X79 and/or rampage IV OC'ing thread for those of us still left....

[pevac]

Careful with that. With a missing PCIe slot and all the pins still in place, you either need to cut or desolder them to ensure no shorts take place. That assumes the board works perfectly otherwise, as claimed.. The seller does have 100% feedback so it might be legit..

I'm not taking it, I've already set it if someone wants it, I already have one

 

[bobbybluz]

Careful with that. With a missing PCIe slot and all the pins still in place, you either need to cut or desolder them to ensure no shorts take place. That assumes the board works perfectly otherwise, as claimed.. The seller does have 100% feedback so it might be legit..

When I see things like that I wonder what happened to cause the damage. Ripping an entire PCIe mount off isn't an easy task plus makes me wonder what other abuse that board was subjected to. Caveat emptor.

 

[lexluthermiester]

When I see things like that I wonder what happened to cause the damage. Ripping an entire PCIe mount off isn't an easy task plus makes me wonder what other abuse that board was subjected to.

I've seen it a few times. Transporting a PC with a heavy GPU without much support can easily break a slot.(Here's a tip, when you transport a PC with a heavy GPU, lay the system down with the motherboard laying down flat.)

 

[dalekdukesboy]

https://www.aquatuning.us/water-cooling/radiators/radiators-active/?p=1&o=4&n=25 Oh I really likes me some of these....SOOO tempting!

 

[drizzler]

https://www.aquatuning.us/water-cooling/radiators/radiators-active/?p=1&o=4&n=25 Oh I really likes me some of these....SOOO tempting!

I like them very much, too ;D But i bought them all used. For some reason you can find them cheap compared to brandnew in the european / german market, even the bottom 420rad comes like new for 65 euros b-ware from a reseller. The only thing that concerns me is that the pump module is an older eheim 600 and this is EOL and i am still not able to find a 12v version for replacement if needed.

 

[dalekdukesboy]

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I like them very much, too ;D But i bought them all used. For some reason you can find them cheap compared to brandnew in the european / german market, even the bottom 420rad comes like new for 65 euros b-ware from a reseller. The only thing that concerns me is that the pump module is an older eheim 600 and this is EOL and i am still not able to find a 12v version for replacement if needed.

Wow, that's some bunch of cooling Rad service there....

 

[bobbybluz]

My second Sabertooth X79/E5 1680 V2 transplant has turned into another build after I scored a Coolermaster Cosmos II case off the local Craigslist for $20 last week. I needed more SATA III ports for drives so I bought one of these to try out. I just saw the price has jumped from the $32 I paid five days ago to $39. This adapter had the best ratings of those I read before buying it. Of course since it's off Amazon Prime if I don't like it I can return it for a full refund. Amazon.com: SATA Card 4 Port with 4 SATA Cables, 6 Gbps SATA 3.0 Controller PCI Express Expression Card with Low Profile Bracket Support 4 SATA 3.0 Devices: Industrial & Scientific

 

[Zyll Goliat]

My second Sabertooth X79/E5 1680 V2 transplant has turned into another build after I scored a Coolermaster Cosmos II case off the local Craigslist for $20 last week. I needed more SATA III ports for drives so I bought one of these to try out. I just saw the price has jumped from the $32 I paid five days ago to $39. This adapter had the best ratings of those I read before buying it. Of course since it's off Amazon Prime if I don't like it I can return it for a full refund. Amazon.com: SATA Card 4 Port with 4 SATA Cables, 6 Gbps SATA 3.0 Controller PCI Express Expression Card with Low Profile Bracket Support 4 SATA 3.0 Devices: Industrial & Scientific

Hey @bobbybluz can you do me a favour as we have the same Sabertooth mobo and you also have R9 Fury I notice that in Gpu-z my Fury working on PCIe Gen2 instead of PCIe Gen3 not sure why is that generally is not a big deal as everything seems to work fine it's just annoys me ...so PLS. can you check that on your setup

 

[flatty]

Hey @bobbybluz can you do me a favour as we have the same Sabertooth mobo and you also have R9 Fury I notice that in Gpu-z my Fury working on PCIe Gen2 instead of PCIe Gen3 not sure why is that generally is not a big deal as everything seems to work fine it's just annoys me ...so PLS. can you check that on your setup

What CPU you have? Sandy's "know" just 2.0, Ivy's handle 3.0

 

[Zyll Goliat]

What CPU you have? Sandy's "know" just 2.0, Ivy's handle 3.0

No it's Ivy-Bridge Xeon 2697V2.....I read that Sandy is known to have some issues with this but it's suppose to work fine on Ivy...
Also I checked everything else as I have one more GPU in the 3rd slot some old Matrox card that I am using for 2 side monitors but when I pull that card out it's still exactly the same thing....not sure if this is Win10 issue,bug or what....That's why I am asking @bobbybluz he have same mobo and same GPU...so we will see

 

[flatty]

Im curious too ) (I have in a box a full X79 setup, who knows when I will install it)

 

[bobbybluz]

Hey @bobbybluz can you do me a favour as we have the same Sabertooth mobo and you also have R9 Fury I notice that in Gpu-z my Fury working on PCIe Gen2 instead of PCIe Gen3 not sure why is that generally is not a big deal as everything seems to work fine it's just annoys me ...so PLS. can you check that on your setup

Set to Gen 3 but running at 8X no matter what I try. The one in a X99 rig is running at 16X, my Z390 one is back to 8X after a warranty trip back to Asus for something else. That had been running at 16X before I sent it in.

 

[Zyll Goliat]

Set to Gen 3 but running at 8X no matter what I try. The one in a X99 rig is running at 16X, my Z390 one is back to 8X after a warranty trip back to Asus for something else. That had been running at 16X before I sent it in.

Strange....I have 16x but it's Gen2 in theory GEN2 X16 or GEN3 X8 are more or less exactly the same PCIe link speed with 5GT/s...maybe that's the mobo limit or something it would be interesting if some other people in here can check this out also....What mobo bios version you have?

 

[bobbybluz]

Strange....I have 16x but it's Gen2 in theory GEN2 X16 or GEN3 X8 are more or less exactly the same PCIe link speed with 5GT/s...maybe that's the mobo limit or something it would be interesting if some other people in here can check this out also....What mobo bios version you have?

Whatever the last BIOS Asus had for it.

 

[Zyll Goliat]

Whatever the last BIOS Asus had for it.

Hmm that's should be 4801(beta)....I have that bios also but I get the modded vers. so that NVME could be recognized I also tried with 4701(modded also)and it is the same thing......

 

[bobbybluz]

Hmm that's should be 4801(beta)....I have that bios also but I get the modded vers. so that NVME could be recognized I also tried with 4701(modded also)and it is the same thing......

I have three different GPU's to try out when I do the new build in a few days. The Fury X, a 390 Nitro and a XFX R9 290X. I'll try all of them and see if any do 16X. I don't want to open up my main X79 rig to swap parts out at the moment, it's running too well to fux0r with.

 

[Zyll Goliat]

I also tried other programs beside the GPU-Z and it's the more or less the same.....SISANDRA reports that is PCIE GEN 3 X16 but it works on 5gbs speed....pic bellow
And again it's not a big deal as everything working perfectly fine...results in benchmarks are way above average,games and other 3d apps totally no prob....it's just annoy's me

 

[drizzler]

I also tried other programs beside the GPU-Z and it's the more or less the same.....SISANDRA reports that is PCIE GEN 3 X16 but it works on 5gbs speed....pic bellow
And again it's not a big deal as everything working perfectly fine...results in benchmarks are way above average,games and other 3d apps totally no prob....it's just annoy's me

Have you already tried a bifurication enabled mod bios for your x79 sabertooth? this will not fix your problem right away but you have some more playrooom / options with the pcie distribution and some pcie related options that maybe can fix the issue. The hidden system agent menue has to be enabled too.

You can find a guide here : https://www.win-raid.com/t4252f16-GUIDE-Adding-Bifurcation-Support-to-ASUS-X-UEFI-BIOS.html

but i think there is some uefi already downable with unlocking everything (but maybe with spectre / meltdown microdode integrated)

 

[Zyll Goliat]

Have you already tried a bifurication enabled mod bios for your x79 sabertooth? this will not fix your problem right away but you have some more playrooom / options with the pcie distribution and some pcie related options that maybe can fix the issue. The hidden system agent menue has to be enabled too.

You can find a guide here : https://www.win-raid.com/t4252f16-GUIDE-Adding-Bifurcation-Support-to-ASUS-X-UEFI-BIOS.html

but i think there is some uefi already downable with unlocking everything (but maybe with spectre / meltdown microdode integrated)

Yes...Actually since I get this X79 setup I was always using those modded bios versions with bifurication enabled first I was using 4801 and now I am using 4701 with bifurication enabled......
P.S.HW INFO also reports PCIe gen3 X16 but current speed 5gbs(pic bellow)

 

[bobbybluz]

My second mobo has the modded 4801 BIOS.

 

[Zyll Goliat]

My second mobo has the modded 4801 BIOS.

After reading a bit that topic about modded bios seems like people prefer modded 4701 saying that is overall more stable bios only difference between 4701 and 4801 is actually support for 128 gb of Ram that is possible to install on 4801 bios....of course IF you can find those 16gb sticks........

 

[dalekdukesboy]

Set to Gen 3 but running at 8X no matter what I try. The one in a X99 rig is running at 16X, my Z390 one is back to 8X after a warranty trip back to Asus for something else. That had been running at 16X before I sent it in.

Dumb question but...are you sure it's in a 16x slot vs an 8x?

 

[bobbybluz]

Dumb question but...are you sure it's in a 16x slot vs an 8x?

Yes, the top one.

 

[dalekdukesboy]

Yes, the top one.

Ok, I figured as such, but I've actually moved card back and forth for various reasons and wondered what was "wrong" lol.

 

[Zyll Goliat]

I have three different GPU's to try out when I do the new build in a few days. The Fury X, a 390 Nitro and a XFX R9 290X. I'll try all of them and see if any do 16X. I don't want to open up my main X79 rig to swap parts out at the moment, it's running too well to fux0r with.

Well...I don't know anymore I tried everything....I even changed PCI bus drivers and PCI Express drivers in Device manager....and nothing changed....same thing most programs will still show PCIe Gen3 but current speed is still 5gt/s.....If you figure something let me know

My second mobo has the modded 4801 BIOS.

OK @bobbybluz I finally figure what was the cause and why was limitation on PCIe 2 gen speeds.....When I load optimized default settings without any tweaking and OC and just get into the win seems like everything working normal..

Now I need to go 1 by 1 thing in tweaking and OC to see what is actually the cause/issue with this......

Ok the root of the problem at least in my case is the BCLK OC....seems that after 104 on BCLK PCIE gen3 get downgraded automatically on PCIE gen2 for some reason if I could guess its probably because of the PCIe speed limit as with bclk OC PCIe get OC as well....never mind I did some GPU benchmark testing and results are more less identical so I guess I will prefer to have my CPU on higher speed with PCIe Gen2 instead ///Problem Solved///