ASUS Radeon RX 6600 XT STRIX OC

[london]

ok cutting. by by!

 

[Chrispy_]

AMD clearly doesn't care about DIY dGPU market all that much, 6600XT just proofs that. All AMD had to do, to win A LOT of good will from the PC gaming community, was to set MSRP at $279 and sell some FE variants through AMD website. They would have been praised by the tech media instead they opted for higher margins and GamersNexus' review summary: "Midrange is dead"...6600XT's MSRP is "a joke and an insult".

The sky-high pricing of GPUs means that someone is going to get the money and AMD would prefer it was them instead of scalpers.

I expect heavy official price cuts to both Nvidia and AMD cards once Etherium completes the transition to Proof-of-stake (slated to be December this year, but that's not set in stone yet). Miners will be dumping hundreds of thousands of 6000-series and 3000-series cards onto the used market and a $380 6600XT isn't going to be attractive against a $300 used 3060Ti. Perhaps then you'll see your $279 MSRP on the 6600 and 3060 cards.

The last time ETH miners dumped all their stock onto the used market, AMD and Nvidia couldn't sell what they had in inventory. I was picking up dozens of RX570 8GB cards for £115 each to refurbish older workstations, little more than 50% of their original MSRP. That time it was compounded by delayed overproduction during the first mining boom. This time there was no such overproduction due to COVID-induced supply chain disruption that are still ongoing, so the effect of surplus inventory won't drive prices quite as low, but the used market will still be a far more attractive proposition to many people who would otherwise only touch new cards.

 

[Dr. Dro]

How so? It outperforms the 3060 equal to its MSRP increase, with the 3060 Ti providing slightly better value. The differences are tiny.

This model is particularly expensive amongst the whole batch of already hilariously overpriced GPUs released today. It arrived in Brazil for about triple what I expected to pay for it; and about 10% less expensive than most RX 6700 XT models. That being said; the Strix 6600 XT is more expensive than what the RTX 3080 launched for 11 months ago. I've basically canceled my plans regarding this card, I guess i'll just have to skip this generation altogether, unless I find someone willing to part with their RX 6800 for an attractive price because they have to pay off some debt or whatever.

I also can't help but point out, budget products like the 6600 XT have one express purpose: to incorporate advances in technology and make them affordable. When you take the affordability out of the equation, reasons to own this product quickly begin to diminish, even within certain niches it could otherwise fulfill.

 

[Akkedie]

People were crying their sad little hearts out about MSRP but I'm looking at real prices and a 6600 XT is still 30% cheaper than a 3060. Mining efficiency is also insane. This card is an absolute BANGER atm! Get your order in while you can, this won't last.

 

[neatfeatguy]

Folks, lots of MSRP 6600XT on the Newegg Shuffle.

Still got about 30 minutes to sign up there if you want a chance to get one. Who knows what prices will go up to after today.
Sorry, shuffle entry ended. Good luck to those that may have entered!

 

[Operandi]

This model is particularly expensive amongst the whole batch of already hilariously overpriced GPUs released today. It arrived in Brazil for about triple what I expected to pay for it; and about 10% less expensive than most RX 6700 XT models. That being said; the Strix 6600 XT is more expensive than what the RTX 3080 launched for 11 months ago. I've basically canceled my plans regarding this card, I guess i'll just have to skip this generation altogether, unless I find someone willing to part with their RX 6800 for an attractive price because they have to pay off some debt or whatever.

I also can't help but point out, budget products like the 6600 XT have one express purpose: to incorporate advances in technology and make them affordable. When you take the affordability out of the equation, reasons to own this product quickly begin to diminish, even within certain niches it could otherwise fulfill.

Yeah, this whole generation is broken thats for sure. This is supposed to be a entry level enthusiast, mid-level ish card depending how you look at the specs and where it performs but no matter how you look at it though it does really well compared to competition which uses a bigger GPU and bus so AMD built a good GPU. The problem is the market in general but AMD isn't helping themselves by setting the MSRP where they did.

 

[Valantar]

This model is particularly expensive amongst the whole batch of already hilariously overpriced GPUs released today. It arrived in Brazil for about triple what I expected to pay for it; and about 10% less expensive than most RX 6700 XT models. That being said; the Strix 6600 XT is more expensive than what the RTX 3080 launched for 11 months ago. I've basically canceled my plans regarding this card, I guess i'll just have to skip this generation altogether, unless I find someone willing to part with their RX 6800 for an attractive price because they have to pay off some debt or whatever.

I also can't help but point out, budget products like the 6600 XT have one express purpose: to incorporate advances in technology and make them affordable. When you take the affordability out of the equation, reasons to own this product quickly begin to diminish, even within certain niches it could otherwise fulfill.

The comment I was responding to was about 6600 XTs (in general) at MSRP, not this specific SKU from Asus (and most discussion here seems to be about the GPUs in general, which is logical given that this was TPU's day 1 review for the whole series), and not street pricing either. I entirely agree that the Asus is ridiculously overpriced - but the review itself points that out. $170 on top of an already way too high MSRP is unacceptable. But that also means your comment is arguing against something I have never said.

 

[HTC]

The comment I was responding to was about 6600 XTs (in general) at MSRP, not this specific SKU from Asus (and most discussion here seems to be about the GPUs in general, which is logical given that this was TPU's day 1 review for the whole series), and not street pricing either. I entirely agree that the Asus is ridiculously overpriced - but the review itself points that out. $170 on top of an already way too high MSRP is unacceptable. But that also means your comment is arguing against something I have never said.

Don't be ridiculous:



ASUS is the EXACT SAME PRICE as all the rest ...

 

[Valantar]

Don't be ridiculous:

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ASUS is the EXACT SAME PRICE as all the rest ...

Yeah, is there a difference? I can't see it

 

[kruk]

Contrary to all the pricing misinformation in this thread, the 6600 XT is actually 100€ cheaper in Germany than the RTX 3060. Gigabyte 6600 XT starts at 459,90€, while the cost of Palit RTX 3060 is way higher at 559€:

rx 6600 Geizhals Deutschland

Preisvergleich und Testberichte für rx 6600

geizhals.de

rtx 3060 Geizhals Deutschland

Preisvergleich und Testberichte für rtx 3060

geizhals.de

If you desperately need a card and the used market is dry, then 6600 XT would be the one to get. 3060 is way overpriced and slower.

Also, the availability seems great: https://www.hardwaretimes.com/amd-r...cross-most-global-markets-ample-availability/

Maybe the era of high prices is over and at the end of the year this card will go to 350€ and below?

 

[big_glasses]

Contrary to all the pricing misinformation in this thread, the 6600 XT is actually 100€ cheaper in Germany than the RTX 3060. Gigabyte 6600 XT starts at 459,90€, while the cost of Palit RTX 3060 is way higher at 559€:

rx 6600 Geizhals Deutschland

Preisvergleich und Testberichte für rx 6600

geizhals.de

rtx 3060 Geizhals Deutschland

Preisvergleich und Testberichte für rtx 3060

geizhals.de

If you desperately need a card and the used market is dry, then 6600 XT would be the one to get. 3060 is way overpriced and slower.

Also, the availability seems great: https://www.hardwaretimes.com/amd-r...cross-most-global-markets-ample-availability/

Maybe the era of high prices is over and at the end of the year this card will go to 350€ and below?

it's same here in Norway.
The cheapest 6600 XT is 452€ and the cheapest 3060 (non-TI) (in storage) seems to be 674€ with prices going up very quickly (to 900+ range)
(For ref: these are with taxes on (25% I believe))

 

[HTC]

it's same here in Norway.
The cheapest 6600 XT is 452€ and the cheapest 3060 (non-TI) (in storage) seems to be 674€ with prices going up very quickly (to 900+ range)
(For ref: these are with taxes on (25% I believe))

Roughly the same here in Portugal, judging by the store i posted that pic from, except the difference is slightly higher, with 134€. All prices in Portugal include taxes, always.

I'm not counting those out of stock: only those that have an expected delivery date.

 

[bug]

it's same here in Norway.
The cheapest 6600 XT is 452€ and the cheapest 3060 (non-TI) (in storage) seems to be 674€ with prices going up very quickly (to 900+ range)
(For ref: these are with taxes on (25% I believe))

So... 6600XT is good (buy) because it's only bad (buy), not worse, like the competition. Does this sum it up?

 

[neatfeatguy]

Here's something shitty.

My local Mirco Center has a Powercooler model of the 6600XT in stock, yesterday when I was checking prices online they had it priced at $389 and showed 25+ in stock.

I looked again today and they still show 25+ in stock, but the card is now priced at $439. Not even 24 hours has passed and the price already went up $50 on that particular model. WTF Micro Center.....WTF?

 

[HTC]

Here's something shitty.

My local Mirco Center has a Powercooler model of the 6600XT in stock, yesterday when I was checking prices online they had it priced at $389 and showed 25+ in stock.

I looked again today and they still show 25+ in stock, but the card is now priced at $439. Not even 24 hours has passed and the price already went up $50 on that particular model. WTF Micro Center.....WTF?

Just checked and the only one that had it's price raise from the pic i posted yesterday was the Pulse model from Sapphire: from 429.90€ to 448.90€, so a 19€ increase.

 

[nguyen]

Well since the news that 6600XT being an efficient little miner came out after all.

 

[Dr. Dro]

The comment I was responding to was about 6600 XTs (in general) at MSRP, not this specific SKU from Asus (and most discussion here seems to be about the GPUs in general, which is logical given that this was TPU's day 1 review for the whole series), and not street pricing either. I entirely agree that the Asus is ridiculously overpriced - but the review itself points that out. $170 on top of an already way too high MSRP is unacceptable. But that also means your comment is arguing against something I have never said.

I know. Apologies if it came out that way - I think I expressed myself about the point of budget hardware not being met, but it might have come off as secondary. Cheers mate!

Yeah, this whole generation is broken thats for sure. This is supposed to be a entry level enthusiast, mid-level ish card depending how you look at the specs and where it performs but no matter how you look at it though it does really well compared to competition which uses a bigger GPU and bus so AMD built a good GPU. The problem is the market in general but AMD isn't helping themselves by setting the MSRP where they did.

I agree with you, man. It's fantastic processor for what it is, but end of the day, it's the argument I was making for budget GPUs such as this one: if everyone could have the latest and greatest with no regards to cost, everyone would have a 3090 or 6900 XT, the point of cards like the 6600 XT and an eventual RTX 3050 Ti with similar characteristics would be to bring these features and technological advancements to an affordable price point, in order to sate a market with lower purchasing power and/or a keen interest in a competing brand's progress and technology.

 

[Valantar]

I know. Apologies if it came out that way - I think I expressed myself about the point of budget hardware not being met, but it might have come off as secondary. Cheers mate!



I agree with you, man. It's fantastic processor for what it is, but end of the day, it's the argument I was making for budget GPUs such as this one: if everyone could have the latest and greatest with no regards to cost, everyone would have a 3090 or 6900 XT, the point of cards like the 6600 XT and an eventual RTX 3050 Ti with similar characteristics would be to bring these features and technological advancements to an affordable price point, in order to sate a market with lower purchasing power and/or a keen interest in a competing brand's progress and technology.

Yeah, completely agree on everything here. Some price creep is expected - inflation makes every price point be worth less over time after all - but this is just not a $380 GPU in a sane world, and the 60/600 tier really ought to be exactly what you describe - where high end tech gets mass market pricing. And mass market pricing is still in the $200-300 range. This would have been a fantastic $280-300 GPU, with the non-XT slotting in at $200-220. Instead, it's now at what was the crossover point of upper midrange and high end just a couple of generations back. At best, it's upper midrange, though it's pushing it for that categorization. $20 down from the previous gen top end GPU is hardly impressive, especially when that GPU was a full product tier higher up in naming. I really hope that MSRPs will drop when the chip crunch and mining eventually taper out, but I still fear that these inflated prices are here to stay - GPU makers love those high average sales prices, after all. It makes shareholders happy, and whatever does that tends to be the opposite of that makes customers happy.

In my dream world, this drops to $280-300, the 6600 arrives at/drops to $200-220, and the 6500XT arrives at 75W (no power cable, HHHL designs likely) for ~$150 with 20-24 CUs and the same memory/IC config. But I don't think that's a particularly realistic dream, sadly.

 

[Selaya]

[ ... ] the 6500XT arrives at 75W (no power cable, HHHL designs likely) [ ... ]

Seriously, can we throw out the 1650 already ...

 

[Valantar]

Seriously, can we throw out the 1650 already ...

Oh I would so love that. It was underwhelming when it launched, and that there are still no better options is just depressing.

 

[HenrySomeone]

Ouch, worse than a 3060Ti for the same money. No wonder AMD is trying to keep the reviews from coming out. Man, can you just image the backlash if nVidia was telling reviewers they can only release nVidia sanctioned reviews? The torches and pitchforks would be sold out just like graphics cards.

Yup, AMD in its finest form at it again...but then they aren't really going for any sales numbers anyway (as all the recent market penetration surveys show). It just needs to exist (in theory) and the couple actual specimens will be frantically grabbed by fanboys anyway...

 

[Zubasa]

Here's something shitty.

My local Mirco Center has a Powercooler model of the 6600XT in stock, yesterday when I was checking prices online they had it priced at $389 and showed 25+ in stock.

I looked again today and they still show 25+ in stock, but the card is now priced at $439. Not even 24 hours has passed and the price already went up $50 on that particular model. WTF Micro Center.....WTF?

As if AMD did their market research and knew what they cold get away with.

 

[Valantar]

As if AMD did their market research and knew what they cold get away with.

Uh... How likely would you say it is that AMD is directly adjusting pricing at an individual retailer level? I'd say chances of that are zero.

 

[B-Real]

Ouch, worse than a 3060Ti for the same money. No wonder AMD is trying to keep the reviews from coming out. Man, can you just image the backlash if nVidia was telling reviewers they can only release nVidia sanctioned reviews? The torches and pitchforks would be sold out just like graphics cards.

On paper: $380 vs $400. So there is a 5% difference in price.

In real life: 682 EUR for a 6600 XT Strix (the cheapest 6600 XT at Caseking) vs. 967 EUR for a 3060 Ti (Zotac Twin Edge, which has a much cheaper cooler compared to the Strix). So from a 5% difference you get a 41% difference in price (and I didn't even consider the price difference between the models - Strix 3060 Ti is 1016 EUR). And you will never see launch prices maybe at least for the next generation.

Performance difference is 23%. So that sits nearly in the mid between that 5 and 41% price difference. But, as I said, in reality, you can only buy 3060 Ti cards starting at around 1000 $/EUR, while you can buy 6600 XTs from around 700 $/EUR.