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It really doesn't matter how you are calling them - for me they are "next-gen". I don't think so that's the topic here anyway. It's nitpicking.
 
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Maybe that revision with the smaller-lighter cooler has the 6nm SOC already in it?
 
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Benchmark Scores 3050 scores good 15-20% lower than average, despite ASUS's claims that it has uber cooling.
Instead of making a functional console, compact and with an adequate cooling system as were the Steam machines but also of today's thin clients they make bulky and futuristic shapes that have terrible cooling and then revise them every year.
Sony wasn't prepared for MS going bananas on chip size. (40CUs vs 56)
Hence they had to OC the APU to 2.2-ish Ghz.
Hence the need to mess with cooling.
 
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Needless to say DF and GN are already on it.
 
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the exhaust system of the new PS5 revision is spitting out 3-5 degrees
We could deduce from this that the new system is either more efficient in cooling or the SOC produces more heat, given that's the same SOC so the new cooling (or firmware) the new PS5 is able to take more heat than the old one.
Stop feeding those philistine YouTubers who don't have a clue about anything.
 
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We could deduce from this that the new system is either more efficient in cooling or the SOC produces more heat, given that's the same SOC so the new cooling (or firmware) the new PS5 is able to take more heat than the old one.
Stop feeding those philistine YouTubers who don't have a clue about anything.
Agreed, most likely that the new and different in design fan works better in extracting more air from the case which is always a good indication for cooling a closed case. And I don't think that the SOC in the PS5 consumes more now than the original.
 
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the old one was overkill anyway, i don't think it needs to become a drama
 
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Overhyped news really.

That SOC wont be utilized for it's 100% both CPU and GPU anyways in it's lifetime. And second hardware can run up to it's thermal limits for quite some years without any issues. Any device will need cleaning over time. Due to the use of LM its just a matter of canning the thing clear from it's dust and thats it.

If PS5 gets a refined SOC as in smaller nanometers then there's no use to have the same heatsink really. TSMC refines it all the time and these small increments will help driving it's power requirement down. So as part of a contract proberely that sony is entitled to take off xxxx amount of wafers on monthly basis it wont change anything really.

I mean it wont be as hot as the initial PS3 fat version. And it wont be as hot as the PS4. These ryzen socs with Rdna graphics are very clever when it comes to thermal performance. They can and are designed to run hotter then usual.
 

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Agreed, most likely that the new and different in design fan works better in extracting more air from the case which is always a good indication for cooling a closed case. And I don't think that the SOC in the PS5 consumes more now than the original.
The fan isn't new. If you missed my earlier reply in this thread, even the first version of the PS5 came with three different fans from three different suppliers.
I made the same assumption at first, thanks to the way the 'tuber presented things.
 
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Yeah it's NMB, Delta and Nidec. In the video old PS5 digital is with the Delta, while the Nidec was in the new revision. My PS5 is also with the Nidec fan. All are kinda the same. Before was said that Nidec is the worst in terms of noise, but actually it's all about the vibrations in the chassis. All fans are dead silent if you take them out of the console. There was video exactly for the Nidec, because it got hate that is the worst fan of all three which is not the case. Vibrations and coil whine are biggest sources of noises in the PS5.
 
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While I doubt that we’re seeing a node shrink, it’s quite possible that the process for manufacturing the existing chip has simply improved since launch, resulting in better chips coming off the line that require less peak voltage to hit the design targets. Binning for consoles looks different because they can’t harvest through the usual means of reduced CUs or lower clocks. Better chips mean modified console designs.

As others have pointed out, I’m also questioning the logic that hotter exhaust means less efficient. If anything, it tells me the cooling setup is performing better, since more heat is leaving the system. Consoles are all about refinement over time, which helps drive down production costs throughout the product’s lifecycle. I would suspect that the launch consoles were overbuilt knowing that they’d have the ”worst” batch of SOCs coming off the line. Now Sony likely has several months of real usage data and telemetry to make further tweaks to the production process.
 
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We could deduce from this that the new system is either more efficient in cooling or the SOC produces more heat, given that's the same SOC so the new cooling (or firmware) the new PS5 is able to take more heat than the old one.
Stop feeding those philistine YouTubers who don't have a clue about anything.
That's not how cooling works. A higher exhaust airflow temperature can mean several things: less airflow (meaning the air has more time to heat up while passing through the heatsink); a warmer heatsink due to less thermal mass and/or surface area; a warmer chip putting out more power. What it can't mean is the heatsink is transferring more heat to the air at the same airflow without the heatsink temperature increasing - thermodynamics ensures that. It is not indicative of a more efficient cooling system if one adheres to common understandings of (consumer-facing) cooling efficiency (i.e. being able to extract as much heat as possible with as little power consumption, noise and design issues/complexity as possible) - cooler exhaust air is indicative of the heatsink efficiently dissipating its thermal energy input. Given that there's no chance of a power draw increase for the SoC (unless yields have suddenly gotten worse, which ... nah.), that means either less airflow or a hotter heatsink. Given the smaller design of the heatsink and retaining at least one of the original fans (likely all three for a steady supply), a hotter heatsink is by far the most likely answer due to there being less surface area and less thermal mass. A hotter heatsink also generally means a hotter SoC (as thermal transfer is more effective the larger the thermal delta, the heatsink getting warmer will cause the SoC to heat up as well) - though by exactly how much is impossible to extrapolate from external data. It's likely a relatively minor difference overall - and as I said before, Sony most likely has all the data they could ever want in order to make sure this design is sufficient to keep things running.
It really doesn't matter how you are calling them - for me they are "next-gen". I don't think so that's the topic here anyway. It's nitpicking.
Well, you're entirely welcome to your own personal definition. For the world and console makers, these exist and have been on sale for quite a while, so they are by the very definition of the word current. Whether they are next for you (and a lot of other people) is rather irrelevant. And sure, it's nitpicking, but it's also worth thinking about how we actually speak of things. Sticking to an outdated term just because we're used to it is a bad habit.
 
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"That is just measuring the air coming out" - you know that the air exit temperature being hotter indicates the cooling solution is working better, not worse, right? Getting rid of the heat is what the cooling solution does. An indication the CPU is running hotter would be if the air exit temperature was cooler, because the cooling solution wouldn't be removing the heat as efficiently.
That is if the cooling solution remains constant, right? If the cpu runs significantly hotter reaching saturation, air exit temp follows, right?
 
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That is if the cooling solution remains constant, right? If the cpu runs significantly hotter reaching saturation, air exit temp follows, right?
Yep. Or if you reduce the thermal mass of the heatsink, exhaust temps will also rise as the remaining heatsink needs to absorb the same amount of energy. This will also lead to the SoC running slightly hotter as the thermal delta between the SoC and heatsink shrinks, making heat transfer less efficient.
 
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@AleksandarK - that teardown was for PS5 Digital, not the disc model. So far we have no reports that the same type of cuts were made for the B chassis of the fat model.
 

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Overhyped news really.

That SOC wont be utilized for it's 100% both CPU and GPU anyways in it's lifetime. And second hardware can run up to it's thermal limits for quite some years without any issues. Any device will need cleaning over time. Due to the use of LM its just a matter of canning the thing clear from it's dust and thats it.

If PS5 gets a refined SOC as in smaller nanometers then there's no use to have the same heatsink really. TSMC refines it all the time and these small increments will help driving it's power requirement down. So as part of a contract proberely that sony is entitled to take off xxxx amount of wafers on monthly basis it wont change anything really.

I mean it wont be as hot as the initial PS3 fat version. And it wont be as hot as the PS4. These ryzen socs with Rdna graphics are very clever when it comes to thermal performance. They can and are designed to run hotter then usual.
I'm not a huge fan of paying the same price for a revision that makes it an objectively worse product. Sadly, sentiments that view it as "good enough; who cares" will let these companies pad their bottom lines and drown out complaints.
 
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I'm not a huge fan of paying the same price for a revision that makes it an objectively worse product. Sadly, sentiments that view it as "good enough; who cares" will let these companies pad their bottom lines and drown out complaints.
Same here. I prefer paying same price for "overly-engineered" console than "standard".
 
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This is, once again, much-ado-about-nothing. One only needs to LOOK at that new heat sink and THINK about airflow within the PS5 chassis to realize the changes are refinements that improve thermal performance over-all.

We'll need proper testing to be sure (measuring the exhaust temperature is kind of a joke) but they definitely cheaped out. I can see some optimizations, like in the bottom where the fins barely get any air got cut down, but the slimmer upper part is definetly a cost savings that ought to reduce performance. The vapor chamber is also a lot smaller.

The entire thing imo was bad from the start, it was done the apple way - design over function, and doesn't even look that great (not hating, I have a disc edition, but it's true, the cooling design got way more complicated than it needed to be and only lost performance in the process - xbox altough not perfect did it a lot better).

@AleksandarK - that teardown was for PS5 Digital, not the disc model. So far we have no reports that the same type of cuts were made for the B chassis of the fat model.

Not yet, but it's more than likely to happen sooner than later. I think the original disc model used the same heatsink as the digital, no reason to have them be different as the new one is almost certainly cheaper.

Needless to say DF and GN are already on it.

They are? Sure hope so, would like to see more concrete data (if the fan variations offer a meaningfull difference maybe go shopping :D
 
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I'm not into conslows but if i were to choose a console it would be Xbox SeX. The main reason is that the PS5 is HUGE and looks very ridiculous... it really looks like anything except a Console. The Xbox SeX which is Waaaay smaller and around 20-30% faster seems to be just pushed aside by most conslow gamers in favor of PS5. Like 16 out 20 people that i asked about have choose the PS5 immediately while shitting on the Xbox. And i want to know WHY?

Why is a more compact console with much powerful hardware is being shit on so much? I doubt it's the exclusives, both sides seems to be lacking on that deparment for the moment. Also, M$ now owns Zenimax and a whole lot of very good developers.
 
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"That is just measuring the air coming out" - you know that the air exit temperature being hotter indicates the cooling solution is working better, not worse, right? Getting rid of the heat is what the cooling solution does. An indication the CPU is running hotter would be if the air exit temperature was cooler, because the cooling solution wouldn't be removing the heat as efficiently.
No, that doesn't make sense.
Hotter air exiting means more internal heat which is being blown out.
Cooler air out means cooler internals.
 
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I'm not into conslows but if i were to choose a console it would be Xbox SeX. The main reason is that the PS5 is HUGE and looks very ridiculous... it really looks like anything except a Console. The Xbox SeX which is Waaaay smaller and around 20-30% faster seems to be just pushed aside by most conslow gamers in favor of PS5. Like 16 out 20 people that i asked about have choose the PS5 immediately while shitting on the Xbox. And i want to know WHY?

Why is a more compact console with much powerful hardware is being shit on so much? I doubt it's the exclusives, both sides seems to be lacking on that deparment for the moment. Also, M$ now owns Zenimax and a whole lot of very good developers.

It's exactly that, the exclusive games (the controller is also pretty great). The xbox is slightly more powerfull (20-30% is an exageration imo but whatever) but I can play xbox games on the desktop anyway. Can't really do that for playstation exclusives.

No, that doesn't make sense.
Hotter air exiting means more internal heat which is being blown out.
Cooler air out means cooler internals.

It technically could be either one, you'd need more concrete data to be sure, but more than likely it's what you describe, hotter internals.
 
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I'm not into conslows but if i were to choose a console it would be Xbox SeX. The main reason is that the PS5 is HUGE and looks very ridiculous... it really looks like anything except a Console. The Xbox SeX which is Waaaay smaller and around 20-30% faster seems to be just pushed aside by most conslow gamers in favor of PS5. Like 16 out 20 people that i asked about have choose the PS5 immediately while shitting on the Xbox. And i want to know WHY?

Why is a more compact console with much powerful hardware is being shit on so much? I doubt it's the exclusives, both sides seems to be lacking on that deparment for the moment. Also, M$ now owns Zenimax and a whole lot of very good developers.
PS5 is catching up with clock speeds and closing that gap. Plus was seen in many scenarios that PS5 games perform better than Xbox Series X. It's not all about raw power, but also the software. See Nintendo.
 

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