).

EDIT:
I figured I'd mention that it was repasted with MX-4.
Mine will look like this (I know as I owned it previously but as stupid I am, I sold it. Now I'll be getting it back.)

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Oh man. That 'natural' layout keyboard give me a headache just thinking about it. Couldn't stand them. :twitch:

haha still have to try, but looking at it gives me the idea that I would probably break my wrists using it :D
the cool thing here is that it's from like 1996, and brand new ;)
 

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I've tried those natural keyboards few times and they're actually pretty damn fine.
 

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Not everyone can use them. I have huge hands and it hurts to use them. You wouldn't think it would, but it does.
Dunno do I have that big hands, though older Playstation Dualshock controllers (DS1-DS3) feel kinda tiny for my hands as an adult.
 

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I could never use them, they were very uncomfortable.
Gimme a clone of a Xbox One gamepad with universal compatibility (PC/PS2/PS3/Xbox 360/One and newer ones) and I'd never complain about controllers ever. :D
 
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Are you sure about that?
I tried it in a laptop with an i7 and because of it's age ThrottleStop wouldn't work with that CPU.
I use Throttlestop 4.0 There's a link in my sig. to prove it works.
 
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Gimme a clone of a Xbox One gamepad with universal compatibility (PC/PS2/PS3/Xbox 360/One and newer ones) and I'd never complain about controllers ever. :D
Interestingly, and ironically, I have a mini XB360 controller that fits perfectly and very comfortably in my hands. Been using it for years.
IMG_20210506_142825.jpg

I use Throttlestop 4.0 There's a link in my sig. to prove it.
Right! With ThrottleStop, use old versions of it for older hardware.
 

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Interestingly, and ironically, I have a mini XB360 controller that fits perfectly and very comfortably in my hands. Been using it for years.
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Right! With ThrottleStop, use old versions of it for older hardware.
I kinda like wired gamepads more :)

My hand next to a Dualshock 3

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The reason I'm confident the QX6800 will work is because those old boards supported PentiumD CPUs and won't choke on a 130W CPU. Even a Dell Optiplex 745 can OC one of those.
 

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See, you've got smaller hands. The ergonomics are very different for you. So the MS Natural KB and PS controllers will be a very different experience for you and people with hands like yours.
Tho still older PS controllers feel small. :laugh:
 
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Tho still older PS controllers feel small. :laugh:
All PlayStation controllers up to the DualSense (havent tried it, can't comment) are pretty terrible ergonomically unless you have very small hands.
 
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All PlayStation controllers up to the DualSense (havent tried it, can't comment) are pretty terrible ergonomically unless you have very small hands.
If you think about it, Sony was making a controller that fit the hands of most people in the world. Most of the worlds population(about 73%) is less than 5'7" tall and have smaller hands. The rest of us have to live with the design. Of course then again, my huge hands and that mini-XB360 controller are completely unintuitive...
 
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If you think about it, Sony was making a controller that fit the hands of most people in the world. Most of the worlds population(about 73%) is less than 5'7" tall and have smaller hands. The rest of us have to live with the design. Of course then again, my huge hands and that mini-XB360 controller are completely unintuitive...
Well, according to MS's research their controllers are designed to fit the vast majority of hand sizes globally, and is by no means skewed towards larger ones. Of course I have no idea if their hand size data is good, but there's little reason to suspect it isn't. And their controllers are a bit bigger. Though more importantly, they're shaped in a way that actually fits human hands far better.
 

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All PlayStation controllers up to the DualSense (havent tried it, can't comment) are pretty terrible ergonomically unless you have very small hands.
And after I laid my hands first time on a X360 controller, I can't go back on that symmetrical analog stick placement. I mean, it feels weird tho I spent my childhood and early teens with a dualshock/dualshock2. :D

If you think about it, Sony was making a controller that fit the hands of most people in the world. Most of the worlds population(about 73%) is less than 5'7" tall and have smaller hands. The rest of us have to live with the design. Of course then again, my huge hands and that mini-XB360 controller are completely unintuitive...
Japanese version of the original pre-dualshock1 PS controller is 10% smaller than the US/EU version. Now talk about a small PS gamepad!
 
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I'm getting ready to do some retro computing. I ordered some 4GB DDR2 800 CL5 modules. Set of 4. I have some old Dells with x38 chipset that can handle 16GB of those. T3400 workstation and XPS420. Both BTX mid towers and locked BIOS. I think I'll do some BSEL tapemod explorations first since the 400fsb is supposedly hiding in there somewhere. I think I'l get a CPU running that I know can't handle the 400FSB directly, and underclock the multiplier with Throttlestop to get the tapemod running, and then work my way back up to whatever is possible at the stock Voltage. This will get me a baseline for locked CPUs. Then I'll get "serious" with some Core 2 Extremes.
Another thing I have sitting around are some Dell Optiplex XE Desktops. XE stands for Extreme Environment. They actually had a snorkel kit to pipe air to these things if they got built into a cabinet.
4 phase VRM in a BTX Optiplex DT has got me curious. I also have a few E6500K sitting around. Unlocked LGA775 Pentium 2 core CPUs from China. I used to tell people at Tomshardware how to install full height GPUs in Dell Optiplex DT systems. Now it's time to try it myself. Probably zero nostalgia points here. Dual NICs, PS2 ports, and extra PCIe x1 slots in various places. Also a 24V USB port. Not your secretary's Optiplex. I already started to convert that 24V rail to run a GTX1060 3GB in this thing.
 

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I'm getting ready to do some retro computing. I ordered some 4GB DDR2 800 CL5 modules. Set of 4. I have some old Dells with x38 chipset that can handle 16GB of those. T3400 workstation and XPS420. Both BTX mid towers and locked BIOS. I think I'll do some BSEL tapemod explorations first since the 400fsb is supposedly hiding in there somewhere. I think I'l get a CPU running that I know can't handle the 400FSB directly, and underclock the multiplier with Throttlestop to get the tapemod running, and then work my way back up to whatever is possible at the stock Voltage. This will get me a baseline for locked CPUs. Then I'll get "serious" with some Core 2 Extremes.
Another thing I have sitting around are some Dell Optiplex XE Desktops. XE stands for Extreme Environment. They actually had a snorkel kit to pipe air to these things if they got built into a cabinet.
4 phase VRM in a BTX Optiplex DT has got me curious. I also have a few E6500K sitting around. Unlocked LGA775 Pentium 2 core CPUs from China. I used to tell people at Tomshardware how to install full height GPUs in Dell Optiplex DT systems. Now it's time to try it myself. Probably zero nostalgia points here. Dual NICs, PS2 ports, and extra PCIe x1 slots in various places. Also a 24V USB port. Not your secretary's Optiplex. I already started to convert that 24V rail to run a GTX1060 3GB in this thing.
Sounds interesting, tho a real good board would be a more interesting platform. Anyway, I'll follow ur 775 adventures. :D
 
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I just like doing things I haven't seen done a hundred times before. At userbenchmark no one has added a discrete GPU or overclocked the Opti XE at all. BTX was made for VRM cooling and clock speed. They just all have locked BIOS or CPU power limits to contend with. I'm hoping it will go well past 4GHz as an unlocked 2 core. The Midtowers already go 4.15GHz easily with a QX9650 and stock cooling. Hopefully I can squeeze some more out of those too. My other 4 core BTX went 4GHz with a 65nm quad core. 4 phase VRM with an unlocked 45nm 2 core??? Dell went to a lot of trouble to make the XE tough as hell. Will that turn into a decent overclock? Only one way to find out.
 
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