What's your latest tech purchase?

[iBruceypoo]

I just received an important visual message from the ROG Gods: "your DDR4 is running WAY TOO HOT ROG brother"

Apparently, this Coffee Lake DDR4 kit cannot run 1.600volts without overheating.

Maybe they're really just ROG monks.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Hey Phill,

I got too many Z390 Dark boards hangin' around - don't know what to do with them all. lol

Want me to ship you one?

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Cleaning up this test bench chassis for 2022 - either Ryzen 7000 or Raptor Lake.

The Raptor Bench.

...this test bench doesn't look very scary.

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There is a debate going on this side of the screen....

Is that a bobble-head of Einstein or Michio Kaku? From that angle it's tough to tell..

 

[freeagent]

So.. this is a little stronger than my 5600X..

With my old 3600XT and my 5600X to get 4 sticks running at 1900 was a serious pain in the balls, more so on the 5600X.. I had to tune and test and tweak.. and fail.. ugh!

This one just does it right out of the box with no tuning.. I did try running at all core 4600 1.25 and she went no problem. 4700 gave a bunch of errors at 1.25v. I didn't try to give it more. Also, I have seen this board feed 1.5v+ like a complete savage. I am guessing its because of the extra 5600 taped to it..? It never did that with my 5600. I might have seen 1.45v once or twice. Seeing 5150MHz is cool.. but it would be even cooler if it did it all the time

Speaking of which.. its not too bad to cool. I thought it would have been way worse. I will play around some more as I get time and post some results

 

[Valantar]

So.. this is a little stronger than my 5600X..

With my old 3600XT and my 5600X to get 4 sticks running at 1900 was a serious pain in the balls, more so on the 5600X.. I had to tune and test and tweak.. and fail.. ugh!

This one just does it right out of the box with no tuning.. I did try running at all core 4600 1.25 and she went no problem. 4700 gave a bunch of errors at 1.25v. I didn't try to give it more. Also, I have seen this board feed 1.5v+ like a complete savage. I am guessing its because of the extra 5600 taped to it..? It never did that with my 5600. I might have seen 1.45v once or twice. Seeing 5150MHz is cool.. but it would be even cooler if it did it all the time

Speaking of which.. its not too bad to cool. I thought it would have been way worse. I will play around some more as I get time and post some results

The 2-CCD Ryzens are often easier to cool than 1-CCD ones simply due to the heat being spread across twice the die area, alongside slightly better binned silicon (at least for CCD0).

Also, aren't software reported boost voltages for Ryzen 3000/5000 kind of nonsense? I seem to remember reading that reported voltages are what the VRM is asked to supply, but that the CPU steps it down to what is actually needed on a much more fine grained level. Though I might just be imagining things.

 

[iBruceypoo]

So.. this is a little stronger than my 5600X..

With my old 3600XT and my 5600X to get 4 sticks running at 1900 was a serious pain in the balls, more so on the 5600X.. I had to tune and test and tweak.. and fail.. ugh!

This one just does it right out of the box with no tuning.. I did try running at all core 4600 1.25 and she went no problem. 4700 gave a bunch of errors at 1.25v. I didn't try to give it more. Also, I have seen this board feed 1.5v+ like a complete savage. I am guessing its because of the extra 5600 taped to it..? It never did that with my 5600. I might have seen 1.45v once or twice. Seeing 5150MHz is cool.. but it would be even cooler if it did it all the time

Speaking of which.. its not too bad to cool. I thought it would have been way worse. I will play around some more as I get time and post some results

New Virgin Components always so beautiful!

Good Luck with the ups and downs and adjustments - till you find the glory. It's the same with every new CPU. Finding that sweet spot to processor heaven!

It does exist!

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So apparently I FAILED - to update my AquaComputer AquaSuite software subscription during the pandem and my one and only overclocking cooling single 140mm fan was running at only 600rpm

So I paid AquaComputer $12USD for the software update and installed new Aquaro 6 fan controller firmware and no more overheating DDR4. LIke DuH! Am I Stupid?

 

[freeagent]

Well at least you got that sorted out.. paid updates blow chunks though.. boo.

It runs pretty similar to my 5600X. I did notice a 10c spike between ccd1+2 running occt @ +200 with pbo. Could be my paste job, I was running a bit thin and was at the end of the tube. I can’t bring myself to use AS5 on it so it will do for now. I knew it was thin in that area.. I am at the park with my boys but I’ll grab a screen of it when it’s done.

 

[iBruceypoo]

Well at least you got that sorted out.. paid updates blow chunks though.. boo.

It runs pretty similar to my 5600X. I did notice a 10c spike between ccd1+2 running occt @ +200 with pbo. Could be my paste job, I was running a bit thin and was at the end of the tube. I can’t bring myself to use AS5 on it so it will do for now. I knew it was thin in that area.. I am at the park with my boys but I’ll grab a screen of it when it’s done.

Send us some beautiful 5900X benchmarks TPU brother!

My DDR4 4800Mhz 17 17 37 AIDA 64 latency from earlier today.

Not too shabby considering the Rocket Lake 10ns Gear 2 penalty.

AGAIN below, a software subscription that would not complete the run - because I didn't update (pay them) during the pandem, awww Gawd!

At least the latency is rockin at 46.3ns!

 

[Liquid Cool]

Maybe they're really just ROG monks.

I don't know about the ROG monks, but seeing blue and red together on your motherboard brought me a moment or two of Zen.

When I see red and blue together on a motherboard it brings me back to my favorite combo. The Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3P with four 2GB sticks of Mushkin RedLine.

Those were simpler times.

You made me smile.

Thanks....

Liquid Cool

 

[iBruceypoo]

I don't know about the ROG monks, but seeing blue and red together on your motherboard brought me a moment or two of Zen.

When I see red and blue together on a motherboard it brings me back to my favorite combo. The Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3P with four 2GB sticks of Mushkin RedLine.

Those were simpler times.

You made me smile.

Thanks....

Liquid Cool

So happy to help!

Peace and Love Tech Brother!

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[Aquinus]

My router was starting to die so I got a new one. I have no WiFi 6 devices, so this is really nice. The second 5Ghz band is just for my laptop. I can consistently get >500Mbit on Speedtest over WiFi. Woo!


Edit: For background, the 2.4Ghz on my Linksys died and the 5Ghz wasn't able to sustain much more than 300Mbit, so this is refreshing. Losing 2.4Ghz was rough for the outskirts of the house.

 

[bobbybluz]

4 of these 120 x 120 x 25 150cfm Delta fans should push a nice amount of air through the Cooler Master Cosmos II case I scored dirt cheap. I have 4-pin to Molex adapters for them.

 

[Athlonite]

4 of these 120 x 120 x 25 150cfm Delta fans should push a nice amount of air through the Cooler Master Cosmos II case I scored dirt cheap. I have 4-pin to Molex adapters for them.

At full tit you'll go deaf

So apparently I FAILED - to update my AquaComputer AquaSuite software subscription during the pandem and my one and only overclocking cooling single 140mm fan was running at only 600rpm

So I paid AquaComputer $12USD for the software update and installed new Aquaro 6 fan controller firmware and no more overheating DDR4. LIke DuH! Am I Stupid?

WTF who pays for an update for this sort of software that's ridiculous nonsense from aquacomputer

 

[lexluthermiester]

WTF who pays for an update for this sort of software that's ridiculous nonsense from aquacomputer

Right there with you. I wouldn't pay for it to begin with as it is expected to be included with the hardware.

 

[Space Lynx]

Send us some beautiful 5900X benchmarks TPU brother!

My DDR4 4800Mhz 17 17 37 AIDA 64 latency from earlier today.

Not too shabby considering the Rocket Lake 10ns Gear 2 penalty.

AGAIN below, a software subscription that would not complete the run - because I didn't update (pay them) during the pandem, awww Gawd!

At least the latency is rockin at 46.3ns!

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amazing, I'm really surprised my kit gets 49ns at 3800 cas 16. there are some severe diminishing returns with latency specifically.

 

[bobbybluz]

At full tit you'll go deaf

WTF who pays for an update for this sort of software that's ridiculous nonsense from aquacomputer

No, these aren't nearly as loud as the 38mm 252cfm beasts. I have some of those too and these are far more civil, just slightly louder than a 38mm Scythe Ultra Kaze but more cfm plus far better bearings and build quality. The best 25mm thick fans I know of. They only cost me $9 each including shipping from China and they're real Delta fans.

 

[iBruceypoo]

Right there with you. I wouldn't pay for it to begin with as it is expected to be included with the hardware.

The FREE software updates WERE INCLUDED with the hardware when the fan controllers were purchased for $229 way back in 2013 - then sometime later AquaComputer decided "on a whim" to add a software subscription in order to continue use your fan controller.

...and they have refused to update their hardware since 2013, can you actually believe that crazy shiite?

 

[lexluthermiester]

then sometime later AquaComputer decided "on a whim" to add a software subscription in order to continue use your fan controller.

Yeah, that's rubbish thinking regardless of the reasoning...

 

[tabascosauz]

Well at least you got that sorted out.. paid updates blow chunks though.. boo.

It runs pretty similar to my 5600X. I did notice a 10c spike between ccd1+2 running occt @ +200 with pbo. Could be my paste job, I was running a bit thin and was at the end of the tube. I can’t bring myself to use AS5 on it so it will do for now. I knew it was thin in that area.. I am at the park with my boys but I’ll grab a screen of it when it’s done.

Gratz on the chip. More where that came from, remember this?



I highly doubt you messed up the paste. I'm highly skeptical even conductonaut would fix transient CCD1 spikes as they're not sustained.

And even if it "looked" like paste made a difference, it probably didn't unless you tested the exact same load every day for 2 weeks and the spikes never came back. Just unpredictable Ryzen things.

Could just be a characteristic when Zen 3 cores exceed a certain per-core power draw that generally isn't hit on 5600X.

On mine I've just learned to stop looking at my 2nd screen so often

 

[iBruceypoo]

There is a debate going on this side of the screen....
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Is that a bobble-head of Einstein or Michio Kaku? From that angle it's tough to tell..

Yes, that's amazing Albert! And his head does bobble!

It's Computex 2021 Week. Show us some new gear! I'm waiting for the Gskill Trident Z Royal Elite kits (photo below) to drop in silver!

Yea I know buying DDR4 with DDR5 right around the corner is stupid. But I want to make this Rocket Lake build really special, so I'll wait and skip Alder Lake and grab Raptor Lake in 16-18months.

Oh that's so sexy, that's what I want. Come On Gskill Launch these gorgeous new kits!

 

[lexluthermiester]

Yes, that's amazing Albert! And his head does bobble!

HAHAHA! Thank You!! I won that bet! Someone is buying me lunch... I think some Cafe Rio is in order... No, better yet, some Tres Hombres!

 

[freeagent]

Gratz on the chip. More where that came from, remember this?

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I highly doubt you messed up the paste. I'm highly skeptical even conductonaut would fix transient CCD1 spikes as they're not sustained.

And even if it "looked" like paste made a difference, it probably didn't unless you tested the exact same load every day for 2 weeks and the spikes never came back. Just unpredictable Ryzen things.

Could just be a characteristic when Zen 3 cores exceed a certain per-core power draw that generally isn't hit on 5600X.

On mine I've just learned to stop looking at my 2nd screen so often

Yes, thanks for that! It does make more sense now. With a bigger CPU comes bigger numbers everywhere heheh. I am still blown away at how much voltage gets thrown at it. I have seen 1.52v.. It’s completely out of my hands too unless I chop a bunch off the top. It’s does 4600 all core with 1.25v. I haven’t been able to stabilize higher than that. I’ve been testing max single core speed with superpi 32m.. it’s probably not the best for testing but it’s easy to see when it flounders or crashes lol..I posted a sub six minute time that surprised me. I’m still playing around when I get time during the day in the evening is when I get to play

freeagent`s SuperPi - 32M score: 5 min 42 sec 408 ms with a Ryzen 9 5900X

The Ryzen 9 5900X @ 5075.1MHzscores getScoreFormatted in the SuperPi - 32M benchmark. freeagentranks #null worldwide and #null in the hardware class. Find out more at HWBOT.

hwbot.org

 

[Aquinus]

Sooooo, the Netgear ended up being garbage. The 5Ghz was very unstable after being on for a bit. It would slow down and just start dropping packets left and right on the second 5Ghz band. No fiddling got it to work right. So with that said, I returned it and got a Linksys MR9600 instead. Needless to say, it’s a far better device in terms of stability and I'm prepped for WiFi 6 now.



I learned my lesson, stick with what I know works well.

 

[iBruceypoo]

Sooooo, the Netgear ended up being garbage. The 5Ghz was very unstable after being on for a bit. It would slow down and just start dropping packets left and right on the second 5Ghz band. No fiddling got it to work right. So with that said, I returned it and got a Linksys MR9600 instead. Needless to say, it’s a far better device in terms of stability and I'm prepped for WiFi 6 now.

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I learned my lesson, stick with what I know works well.

Woohooooo, Congratulations!

I grabbed that router back on CyberMonday November last year for $169.99 - one day only sale. It was $399 then half price $199 then the Linksys chat rep gave me another $30off if I purchased directly from their website so only $169, "I'm like, ok" lol - super duper discount. I LOVE that router.

 

[tabascosauz]

Yes, thanks for that! It does make more sense now. With a bigger CPU comes bigger numbers everywhere heheh. I am still blown away at how much voltage gets thrown at it. I have seen 1.52v.. It’s completely out of my hands too unless I chop a bunch off the top. It’s does 4600 all core with 1.25v. I haven’t been able to stabilize higher than that. I’ve been testing max single core speed with superpi 32m.. it’s probably not the best for testing but it’s easy to see when it flounders or crashes lol..I posted a sub six minute time that surprised me. I’m still playing around when I get time during the day in the evening is when I get to play

freeagent`s SuperPi - 32M score: 5 min 42 sec 408 ms with a Ryzen 9 5900X

The Ryzen 9 5900X @ 5075.1MHzscores getScoreFormatted in the SuperPi - 32M benchmark. freeagentranks #null worldwide and #null in the hardware class. Find out more at HWBOT.

hwbot.org

Hot diggity, 5073MHz effective clock?? How do you keep on winning the silicon lottery like this??

#6 place amongst 5900X, nice.

I just did 6:12 with PBO disabled, not a point winner that's for sure. I wanna see your benchmate screenshot, but we should really take this to the Ryzen club before a mod complains

Oh you say youre being safe but I see you out here benching 4.7GHz all core @ 86C......you can't hide from me take it easy on the all-core, it's not a 5600X and it's not under water

 

[Aquinus]

Woohooooo, Congratulations!

I grabbed that router back on CyberMonday November last year for $169.99 - one day only sale. It was $399 then half price $199 then the Linksys chat rep gave me another $30off if I purchased directly from their website so only $169, "I'm like, ok" lol - super duper discount. I LOVE that router.

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I'm actually bummed about the Netgear, because I was looking forward to having a dedicated radio just for my laptop. WiFi 6 is probably a better direction to go though as more devices begin to support it. That's an amazing price though. That's a fantastic deal. I salute you, sir!