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Alleged AMD AM5 Socket for Zen 4 Raphael Processors Leaks

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AMD is slowly preparing to launch its next-generation processors based on the new AM5 socket. The new lineup of processors will be based on the upgraded Zen 4 architecture that is said to bring multiple microarchitecture improvements and enhancements, equaling to a possible high-performance increase. Today, according to ExecutableFix, the person who provided us with renders of AMD's upcoming AM5 socket designed for next-generation Raphael processors. As we previously reported, AM5 is doing away from PGA and switching to LGA type instead, where pins are delivered on the socket, not the CPU like we used to see with AMD processors.

The LGA-1718 socket, pictured in the renders below, looks like a simple retention mechanism, where there is one metal arm to hold the lid down under pressure. If it turns out to be true, this implementation will be a very positive upgrade over the past PGA socket found on AM4 and before. We can look forward to seeing what AMD will deliver once the launch of Raphael processors gets closer.


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Cleaning bits of thermal paste off this thing is going to SUCK

This looks quite similar to LGA775
 
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Cleaning bits of thermal paste off this thing is going to SUCK

This looks quite similar to LGA775

But I like LGA775. *nostalgia noises*
 
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The exposed caps look really dangerous to handle.
Hope they will put them back within the IHS
 
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It's about time they switched. Better to have the pins on the cheaper part, though I guess there are other advantages to LGA or Intel would not have stuck with it so long. There is also no chance of backwards compatibility this time.
 

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O boy, i want faster to get to that day when AM5 is released. To feel that power from red team ;}. While blue team is gluing things together.
 
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O boy, i want faster to get to that day when AM5 is released ;}. To feel that power from red team ;}. While blue team is gluing things together.
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O boy, i want faster to get to that day when AM5 is released. To feel that power from red team ;}. While blue team is gluing things together.

Glueing things together. lol. If they can get the big/small cores on the same die, how is that glueing? like AMD did?
 
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Finally. It's about damn time we get some kind of CPU retention system. Bending pins on heatsink removals is something that should have stayed in the 90s.
Glueing things together. lol. If they can get the big/small cores on the same die, how is that glueing? like AMD did?
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Cleaning bits of thermal paste off this thing is going to SUCK
Why do you say this ?, it doesn't seem all that different from intel's sockets, with the exception of the exposed caps though...

Just curious :)
 
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(i love these CPU ... alongside my socket 940, Opty 240/250/270/275 in my collection .... and i have 2 mobo for them this time)

oh well it was server/HEDT only for AMD before hehehe

they did maintain PGA with brilliance for long enough nonetheless, not minding the change, if they keep that behaviour (glad that my AM4 system can still have a worthy upgrade if needed, but a complete change if the 3600 hold long enough, will not be a problem either.)

sidenote, hilarious :
also for glueing things together ... Intel bashed AMD (childishly so ...) for using multiple "glued" die ... and now for their next gen they will do it ... but it's the "bee's knees" ... more "knee-jerk move" rather :laugh:



edit... never bent a pin on a AMD cpu, ever since S939 till now... my last bent pin CPU was a ... 486DX :laugh: (twisting and sliding works fine ... )
 

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Why do you say this ?, it doesn't seem all that different from intel's sockets, with the exception of the exposed caps though...

Just curious :)

Bits of excess paste always end up pushed out to the sides by the cooler's mounting pressure. On LGA115x/1200 this just falls on the lower "ledge" of the IHS, and on AM4 this falls onto the ledge between the IHS and substrate, both easily removed with a IPA-soaked Q-tip.

There's no way you can clean the edges on this rumored AM5 design. Paste is just going to accumulate next to the caps. For our sakes I hope AMD extends the IHS to cover up the caps. Or, I hope the leakers eat their words entirely.

I actually very much like the LGA775-like retention mechanism (or rather more like Socket F, either way it's good). imo the lever being detached from the retention plate is better than LGA115x.
 
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Bits of excess paste always end up pushed out to the sides by the cooler's mounting pressure. On LGA115x/1200 this just falls on the lower "ledge" of the IHS, and on AM4 this falls onto the ledge between the IHS and substrate, both easily removed with a IPA-soaked Q-tip.

There's no way you can clean the edges on this rumored AM5 design. Paste is just going to accumulate next to the caps. For our sakes I hope AMD extends the IHS to cover up the caps. Or, I hope the leakers eat their words entirely.

I actually very much like the LGA775-like retention mechanism (or rather more like Socket F, either way it's good). imo the lever being detached from the retention plate is better than LGA115x.
I'm expecting to see masking tape reappear and used for installation again
 
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Cleaning bits of thermal paste off this thing is going to SUCK

This looks quite similar to LGA775
I highly doubt the ihs is like that

No more stuck CPUs to the cooler.
I only had that problem with a 478 p4, after i figured it out, i havent bent a pin since.
 
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I only had that problem with a 478 p4, after i figured it out, i havent bent a pin since.

ah! forgot that one .... found a old 478 system in a dump wanted to took the CPU for my collection .... forgot to twist the cooler ... pulled the cpu straight up ... although no bent pin, i was pulling too straight i guess :laugh:
 
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