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NVIDIA Readying GeForce RTX 3090 SUPER, A Fully Unlocked GA102 with 400W Power?

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NVIDIA is readying the GeForce RTX 3090 SUPER, the first "SUPER" series model from the RTX 30-series, following a recent round of "Ti" refreshes for its product stack. According to kopite7kimi and Greymon55, who each have a high strike-rate with NVIDIA rumors, the RTX 3090 SUPER could finally max-out the 8 nm "GA102" silicon on which nearly all high-end models from this NVIDIA GeForce generation are based. A fully unlocked GA102 comes with 10,752 CUDA cores, 336 Tensor cores, 84 RT cores, 336 TMUs, and 112 ROPs. The RTX 3090 stops short of maxing this out, with its 10,496 CUDA cores.

NVIDIA's strategy with the alleged RTX 3090 SUPER will be to not only max out the GA102 silicon, with its 10,752 CUDA cores, but also equip it with the fastest possible GDDR6X memory variant, which ticks at 21 Gbps data-rate, compared to 19.5 Gbps on the RTX 3090, and 19 Gbps on the RTX 3080 and RTX 3080 Ti. At this speed, across the chip's 384-bit wide memory bus, the RTX 3090 SUPER will enjoy 1 TB/s of memory bandwidth. Besides more CUDA cores, it's possible that the GPU Boost frequency could be increased. All this comes at a cost, though, with Greymon55 predicting a total graphics power (TGP) of at least 400 W, compared to 350 W of the RTX 3090. A product launch is expected within 2021.



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It would be .25% faster and 50% more expensive at retail price.
 
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It would be .25% faster and 50% more expensive at retail price.

Guessing 2% but yeah price willl be stupid 2k min this is just to cash in on scalper pricing so they can phase out the $1499 3090 FE
 
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Just sounds stupidly expensive and unnecessary.
 
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At least 400W? Get ready for more stories of burnt-out RAM chips and PCIe power cords...

Once upon a time people actually cared about not turning their PCs into self-destructing ovens... :shadedshu:
 
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Let hope Nvidia release 3060 Super and 3070 Super along with 3090 Super, there are rather large performance gaps between 3060-3060Ti and 3070Ti-3080
 
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Benchmark Scores are good
with Greymon55 predicting a total graphics power (TGP) of at least 400 W
Way more than 400W.
I wouldn't be surprised if the stock cooler has an AIO and still takes up 3 slots.

Oh yeah, definitely 4 8-pins.
 

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Yay, Another card that virtually nobody can buy and pay out of the ass for when available

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I'd like to see a 3060 Super.

The difference between a 3060 and 3060 Ti is too big with 1000 CUDA Cores.
 
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At least 400W? Get ready for more stories of burnt-out RAM chips and PCIe power cords...

Once upon a time people actually cared about not turning their PCs into self-destructing ovens... :shadedshu:
It's crazy. People used to mock the power consumption of cards like the R9 290X, which drew 240-250W on average. Now people happily shove cards pulling 100W+ more in their system. It's sad that power consumption has only gone up and up in the GPU world.
 
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It's sad that power consumption has only gone up and up in the GPU world.

And yet they keep saying how efficient.....
 
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And yet they keep saying how efficient.....
Well, they are more efficient than previous gen cards but the higher power consumption to achieve their target performance levels makes them look anything but efficient. Of course power users like us could dial the power back 10-20% and not lose a great deal in performance and cut the power consumption by a fair amount, but how many people are willing to dial back when so many are salivating for moar power?!
 
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At the reasonable MSRP of 2K with the usual nah mate increase no doubt.
I wouldn't upgrade to this under any circumstances so clearly it's a niche of our niche they're after go you Nvidia, gits.
 
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There's so little extra over the regular 3090 that you have to wonder if anyone will care.
Third-party 3090 cards already exceed 400W so the TDP bump is basically irrelevant and the only thing that seems to limit a 3090 is ROPs which remains unchanged.
At least Nvidia get to put a bigger number on the pricetag...
 
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Pointless it many ways, but they will sell every single one after all... so they might as well fill their boots.
 
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Da...fuq? 50W for 250 shaders and 60 GBps?

Hi there leftovers with shite OC potential.

They say that 4090 Super won't have weird power plugs anymore, it will be a well known standard one, to be connected straight to wall socket:
:rockout::laugh:

There's so little extra over the regular 3090 that you have to wonder if anyone will care.
Third-party 3090 cards already exceed 400W so the TDP bump is basically irrelevant and the only thing that seems to limit a 3090 is ROPs which remains unchanged.
At least Nvidia get to put a bigger number on the pricetag...

In fact what I take from their first SUPER announcement is that the SUPER line up for Ampere will contain higher TDPs for every tier in the stack. These GPUs aren't better, they're possibly just bigger and binned lower all the way. Fully unlocked yes, but don't ask how. This release is really a step back in efficiency going by stock metrics.

Nice Samsung node says hi again, and again, not even with a ten foot pole will I touch this power hog crap. Not paying the Nv premium just to get a worse chip, its TSMC or bust.
 
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