Realtek Modded Audio Driver for Windows 10/11 - Only for HDAUDIO

[Ferather]

Not tried that one, I do know Razor bought THX, you should try the new one:

THX Spatial Audio - Surround Sound Application (razer.com)

 

[MasterBeiShen]

Not tried that one, I do know Razor bought THX, you should try the new one:

THX Spatial Audio - Surround Sound Application (razer.com)

How does this compare to the spatial mode of DTS:X Ultra? Anyone have any opinions?

 

[xcescxa]

Not tried that one, I do know Razor bought THX, you should try the new one:

THX Spatial Audio - Surround Sound Application (razer.com)

Yeah, but all its is, thx certification. Which razer bought. There's nothing special about it. The bass enhancer on surround pro doesn't increase volume of bass, it makes it deeper and more dynamic, it is better to feel the bass than hear it. Stereo enhancement option is the same as the spatial audio on thx, except this one is better. It's just a business scam for certification.

 

[Ferather]

Good to know. @MasterBeiShen, no idea sorry. I use multichannel speakers, and have no real use for stereo spatial.

 

[Snk3]

@Ferather If you can, I want your help with smart headphone amp, I know it sets level one, two or three according to headphone impedance level, but there is any way to keep it frozen for example, in level 3? I can set manually but it always come back to level 1.

 

[EddyM]

How does this compare to the spatial mode of DTS:X Ultra? Anyone have any opinions?

I don't know how it compares to that, but compared to Dolby Atmos, I'd say it's rubbish (on my laptop at least - that's why I want to get rid of it). Dolby Atmos on the 2019 model was amazing, turning on the "Dynamic" mode immediately made everything sound way better, and when I first tried a game shortly after getting my laptop, I thought someone had left a phone or something on the sofa because I could hear a sound coming from way over the other side of the room to my right. It took several minutes (including getting up and going and searching over there) before I realised the sound was actually being produced by my laptop, in the game. I don't think I've ever heard anything do that quite so convincingly before, and I was amazed it was even possible from the tiny laptop speakers.

Whereas the THX Spatial Audio that Razer have replaced it with doesn't seem to be much more than a basic equaliser. It doesn't have any sort of general enhancement setting like the Dynamic mode in Dolby Atmos, it just has different settings for specific things like "Music" etc which just seem to adjust the equaliser sliders and don't make it sound that much better. And a switch that goes between "THX Stereo" and "THX Spatial Audio", but switching it to the latter just makes everything sound more muffled (so music sounds worse and speech is less clear), while seemingly just adding a tiny bit of extra stereo separation (i.e. things might sound a couple of inches to the right of the laptop, but can still easily tell it's coming from the laptop speaker really - nothing like Dolby Atmos where it sounded like the other side of the room)

It seems like it might be slightly better with headphones (a few more options appear only when headphones are plugged in), but it still doesn't sound particularly good or "spatial" to me. So I think the only reason they've switched to it is because I'm guessing they were paying some sort of fee to Dolby for including Atmos, whereas they've owned THX for a while now and have been producing headsets with it for years, so I suppose it's kind of odd that they ever went with Dolby Atmos in their laptops in the first place.

 

[Ferather]

@Snk3, it sounds like the settings are not being saved, I am not too sure where the app saves it's settings. It might be in the registry, or a file. I will look into it at some point.

@EddyM, I get that effect with Z906, but they are directionally setup, whereas the laptop speakers are always in front of you, I guess this could be true.
If I upmix stereo to cloned 5.1, DTS APO4 is amazing for me and positional speakers, never heard 360 from stereo before.

I also get audio that comes from areas the speakers are not, like distant left-right rear so on.

Edit: Forgot to mention, changing from ALC889, and AMD GPU, AMD is not only a better quality, for also more 3D with APO4.
Edit2: Are you using a original DTS, or the modified DTS (which has more spatial), and does this test include sound unbound?

DTS DCH + SU [Retail]

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DTS DCH + SU Retail [2021.2.6.0]

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[xcescxa]

Hey everyone I found out yesterday I can use this website to test my channels "https://www2.iis.fraunhofer.de/AAC/multichannel.html." On the next page of this speaker setup, you have to uncheck all external speakers, or the ones you don't hear being said on the demo if you want 7.1 or any channel config on stereo or if your just setting up your speakers. When using my headphones the center channel, and sub always sounded watered down when using dts neo pc, and I thought it was normal. After I did this it went away and it sounded way better, also my other enhancements sounded better. Do this for all you devices. Also turn off all enhancements before you use it for more accuracy, then turn them back on. Lol don't use the website on phone tho. It breaks the audio.

 

[Ferather]

Indeed, any missing channels are automatically downmixed to suit the devices channels (in this case 2, stereo).
You can also set multichannel to 7.1, and disable side, which produces virtual side with 5.1.



Also works on encoders such as DTS Interactive, with some code.

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Who was it that wanted to try Atmos over SPDIF? I managed to make some tweaks but have not tested much.

SPDIF Tweak

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DTS DCH Driver for Realtek HDA [DTS:X APO4 + DTS Interactive]

I don't have any popping or crackling with either analogue or digital. What is your current latency? Sometimes Windows will leave uninstalled endpoints in the registry so it might need cleaning. Here I am playing music (Internet stream via Potplayer, 32 bit float), and are running Discord and...

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I can also force send all those formats down Toslink, but cannot decode them.
DDP is max 6.144mbps, and 192khz 2 channels PCM is 9.216mbps.

Potplayer - SPDIF [Microphone]

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Current max bitrate for Toslink is 125mbps, but most OEM's don't fully support it.
My HDMI extractor for example, can send 6 channels PCM down Toslink.

 

[El Zound]

Hello everyone, currently I'm using headphones with the Razer Surround 7.1 config of @IrishCrispy in order to emulate the surround sound on movies with PotPlayer and some videogames and so far it is the best in terms of sound positioning. (Sadly there's some trouble with a lot of noise and static using the razer driver, don't know why). I'm asking myself if it's worth it combine the effects of the Razer Surround 7.1 and enhance them with the Dolby Atmos software or DTS:X.

Before Razer, I used the Dolby Atmos for Gaming of Alan's Driver and despite the volume going up and perceive some details, the "surround effect" was kinda lost. Then I used and tested for some time the DTS DCH drivers with DTS Headphone:X of @Ferather and the sound positioning felt better, but the spatial was perceived with a lot of reverb. (Both softwares were tested a week and used with headphones)

What would you think? Thank you!

 

[xcescxa]

Hello everyone, currently I'm using headphones with the Razer Surround 7.1 config of @IrishCrispy in order to emulate the surround sound on movies with PotPlayer and some videogames and so far it is the best in terms of sound positioning. (Sadly there's some trouble with a lot of noise and static using the razer driver, don't know why). I'm asking myself if it's worth it combine the effects of the Razer Surround 7.1 and enhance them with the Dolby Atmos software or DTS:X.

Before Razer, I used the Dolby Atmos for Gaming of Alan's Driver and despite the volume going up and perceive some details, the "surround effect" was kinda lost. Then I used and tested for some time the DTS DCH drivers with DTS Headphone:X of @Ferather and the sound positioning felt better, but the spatial was perceived with a lot of reverb. (Both softwares were tested a week and used with headphones)

What would you think? Thank you!

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The Fix for the crackling is installing bluestacks and keeping it open all the time. I didnt have to do that, but thats what the fix is.
Also click on the optimized for, and select tiamat 2.2
Thanks again for installing!

 

[Ferather]

@El Zound, thanks. I cant really suggest much, I use multichannel speakers. I guess try what you can and go with what works best for you, there's are quite a few apps with spatial these days.

 

[EddyM]

@Snk3, it sounds like the settings are not being saved, I am not too sure where the app saves it's settings. It might be in the registry, or a file. I will look into it at some point.

@EddyM, I get that effect with Z906, but they are directionally setup, whereas the laptop speakers are always in front of you, I guess this could be true.
If I upmix stereo to cloned 5.1, DTS APO4 is amazing for me and positional speakers, never heard 360 from stereo before.

I also get audio that comes from areas the speakers are not, like distant left-right rear so on.

Edit: Forgot to mention, changing from ALC889, and AMD GPU, AMD is not only a better quality, for also more 3D with APO4.
Edit2: Are you using a original DTS, or the modified DTS (which has more spatial), and does this test include sound unbound?

DTS DCH + SU [Retail]

Watch "DTS DCH + SU [Retail]" on Streamable.

streamable.com

DTS DCH + SU Retail [2021.2.6.0]

Watch "DTS DCH + SU Retail [2021.2.6.0]" on Streamable.

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Sorry I'm not sure whether those questions in the edits were for me or not, but I'm afraid I don't even know what all these acronyms etc mean yet (I'm a complete newbie to this sort of audio stuff).

I have managed to get Dolby Atmos working on the laptop now, by removing everything else and then installing the modded drivers from here. I used "Dolby Atmos Speaker System" (as that seems to be the same as the "Dolby Atmos" my old laptop had, just renamed). To start with it said "Tuned for Republic of Gamers" in the bottom left corner, and Dynamic mode did make things sound better than without, but didn't seem to make things very spatial.

I then found what seems to be the actual "tuning data" etc in the Dolby driver download from Razer (for the old laptop), and after replacing the equivalent files in system32\dolbyaposvc, with some slight modifications, I was able to get the tuning data to be recognised by the new/modded Dolby Atmos version (it even says "Professionally tuned for Razer" in the corner now, and the tuning version/date shows up in the About dialog). Dynamic mode (and the others) sound a bit different from how it did with the initial modded driver (better I think), but for some reason it still doesn't sound super spatial like it used to. Hmph.

So I'm not sure if I'm still missing something. I'm assuming the tuning is what allowed it to do that, i.e. some people at Dolby were sent one of these laptops and then came up with the appropriate tuning for its speakers (and their positioning etc) to produce the mega-spatial effect. Am I wrong in that, perhaps the tuning just does something more basic? Or maybe Razer really have changed the speakers in some way since the previous model, so the tuning no longer matches up well enough for it to work (but that seems unlikely, as the chassis design and most of the hardware seem to be unchanged - it's only really the CPU that's been upgraded from the early 2020 model, which still had Dolby Atmos rather than THX). Although I am using the tuning data for the model before that one (late 2019), as that's what I had before and Razer doesn't seem to have made any driver downloads available for subsequent models (it just says Windows Update will get them automatically). But again, the design of the laptop hadn't really changed there either.

 

[Ferather]

I partly got myself muddled with your response, apologies. I was talking about the dynamic you where speaking of with Atmos, and also got myself muddled with other posts.

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If you ever try DTS:X, you can modify the preset .xml file, and tweak it or set it up differently.



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Boom 3D 1.2.3

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The spatial is fairly basic, but it increases audio quality on ALC (Realtek).

 

[Snk3]

I partly got myself muddled with your response, apologies. I was talking about the dynamic you where speaking of with Atmos, and also got myself muddled with other posts.

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If you ever try DTS:X, you can modify the preset .xml file, and tweak it or set it up differently.

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Boom 3D 1.2.3

MediaFire is a simple to use free service that lets you put all your photos, documents, music, and video in a single place so you can access them anywhere and share them everywhere.

www.mediafire.com

The spatial is fairly basic, but it increases audio quality on ALC (Realtek).

Nice app

 

[El Zound]

The Fix for the crackling is installing bluestacks and keeping it open all the time. I didnt have to do that, but thats what the fix is.
Also click on the optimized for, and select tiamat 2.2
Thanks again for installing!

Hello, @IrishCrispy . Tried to use MP but the forum wouldn't let me reply to you.

I used 2 different versions of windows 10 and it's still giving me the crackling. Certainly, the bluestacks recommendation worked but that's it.

It's actually the best positional software with real 7.1 out there, but the cracking messes it up.

 

[xcescxa]

Hello, @IrishCrispy . Tried to use MP but the forum wouldn't let me reply to you.

I used 2 different versions of windows 10 and it's still giving me the crackling. Certainly, the bluestacks recommendation worked but that's it.

It's actually the best positional software with real 7.1 out there, but the cracking messes it up.

I'll find another fix but keep using bluestacks for now

 

[Ferather]

Plenty of apps and FX systems to try, I prefer DTS APO4, but there are many. I also like DTS APO4 + Boom3D on Realtek, it improves overall quality (DSP in front of Realtek), and plenty of options.
I actually stopped using my Realtek, and use the AMD onboard sound system, its a much better quality, as far as I know AMD dropped their DSP in favour of CU's.

I have an HDMI extractor that essentially converts my GPU audio out (HDMI), into a sound card, minus the inputs (microphone).

 

[XPHOENIX]

I HAVE A LOGITECH WITH USB CONNECTION, AND THE AUDIO DOES NOT WORK, ANY IDEA TO MAKE IT WORK?

 

[nezff]

@Alan Finotty @Ferather
Need some help.
Brand new Asus rog strix z590-a wifi motherboard. Built this new pc about a week ago. Installed a fresh copy of windows. I attempted to install realtek drivers from the asus rog forum page. They installed but no option to use on board audio. No line in or front panel options. Only USB which works fine. Uninstalled everything using driver store and rebooted. Installed asus driver from their page for my motherboard.

ROG STRIX Z590-A GAMING WIFI | Motherboards | ROG United States

ROG STRIX Z590-A GAMING WIFI motherboard features boosted power delivery, an optimized cooling design, PCIe® 4.0, WiFi 6, AI controls and cyberpunk-inspired aesthetics.

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I still can't use the inboard audio because it is not an option in sound settings in windows. I only have realtek USB audio in my add remove programs. The realtek audio console doesn't connect to rpc service. Sonic radar gives error that driver is not installed or system not supported. Am I missing something?

 

[Ferather]

@nezff, the site and driver is purely for USB it looks like, which explains why you get only USB, that's not your fault, it seems they did not issue any onboard driver.
Can you take an image of your device manager, sound devices, my guess is you can install a normal Realtek driver + USB driver.

Dont like the WiFi so close to copper conductive, analogue, eeeeek!

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As a side note I'm pushing for a smart chip design that should allow you to do more with USB, Toslink, faster HDMI (future) and so on.
I see the Audio Device Class 2.0 is 196.6mbps for audio on USB-C audio, USB tends to not have a good range though.

I'm guessing it has a similar distance limit to USB 3.1 G2, around 3 meters?

 

[nezff]

@nezff, the site and driver is purely for USB it looks like, which explains why you get only USB, that's not your fault, it seems they did not issue any onboard driver.
Can you take an image of your device manager, sound devices, my guess is you can install a normal Realtek driver + USB driver.

Dont like the WiFi so close to copper conductive, analogue, eeeeek!

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As a side note I'm pushing for a smart chip design that should allow you to do more with USB, Toslink, faster HDMI (future) and so on.
I see the Audio Device Class 2.0 is 196.6mbps for audio on USB-C audio, USB tends to not have a good range though.

I'm guessing it has a similar distance limit to USB 3.1 G2, around 3 meters?

Yes sir. Im attaching everything I have up until now. This is day 3-4 of me looking for a fix for this.
Im attaching the pics of what you asked and what is inside the folder from asus.

I have the usb driver in my add/remove programs, by I thought I installed a actual UAD driver? reason why realtek audio console wont connect to the rpc service?

@nezff, the site and driver is purely for USB it looks like, which explains why you get only USB, that's not your fault, it seems they did not issue any onboard driver.
Can you take an image of your device manager, sound devices, my guess is you can install a normal Realtek driver + USB driver.

Dont like the WiFi so close to copper conductive, analogue, eeeeek!

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As a side note I'm pushing for a smart chip design that should allow you to do more with USB, Toslink, faster HDMI (future) and so on.
I see the Audio Device Class 2.0 is 196.6mbps for audio on USB-C audio, USB tends to not have a good range though.

I'm guessing it has a similar distance limit to USB 3.1 G2, around 3 meters?

also, linking you to the drivers I tried installing also:

[DRIVERS] Realtek USB Audio (AMD 5xx/6xx/8xx & Intel 5xx/6xx/7xx/8xx)

Hi everyone, - Realtek USB Audio Drivers (UAD - ASUS ROG RTK-Dolby) : Drivers : 6.4.0.2402 WHQL [14/10/2024] Dolby Extension Driver : 9.524.657.1 WHQL [23/05/2024] Dolby HSA SoftwareComponent Driver : 3.30704.740.0 WHQL [02/09/2024] Download : Link ASUS ROG Realtek|Dolby Atmos motherboards ...

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sonic radar and sonic studio install automatically after reboot along with realtek audio console, but i get error message that driver isnt installed.

realtek audio console

 

[Ferather]

'High Definition Audio Device' should say Realtek, right click it, select update driver, select browse my computer, select the unzipped download folder, it should find it.

Let me know if that doesn't work, or you need any further help. I can also unlock DTS APO4 and Interactive on your USB and/or TV, if you want.

DTS:X APO4 + DTS Interactive for Most Devices [USB Supported]

Features: DTS:X Ultra (APO4) | DTS Sound Unbound (APO4) | DTS Interactive (+APO4). Download: https://www.mediafire.com/folder/t56tbrq4bv6r6/DTS+Ultra+Pack Apps: https://www.mediafire.com/folder/tk7ola8b5j6xt/DTS+UWP+Appx Ignore the Realtek app, shared folder. For USB, other, see notes. ----...

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These settings include the Realtek APO FX:

DTS Settings

MediaFire is a simple to use free service that lets you put all your photos, documents, music, and video in a single place so you can access them anywhere and share them everywhere.

www.mediafire.com

 

[nezff]

'High Definition Audio Device' should say Realtek, right click it, select update driver, select browse my computer, select the unzipped download folder, it should find it.

Let me know if that doesn't work, or you need any further help. I can also unlock DTS APO4 and Interactive on your USB and/or TV, if you want.

DTS:X APO4 + DTS Interactive for Most Devices [USB Supported]

Features: DTS:X Ultra (APO4) | DTS Sound Unbound (APO4) | DTS Interactive (+APO4). Download: https://www.mediafire.com/folder/t56tbrq4bv6r6/DTS+Ultra+Pack Apps: https://www.mediafire.com/folder/tk7ola8b5j6xt/DTS+UWP+Appx Ignore the Realtek app, shared folder. For USB, other, see notes. ----...

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These settings include the Realtek APO FX:

DTS Settings

MediaFire is a simple to use free service that lets you put all your photos, documents, music, and video in a single place so you can access them anywhere and share them everywhere.

www.mediafire.com

I dont have realtek anything in device manager, that is my problem.

with the usb realtek audio installed, i still dont see anything Realtek usb audio under the bottom right as an option. others with this board do have that option.

 

[Ferather]

The onboard portion was not showing on the system, so its like its turned off via a setting, faulty, or Windows fails to detect it.