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Hello guys!

today I would like to publish quite unpretentious how to disable the windows defender with simple on-board resources and thus paralyze the entire windows security.
Clearly at the beginning: we do not hack, we do not crack! we do not use any viruses or trojans...
you can use delete and paste thanks to my preliminary work.

i dedicate the article to @lexluthermiester because he was the father of the idea. it took me some time to design the whole thing in a way that we lock the security and make it inoperable but don't tear any wounds into the system by creating holes there due to missing files. the inserted files can be read! but nothing more. updates can be done but the files will never be executed. so we don't get any error messages either. computers are such wonderfully self-sufficient pets.

On the whole, everything remains intact, but we no longer have virus protection in the operating system itself.

Warning! please do this at your own risk. if you do not have sufficient virus protection, you will only have problems afterwards.

i personally have been paying monthly for years for my virus protection and have experience with scanners and what they are capable of.

an old proverb says: shoemaker stick to your work! that means why a publisher of an operating system feels called upon to install such a huge clunky virus scanner remains a mystery to me personally and has been a thorn in my side for years. especially since MS decided to make the thing no longer disengageable and to force it on us or to impose it on us as if we do not have to wait until the end of the day. as if we can't count to three.
as a small hint: i only have to flip a switch in my virus scanner. microsoft treats itself to 130! guidelines in the GPEDIT.MSC section to control the whole thing, more or less effectively. because when my virus scanner says; file OK the MS scanner really goes into overdrive.

we all don't drive our car with two sets of tires on top of each other. and two virus scanners in a row simply doesn't make sense.
The defender simply scans everything without pause which makes the OS much slower. i can remember times when you ran the four scanner you were not allowed to run anything else in parallel. otherwise the PC crashed. it simply took too many internal resources. and while all scanners have evolved further microsoft goes back exactly on this path and forces us his will or his view of a useful program imposes.


hopefully this has now come to an end.
The whole thing can also be reversed. i will also explain this.

notice! it is the best u cleaninstall windows on a spare device first and make yourself common with the opartions! BECAUSE if u "fuck" up the TPM thing your HDD (data is in danger)! if u follow my steps the TPM thing is no problem.
i made it on my mainsystem windows 11 running and as u can see it works. so all files are tested on the v.10.22000.132 (win11). OR make a shadowcopy of your system NO backup! a whole copy to restore it easily!!

okay lets go:

ressources:
data to insert <<<<<<<<<< here are the files you use.
repair tool - make all reverse. <<<<<<<< this is the tool which helps you to undo all changes.

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1. CREATE a HIRENS stick.

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2. boot with hirens go beneath the OS and (if u cannot see your C: drive dont bother) assign the drive letter "S" to it.

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3. Go to the DRIVE "S" and look for the folders similar to the data you downloaded.

in total u have to delete and insert 6 modded folders. DO NOT MERGE!! delete and insert!

DO NOT change the driveletter back to C: . let it be "S"!!








4. reboot! AND make windows UPDATES first. thats it. renew your TPM if u have it.
go to gpedit.msc filter to defender. and switch all off/on. 130 things.







how to revert all changes:

extract an install.wim from you current ISO {windows version u have installed -- it varies} and execute it with the little tool above. do an /sfc scan afterwards.
reboot!
that's it.






problems? let me know. we will find a solution if somethings goes wrong.
 
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What's the advantage of doing this vs using the Group Policy Editor?

1. Open Group Policy Editor (gpedit.msc in the Run box)
2. Computer Configuration > Administrative Templates > Windows Components > Microsoft Defender Antivirus -> Turn Off Microsoft Defender Antivirus. Set to Enabled.
 
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because u cannot switch it off anymore by windows. it turns on automatically again

otherwise i would not have sit weeks on my seat and tried to find a way to make this above happen
 
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because u cannot switch it off anymore by windows. it turns on automatically again

otherwise i would not have sit weeks on my seat and tried to find a way to make this above happen
Do you know exactly which W10 version this started to happen? I've seen that it can still be permanently disabled via Group Policy on Enterprise LTSC 1809 (supported until 9th Jan 2029). Is it just Pro or also Enterprise / Education where this happens?
 
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Do you know exactly which W10 version this started to happen? I've seen that it can still be permanently disabled via Group Policy on Enterprise LTSC 1809 (supported until 9th Jan 2029). Is it just Pro or also Enterprise / Education that this happens?
this is VERY new! but to be honest i cant locate the version this started, sry mate.

ppl worked on it to stop it. but MS was "angry" and made the switch ON permanently.

but the 1809 is a quite old version. 19044 something ... the newer ones def.

wait i resaercch
i ll get your answer soon
i know where its written

Do you know exactly which W10 version this started to happen? I've seen that it can still be permanently disabled via Group Policy on Enterprise LTSC 1809 (supported until 9th Jan 2029). Is it just Pro or also Enterprise / Education where this happens?
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Since AUGUST 3rd.


With Windows 10 2004, Microsoft had integrated protection against unwanted apps into Windows Security. But already since 2018 it was possible to enable the PUA protection feature via PowerShell.

Now it has been announced that the protection under Windows 10 and Windows 11 will now be automatically set to "On" from August 2021, or implemented in the near future. If you want to take a look for yourself, you can find this setting under Windows Security -> App and Browser Control -> Settings for Reliability-Based Protection -> Potentially Unwanted Apps Are Blocked.



Here you can either disable / enable the complete protection, or limit it to apps or downloads only. If the function is automatically set to "On", greater protection is ensured.

The advantage and at the same time disadvantage is that the PUA protection can strike quickly, especially with new or updated programs and apps, and warn the user that it is malware. In many cases, this can be due to the fact that the signatures are not yet aware of this software, which results in a false positive message (i.e. It could be that...), but it is not malware.
 
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very elegant and radical!

then mine is the revertable lite-version...?!

by the way there are commands and sequences in here that are extremely cool and helpful to clean up the PC properly! thanks in any case for this!

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after thorough examination, i was very pleased that @W1zzard posted a really extraordinarily detailed sequence under my contribution.

it must have been a lot of work to write all this and/or put it all together! Thanks a lot for that!

i of course immediately looked at what he produced there and found it to be extremely good and immediately used it myself, in a modified form, to set up the cleanest system in a long time.
it saves a lot of time to make these settings myself!

BUT here's the thing: the defender is turned off but as soon as the mask of your own antivirus program overlays the defender, you no longer have any control whether everything is really turned off AND STAYING!

Microsoft has got some easter eggs for us as well: Backupfiles for the whole security issue

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_____ go there and delete every part named with defender




if your software is reacting like above you are "secure" without security

this picture is showing exactly what we want: Tamperprotection is grey and the virus scanner is not able to activate itself.

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I may be incorrect but i thought antiviruses are able to turn windows defender off
maybe it was a long time ago but i think thats how my laptop shipped
because of NORTON
 
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I may be incorrect but i thought antiviruses are able to turn windows defender off
maybe it was a long time ago but i think thats how my laptop shipped
because of NORTON
yes and no! the defender scans without break in background. why do i need this crappy thing when i am paying for an exellent, different program? (reasons initial post)

its quite simple: i took the data and teached them not to be executed! u can do this by rightclick and security settings for each file! a simple administrator setting.
norton is the biggest company on the market. u can download my files and scan them zipped/packed. every proper scanner is able to do this.

and the trick is. when u go to the win SE mode via hirens the blocks from microsoft are not armed. so you can easily swap the files.


thats it. simple like kindergarten drawing.

no witchcraft and mystery spells

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my virusscanner btw. costs 85$/€ per year. so norton is not the problem here. i clearly recommend it. even the normal editions.

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Man you're out there.
This entire thread is the essence of a facepalm.
 
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I can't believe you'd pay for an antivirus program that quite probably is only as effective as defender but heavier on resources with a bunch of unneeded crap
 

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For the record, Norton is always the problem.
 
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Man you're out there.
This entire thread is the essence of a facepalm.

I can't believe you'd pay for an antivirus program that quite probably is only as effective as defender but heavier on resources with a bunch of unneeded crap

For the record, Norton is always the problem.
nagging is always so nice and easy, you have not even read the post. otherwise constructive comments would appear here.
when i read: facapalm. probably. and always the problem.

that doesn't get you anywhere. as long as a moderator doesn't comment to the same extent, you'll have to live with it. and if you claim that the defender is just as effective, you should delete your account here.
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instead of mumbling around here you could list some really good free antivirus scanners
 

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Hi,
Fun fact about norton think everyone has used it at one time or another
If you don't renew them and some of your friends... still use them they will flag all your files you send after lol

Personally way back in the norton/... days I found a little company called malwarebytes "A norton support staff used it to clean my machine lol" and bought their cheap pro keys eventually think a single license was like 15.us maybe 19.99 which is better and a crapload cheaper than norton since mbam pro was not subscription back then :D

Because they cleaned up so many systems "just the fre version" back then that had norton/ mcafee/.... I rewarded them with getting pro versions :respect:

They "mbam pro" went premium "subscription like the bigs" and gave all us mbam pro oldtimers premium keys for life to show their appreciation for making them so popular
Every since it's all I've ever used and the world has not ended I'm still using win-7 and no issues and systems have never been cleaner and I'm no saint either lol

If I were looking for a replacement
Webroot or bit defender

I don't mention defender because it's not worth mentioning if it ever found anything it could never remove it making it useless as W1zzard said.
10's version is just telemetry-ware.
 
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Hi,
Fun fact about norton think everyone has used it at one time or another
If you don't renew them and some of your friends... still use them they will flag all your files you send after lol

Personally way back in the norton/... days I found a little company called malwarebytes "A norton support staff used it to clean my machine lol" and bought their cheap pro keys eventually think a single license was like 15.us maybe 19.99 which is better and a crapload cheaper than norton since mbam pro was not subscription back then :D

Because they cleaned up so many systems "just the fre version" back then that had norton/ mcafee/.... I rewarded them with getting pro versions :respect:

They "mbam pro" went premium "subscription like the bigs" and gave all us mbam pro oldtimers premium keys for life to show their appreciation for making them so popular
Every since it's all I've ever used and the world has not ended I'm still using win-7 and no issues and systems have never been cleaner and I'm no saint either lol

If I were looking for a replacement
Webroot or bit defender

I don't mention defender because it's not worth mentioning if it ever found anything it could never remove it making it useless as W1zzard said.
10's version is just telemetry-ware.
ty my man!
AND i will tell u all why i use norton:
i am judge and i have in parts quite sensitive data on my pc. if someone hacks me and its gettig public i used a free antivirus iam not insuranced and just *fkd up..

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Hi,
I've been ignoring pretender red flags so long now i might as well remove it
All pretender ever shows is settings I know I changed as important alerts but now they also show important notice to use onedrive lol
 
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i am judge and i have in parts quite sensitive data on my pc. if someone hacks me and its gettig public i used a free antivirus iam not insuranced and just *fkd up..

So Really the reason you want to turn off completely Windows Defender is because you have a paid AV ie Norton but is it the business version or the home user version because if it's the former you may just find you're fucked up aswell
and if you claim that the defender is just as effective, you should delete your account here.
as for this part of your comment that's just being a Windows Defender denier. According to AV-Test.org it scores exactly the same as Nortons for home users 6's across the board and for business users norton doesn't see fit to provide a copy for testing MS Defender also get's 6's across the board and in both cases gets the AV-Test Top Product award


after 30+ years of fixing other people's problem PC's I have come to the conclusion that both Snortons and Shitmantic are the two worst offenders for letting viruses and malware into a PC also PEBKAC plays a big part in it aswell
 
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d if you claim that the defender is just as effective, you should delete your account here.
i personally think no antivurs is fully effective
Windows defender + commen sence + malwerebytes free manual scams
is the best way
Futhermore any other antivuries bar windows defender brings lower end pcs to their knees
they make the whole system chug doing a whole lot of nothing

after 30+ years of fixing other people's problem PC's I have come to the conclusion that both Snortons and Shitmantic are the two worst offenders for letting viruses and malware into a PC also PEBKAC plays a big part in it aswell
They can also slow computers to a crawl
 
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So Really the reason you want to turn off completely Windows Defender is because you have a paid AV ie Norton but is it the business version or the home user version because if it's the former you may just find you're fucked up aswell

as for this part of your comment that's just being a Windows Defender denier. According to AV-Test.org it scores exactly the same as Nortons for home users 6's across the board and for business users norton doesn't see fit to provide a copy for testing MS Defender also get's 6's across the board and in both cases gets the AV-Test Top Product award


after 30+ years of fixing other people's problem PC's I have come to the conclusion that both Snortons and Shitmantic are the two worst offenders for letting viruses and malware into a PC also PEBKAC plays a big part in it aswell
did u read what Wizzard wrote? and this is my private PC. i have no file data on it. i am talking from e-mail adresses etc. i am behind 4! firewalls

and ur posted link is a commercial site for free antivirus programs! thank u for this! this is a german company and easy to scan for me!

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4.2 Customer shall perform its duties to cooperate for AV-TEST free of charge.

Customer shall make the Software to be tested by AV-TEST as well as the data, documents and information ("Customer Materials") required for the performance of the Services by AV-TEST available to AV-TEST in due time and in full.

4.3 Customer shall ensure that a sufficient number of suitable contact persons with the required expertise are available on Customer's side.

4.4 Should AV-TEST provide Customer with data for the improvement of its software or error analysis containing malicious functions ("Malware") after performance of the contractual services, AV-TEST shall identify them as such. Customer shall be obliged to treat such data identified as such by AV-TEST as Malware, to process them only with due diligence and not to execute them. This shall in particular also apply to data marked as Malware by AV-TEST but not recognized as such by current anti-virus software.

4.5 To the extent Customer provides AV-TEST with a software for a comparative test with the software of other manufacturers, Customer warrants that the software provided to AV-TEST is an identical version of the software as it is also distributed by Customer in the regular course of business under the respective name.

4.6 Insofar as AV-TEST provides Customer with the test results of a comparative test prior to publication, Customer shall be obliged to check the test results without delay and to notify AV-TEST in writing or by e-mail of any defects and errors detected as soon as possible, however no later than on the feedback date specified prior to the publication date.

4.7 As far as AV-TEST is prevented from performing the contractual services due to the non-contractual performance of the cooperation services, AV-TEST shall not be responsible for any resulting deficiencies in performance. All contractual and legal deadlines for performance shall be postponed accordingly. Any additional expenses or other costs incurred due to delayed or non-performed cooperation services may be invoiced separately by AV-TEST.

5 Changes of Services
5.1 Each party shall be entitled to request in writing changes of the contractual services. The change request shall be made in writing or by e-mail and shall contain sufficient information to enable the other party to evaluate the change request. Each change request shall contain at least the following information:

(a) Description of the change requested;

(b) The purpose and intent of the requested amendment;

(c) Special circumstances and background to be considered with respect to the requested amendment;

d) Urgency of the requested change.

5.2 If Customer submits a change request, AV-TEST shall examine the change request and promptly submit to Customer a realization offer with all information required for Customer's decision-making, in particular specifying performance periods and remuneration. Customer shall check the realization offer immediately after handover by AV-TEST.

5.3 Changes in performance shall be documented in writing by a corresponding amendment to the contract. As long as the parties have not reached an agreement on a change of performance AV-TEST shall perform the Services in accordance with the original agreement in the offer of AV-TEST and/or the service description agreed with Customer.

6 Prices, Remuneration
6.1 Customer shall pay for the contractual Services rendered by AV-TEST either as effort-dependent remuneration at the agreed fee rates or within the scope of a fixed price; more details shall be regulated by the respective individual contract.

Indipendent is a different thing.

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ty my man!
AND i will tell u all why i use norton:
i am judge and i have in parts quite sensitive data on my pc. if someone hacks me and its gettig public i used a free antivirus iam not insuranced and just *fkd up..

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If you're a judge and are worried about a work PC being compromised, you have bigger concerns/problems than which AV/malware program you should use. For your use case, Norton would probably be best, because in that environment, security is more important than performance. Now whether or not Norton is the best for that, I couldn't tell you, but I certainly wouldn't want to have it on a PC that I render or game on.
 
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and ur posted link is a commercial site for free antivirus programs!
It's not just for free AV suites they test paid for versions aswell
 
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I really dont understand why you would deactivte anyway
Its not particly heavy on computers
and it doesnt hurt anything apart from nuking the odd false postive

Come on windows your making me look bad...
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Hi,
Because it's spam and pestware
Any security saying onedrive/ sample uploading/.... is important is crap.
 
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