Windows 11 General Discussion

Chomiq · Sep 22, 2021

Level1tech has a video coming on W11, what a freaking mess.

lexluthermiester · Sep 22, 2021

mtosev said:
Your device must be running Windows 10, version 2004 or later, to upgrade. Free updates are available through Windows Update in Settings>Update and Security.

How to Get Windows 11 for Your Compatible PC

Find out how to get Windows 11 from Microsoft. Check your PC’s compatibility against the system requirements to see if you can upgrade to Windows 11.

www.microsoft.com

Ah they updated that page then! TY.

theFOoL · Sep 22, 2021

mtosev said:
Been on Microsoft's website and I read there that win 10 version 2004 and newer can be upgraded to win 11 via Windows update.

Yeah I think 2004 is when they really took off to actually added stuff where before 16xx was just meh

Liquid Cool · Sep 22, 2021

I ran the new PC Health Checker on my 2 1/2 year old tablet pc with a Core m3-7y30 processor.

After viewing the results...I did a little updating to the page myself...

Best,

Liquid Cool

mtosev · Sep 22, 2021

Liquid Cool said:
I ran the new PC Health Checker on my 2 1/2 year old tablet pc with a Core m3-7y30 processor.

After viewing the results...I did a little updating to the page myself...

View attachment 217861

Best,

Liquid Cool

I opened ark.intel.com and it says that your CPU came out Q3 2016. So that's 5 years now. Mine i7 6500U from Q3 2015 also isn't supposed but I don't care as I didn't even expect that such an old CPU would be supported.

Mr Bill · Sep 22, 2021

mtosev said:
Been on Microsoft's website and I read there that win 10 version 2004 and newer can be upgraded to win 11 via Windows update.

My question is, do we really want to upgrade from 10, or wouldn't a fresh install be better? I just never liked upgrades, are they ok, or do they leave a lot of 10's trash behind on your drive?

lexluthermiester · Sep 22, 2021

Mr Bill said:
My question is, do we really want to upgrade from 10

~~Yes, screw 10.~~
Oops.. Sorry, I misread.

theFOoL · Sep 22, 2021

Mr Bill said:
My question is, do we really want to upgrade from 10, or wouldn't a fresh install be better? I just never liked upgrades, are they ok, or do they leave a lot of 10's trash behind on your drive?

Have another drive of your apps and do a fresh install. If that's not the case then be sure to save what you have then a fresh install. If windows 11 says your computer is not compatible then get my reg file and before install hit Shift F10 and regedit then locate the reg file by importing it by a USB DOWNLOAD

windwhirl · Sep 22, 2021

Mr Bill said:
My question is, do we really want to upgrade from 10, or wouldn't a fresh install be better? I just never liked upgrades, are they ok, or do they leave a lot of 10's trash behind on your drive?

If possible, do a clean install. Always better to start fresh, and I say that as a lazy guy that doesn't bother doing clean installs unless the system becomes unstable (which has happened to me like twice in +6 years and the two of them were my fault :laugh:

)

R-T-B · Sep 22, 2021

A note for those on enterprise SKUs, the policy wording has changed on telemetry. It appears enterprise SKUs can now completely disable telemetry, if the wording is to be believed (great for my organization):

lexluthermiester · Sep 22, 2021

R-T-B said:
A note for those on enterprise SKUs, the policy wording has changed on telemetry. It appears enterprise SKUs can now completely disable telemetry, if the wording is to be believed (great for my organization):

View attachment 217867

That seems nice! But can it be trusted? I think the removal of the diag services, executables and dll is still the best course of action.

windwhirl · Sep 22, 2021

R-T-B said:
A note for those on enterprise SKUs, the policy wording has changed on telemetry. It appears enterprise SKUs can now completely disable telemetry, if the wording is to be believed (great for my organization):

View attachment 217867

I thought telemetry on Windows 10 Enterprise could always be disabled (not sure if it applied for a machine flighting Insider builds, but that's the niche case in Enterprise)

mtosev · Sep 22, 2021

Mr Bill said:
My question is, do we really want to upgrade from 10, or wouldn't a fresh install be better? I just never liked upgrades, are they ok, or do they leave a lot of 10's trash behind on your drive?

Well you know. When you upgrade your Windows version, Microsoft makes a backup copy of the previous installation and creates a folder called windows.old in which it stores your previous version of Windows. That folder stays there for 10 days and with a click in the settings you can revert back to your previous Windows installation without any problems if something doesn't work or you just liked the previous Windows more and if you do that within the timeframe of 10 days. After that Windows deletes that folder and you need to do a fresh installation if you want to use a previous version. I personally won't be doing a fresh install this time around because I'm pretty sure that everything will be OK. There is one benefit of upgrading as Windows will remember all of your current settings and apply those to the new version of Windows and also all your installed software will be migrated to Windows 11 as well.

R-T-B · Sep 22, 2021

windwhirl said:
I thought telemetry on Windows 10 Enterprise could always be disabled (not sure if it applied for a machine flighting Insider builds, but that's the niche case in Enterprise)

As a legitimate user of Enterprise Windows 10 for my business, no. The wording in the past has suggested that some "essential" data will still be sent. In the past "off" was "Security" and suggested that "data essential for security of the OS" would still be sent.

Fun fact, I'm not in the insider program at all, and have telemetry on "off. " I still get the updates and such. I just installed via a UUP ISO, and use WuMGR to fetch updates. It works fine.

windwhirl · Sep 22, 2021

R-T-B said:
As a legitimate user of Enterprise Windows 10 for my business, no. The wording in the past has suggested that some "essential" data will still be sent. In the past "off" was "Security" and suggested that "data essential for security of the OS" would still be sent.

Ah. Then was it LTSC/LTSB that had the option?

R-T-B said:
I just installed via a UUP ISO, and use WuMGR to fetch updates. It works fine.

Ah, my guess was correct after all?

windwhirl said:
For Windows insider builds, Windows Update checks whether you have "optional" diagnostic data enabled. If you don't, it won't provide new insider builds.

Not sure if you can get around that through some hack (maybe with wumgr?), but if you don't get new build updates, it might be that.

Shou Miko · Sep 23, 2021

R-T-B said:
A note for those on enterprise SKUs, the policy wording has changed on telemetry. It appears enterprise SKUs can now completely disable telemetry, if the wording is to be believed (great for my organization):

View attachment 217867

Note:
The "Configure diagnostic data opt-in settings user interface" group policy can be used to prevent end users from changing their data collection settings.

I will be modifing and properly reinstall my Windows 11 Pro when the official version comes out to cut out more crap even I feel Windows 11 runs better then Windows 10 which means for me not as many issues.

I work with Windows 10 on a daily basics and other Microsoft application for customers and when I come home and use my gaming rig and my laptop they just feel better and faster.

windwhirl said:
Ah. Then was it LTSC/LTSB that had the option?

LSTC/LTSB ain't that just for companies have to fractal application that doesn't run well with every big update Microsoft releases?

Rock N Roll Rebel · Sep 23, 2021

windows 11 build 22463.1000 is out I'm installing it now
Windows 11 Build 22463 is rolling out with minor improvements (windowslatest.com)

R-T-B · Sep 23, 2021

windwhirl said:
Ah. Then was it LTSC/LTSB that had the option?

They both shared the same reduced telemetry option. No one could turn it completely off until now AFAIK.

johnspack · Sep 23, 2021

Well, I got slapped for talking about win11. Very sorry. I'll stay out of here from now on. It's too leet for me!
Need leet hardware, leet talk, leet pocketbooks. God I'm so glad I'm linux now!!!!!

R-T-B · Sep 23, 2021

johnspack said:
Well, I got slapped for talking about win11. Very sorry. I'll stay out of here from now on. It's too leet for me!
Need leet hardware, leet talk, leet pocketbooks. God I'm so glad I'm linux now!!!!!

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lexluthermiester · Sep 23, 2021

johnspack said:
I'll stay out of here from now on.

You don't need to go, just stay focused in Windows 11 and things associated with it and you're good.

xrobwx71 · Sep 23, 2021

ThrashZone said:
they use defender as their only security lol of course you need all this new security hoops because defender is just that f'ing bad

This is absolutely incorrect. It's not 2012 anymore, move on.

Chomiq · Sep 23, 2021

And they want Teams to be built into W11?

Notice weird tab layout, Files tab is nowhere to be seen

Go to [...], select Manage Channel, go back to channel:

That thing has been popping in and out for over a month now.

Switch to a different channel and go back... and it's f'd again:

las · Sep 23, 2021

I have been running 11 for months on my work pc. Nothing truly different from 10. Context menu on 11 is worse than 10.

Not sure if taskbar is better or worse..

theFOoL · Sep 23, 2021

las said:
I have been running 11 for months on my work pc. Nothing truly different from 10. Context menu on 11 is worse than 10.

Not sure if taskbar is better or worse..

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Processor	Ryzen 7 5800X3D
Motherboard	Gigabyte X570 Aorus Elite
Cooling	Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE
Memory	2x16 GB Crucial Ballistix 3600 CL16 Rev E @ 3800 CL16
Video Card(s)	RTX3080 Ti FE
Storage	SX8200 Pro 1 TB, Plextor M6Pro 256 GB, WD Blue 2TB
Display(s)	LG 34GN850P-B
Case	SilverStone Primera PM01 RGB
Audio Device(s)	SoundBlaster G6 \| Fidelio X2 \| Sennheiser 6XX
Power Supply	SeaSonic Focus Plus Gold 750W
Mouse	Endgame Gear XM1R
Keyboard	Wooting Two HE

System Name	BoX-Server \| 775PC
Processor	I3 3.5GHZ (3150) \| Modded Xeon E5450 (OC @3.60)
Motherboard	ASRock B85M-ITX \| ASUS P5Q-EM
Cooling	OEZM HSK \| 92MM Heatsink RGB
Memory	8GB DDR3 \| 8GB DDR2
Video Card(s)	Onboard \| NVIDIA Quadro K2200 4GB
Storage	120GB SSD 1TB WD \| 120GB SSD 1TB Seagate 500GB HDD <<
Display(s)	DELL 17" LCD 1280x1024 \| ASUS 24" LCD IPS
Case	CoolerMaster 110 \| RoseWill ZIRCON
Audio Device(s)	Onboard
Power Supply	Rosewill 610WATT \| Rosewill 550WATT
Mouse	Input-Director\| RoseWill FUSION C40
Keyboard	Input-Director \| RoseWill FUSION
Software	Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit

System Name	Graphics Card Free...
Processor	Ryzen 5 5600G
Motherboard	MSI B450 Gaming Plus MAX Wifi
Cooling	Cryorig M9a w/ BeQuiet! PureWings 2 ~ 92mm
Memory	Corsair Dominator Platinum DDR4 3200 ~ 16GB(2x8GB)
Storage	Samsung EVO 870 SSD - 1TB
Display(s)	AOC 24G2
Case	Cardboard...
Power Supply	eVGA SuperNova 550w G3
Mouse	Logitech t400 Zone Touch Mouse
Keyboard	IBM Model "M" Keyboard
Software	Manjaro ~ KDE Plasma
Benchmark Scores	She's a Runner!

System Name	Core i9 rig / Lenovo laptop
Processor	Core i9 10900X / Core i5 8350U
Motherboard	Asus Prime X299 Edition 30 / Lenovo motherboard
Cooling	Corsair H115i PRO RGB / stock cooler
Memory	Gskill 4x8GB 3600mhz / 16GB 2400mhz
Video Card(s)	Asus ROG Strix RTX 2080 Super / UHD 620
Storage	Samsung SSD 970 PRO 1TB / Samsung OEM 256GB NVMe
Display(s)	Dell UltraSharp UP3017 / Full HD IPS touch
Case	Coolermaster mastercase H500M
Audio Device(s)	Onboard sound
Power Supply	Enermax Platimax 1700 watt / Lenovo 65watt power adapter
Mouse	Logitech M500s
Keyboard	Cherry
Software	Windows 11 Pro / Windows 11 Pro

System Name	Alienware PC
Processor	Intel 4790K
Motherboard	ASROCK Z97 EXTREME4
Cooling	Stock Intel Cooler
Memory	32GB DDR3 1600 MHz
Video Card(s)	ATI Radeon HD 7770 2GB GDDR5
Storage	SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2
Display(s)	SAMSUNG UE57 Series 28-Inch 4K UHD
Case	Alienware Area 51 Black Tower Case
Audio Device(s)	Realtek On Board
Power Supply	EVGA 850 watt
Mouse	Microsoft Wireless
Keyboard	HyperX - Alloy Elite 2 Mechanical Gaming Keyboard.
Software	Windows 10 Pro & LTSB & LTSC Windows 11 Pro

System Name	System V
Processor	AMD Ryzen 5 3600
Motherboard	Asus Prime X570-P
Cooling	Cooler Master Hyper 212 // a bunch of 120 mm Xigmatek 1500 RPM fans (2 ins, 3 outs)
Memory	2x8GB Ballistix Sport LT 3200 MHz (BLS8G4D32AESCK.M8FE) (CL16-18-18-36)
Video Card(s)	Gigabyte AORUS Radeon RX 580 8 GB
Storage	SHFS37A240G / DT01ACA200 / WD20EZRX / ST10000VN0008 / SA400S37960G / SNV21000G / NM620 2TB
Display(s)	LG 22MP55 IPS Display
Case	NZXT Source 210
Audio Device(s)	Logitech G430 Headset
Power Supply	Corsair CX650M
Software	Whatever build of Windows 11 is being served in Canary channel at the time.
Benchmark Scores	Corona 1.3: 3120620 r/s Cinebench R20: 3355 FireStrike: 12490 TimeSpy: 4624

System Name	Pioneer
Processor	Ryzen R9 7950X
Motherboard	GIGABYTE Aorus Elite X670 AX
Cooling	Noctua NH-D15 + A whole lotta Sunon and Corsair Maglev blower fans...
Memory	64GB (4x 16GB) G.Skill Flare X5 @ DDR5-6000 CL30
Video Card(s)	XFX RX 7900 XTX Speedster Merc 310
Storage	Intel 905p Optane 960GB boot, +2x Crucial P5 Plus 2TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSDs
Display(s)	55" LG 55" B9 OLED 4K Display
Case	Thermaltake Core X31
Audio Device(s)	TOSLINK->Schiit Modi MB->Asgard 2 DAC Amp->AKG Pro K712 Headphones or HDMI->B9 OLED
Power Supply	FSP Hydro Ti Pro 850W
Mouse	Logitech G305 Lightspeed Wireless
Keyboard	WASD Code v3 with Cherry Green keyswitches + PBT DS keycaps
Software	Gentoo Linux x64 / Windows 11 Enterprise IoT 2024

System Name	Lynni PS \ Lenowo TwinkPad L14 G2
Processor	AMD Ryzen 7 7700 Raphael \ i5-1135G7 Tiger Lake-U
Motherboard	ASRock B650M PG Riptide Bios v. 2.02 AMD AGESA 1.1.0.0 \ Lenowo BDPLANAR Bios 1.68
Cooling	Noctua NH-D15 Chromax.Black (Only middle fan) \ Lenowo C-267C-2
Memory	G.Skill Flare X5 2x16GB DDR5 6000MHZ CL36-36-36-96 AMD EXPO \ Willk Elektronik 2x16GB 2666MHZ CL17
Video Card(s)	Asus GeForce RTX™ 4070 Dual OC GPU: 2325-2355 MEM: 1462\| Intel® Iris® Xe Graphics
Storage	Gigabyte M30 1TB\|Sabrent Rocket 2TB\| HDD: 10TB\|1TB \ WD RED SN700 1TB
Display(s)	LG UltraGear 27GP850-B 1440p@165Hz \| LG 48CX OLED 4K HDR \| Innolux 14" 1080p
Case	Asus Prime AP201 White Mesh \| Lenowo L14 G2 chassis
Audio Device(s)	Steelseries Arctis Pro Wireless
Power Supply	Be Quiet! Pure Power 12 M 750W Goldie \| 65W
Mouse	Logitech G305 Lightspeedy Wireless \| Lenowo TouchPad & Logitech G305
Keyboard	Ducky One 3 Daybreak Fullsize \| L14 G2 UK Lumi
Software	Win11 Pro 23H2 UK \| Arch (Fan)
Benchmark Scores	3DMARK: https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/89434432? GPU-Z: https://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/details/v3zbr

System Name	ROG MACHINE
Processor	Ryzen 9 5950x
Motherboard	Crosshair viii Hero
Cooling	NZXT Kraken Z 73 my corsair H115i kicked the bucket corsair sucks lol
Memory	g-skill rgb 64gb 4x16gb ddr4 3200mgz
Video Card(s)	MSI Ventus 3x oc 3080
Storage	Sabren rocket gen 4 2tb m.2/ samsung 960 evo 1tb m.2/ 3x toshiba 3tb hdd , 10tb seagate, 16tb seagat
Display(s)	Acer 4k monitor/ Samsung C34J79x 34 inch curved monitor
Case	thermal take view 71 rgb
Audio Device(s)	creative ae-5 sound card
Power Supply	corsair AX 1200i 1200 watt psu
Mouse	ROG CHAKRAM
Keyboard	corsair k95
Software	windows 11 pro 64bit

System Name	System2 Blacknet , System1 Blacknet2
Processor	System2 Threadripper 1920x, System1 2699 v3
Motherboard	System2 Asrock Fatality x399 Professional Gaming, System1 Asus X99-A
Cooling	System2 Noctua NH-U14 TR4-SP3 Dual 140mm fans, System1 AIO
Memory	System2 64GBS DDR4 3000, System1 32gbs DDR4 2400
Video Card(s)	System2 GTX 980Ti System1 GTX 970
Storage	System2 4x SSDs + NVme= 2.250TB 2xStorage Drives=8TB System1 3x SSDs=2TB
Display(s)	2x 24" 1080 displays
Case	System2 Some Nzxt case with soundproofing...
Audio Device(s)	Asus Xonar U7 MKII
Power Supply	System2 EVGA 750 Watt, System1 XFX XTR 750 Watt
Mouse	Logitech G900 Chaos Spectrum
Keyboard	Ducky
Software	Archlinux, Manjaro, Windows 10
Benchmark Scores	It's linux baby!

System Name	EventHorizon
Processor	Intel® Core™ Processor i9-13900KF 8P/16 + 16E 3.00GHz [Turbo 5.7GHz] 36MB Cache LGA1700
Motherboard	ASUS PRIME Z790-P
Cooling	CyberpowerPC MasterLiquid Lite 240mm ARGB CPU Liquid Cooler
Memory	32GB (16GBx2) DDR5/6000MHz Dual Channel Memory (KINGSTON FURY BEAST RGB)
Video Card(s)	GeForce RTX™ 4080 16GB
Storage	2TB WD BLACK SN850X (PCIe Gen4) NVMe M.2 SSD - Seq R/W: Up to 7300/6600 MB/s, Rnd R/W up to 1200/110
Display(s)	LG 34''
Case	CyberPowerPC HYTE Y60 Dual Chamber Mid-Tower Gaming Case w/ Panoramic View Tempered Glass + 2x120mm
Audio Device(s)	Asus Strix w/Alan Finote mod for Windows 11
Power Supply	High Power 1300W 80+ GOLD Full Modular w/ PCIE 12+4Pins Connector for PCIe 5.0 graphics cards
Mouse	Steelseries Rival 600 wired
Keyboard	Steelseries Apex 7 TKL red Switch
Software	Win 11 Pro

System Name	Obsolete / Waiting for Zen 5 or Arrow Lake
Processor	i9-9900K @ 5.2 GHz @ 1.35v / No AVX Offset
Motherboard	AsRock Z390 Taichi
Cooling	Custom Water
Memory	32GB G.Skill @ 4000/CL15
Video Card(s)	Gainward RTX 4090 Phantom / Undervolt + OC
Storage	Samsung 990 Pro 2TB + WD SN850X 1TB + 64TB NAS/Server
Display(s)	27" 1440p IPS @ 280 Hz + 77" QD-OLED @ 144 Hz VRR
Case	Fractal Design Meshify C
Audio Device(s)	Asus Essence STX / Upgraded Op-Amps
Power Supply	Corsair RM1000x / Native 12VHPWR
Mouse	Logitech G Pro Wireless Superlight
Keyboard	Corsair K60 Pro / MX Low Profile Speed
Software	Windows 10 Pro x64

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