Windows 11 General Discussion

[lexluthermiester]

Wouldn't the time be linked to you M$ Account for some strange reason idk ha

I want to say no because not everyone is going to have an ms account. They might try to force the creation of one, but as of right now it is not a hard requirement.

 

[theFOoL]

The thing I always pissed me off is regardless if I set my time upon setup it'd always go to pst time and not cst time and force me to change it on each time I'd install on a new computer. Why...

 

[Deleted member 24505]

Anyone noticed the new look paint? swanky

 

[Hugis]

Anyone noticed the new look paint? swanky
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Did you get it yet? I looked couldn't find it

 

[Deleted member 24505]

Did you get it yet? I looked couldn't find it

Yes that's off my PC

 

[windwhirl]

Wouldn't the time be linked to you M$ Account for some strange reason idk ha

Nah, MS account is only required for home editions. I imagine @lexluthermiester went for Pro?

The thing I always pissed me off is regardless if I set my time upon setup it'd always go to pst time and not cst time and force me to change it on each time I'd install on a new computer. Why...

Uh, tell the government to clean up their mess of timezones and daylight saving? Lol

Did you get it yet? I looked couldn't find it

You have to go to the Store and update your apps. Some people probably had the updated Paint app delivered to them already.

Mind you, this new version is shipping only to Windows 11 insiders. Not sure if it will be instantly available on the RTM release.

Quick note: It’s important to note that installing this version of Windows on unsupported hardware is not recommended since you may experience stability and problems, and the device may not even receive updates. Use these steps AT YOUR OWN RISK.

Be that as it may, and besides what Lex has already said, Microsoft also kinda left the door open with Dev builds actively not enforcing CPU model and TPM compliance, as long as all the other requirements are met (storage, RAM, etc)

 

[P4-630]

Update Start11 lets you move the taskbar in Windows 11

The next Start11 update will bring more options to customize Windows 11 in ways that Microsoft won’t let you

The folks at Stardock have announced another big update for Start11. Coming on October 7, the next update will bring additions like the ability to adjust the taskbar size, re-order quick access shortcut lists, and more. The update should let you customize Windows 11 to make it more personal, in...

www.onmsft.com

 

[lexluthermiester]

Nah, MS account is only required for home editions. I imagine @lexluthermiester went for Pro?

I've been testing both Home and Pro. However, I've not tested Home with build 176, 184 and 194 yet. Are they enforcing the account creation with Home now?

Update Start11 lets you move the taskbar in Windows 11

The next Start11 update will bring more options to customize Windows 11 in ways that Microsoft won’t let you

The folks at Stardock have announced another big update for Start11. Coming on October 7, the next update will bring additions like the ability to adjust the taskbar size, re-order quick access shortcut lists, and more. The update should let you customize Windows 11 to make it more personal, in...

www.onmsft.com

That can already be done with WinAeroTweaker.

 

[windwhirl]

I've been testing both Home and Pro. However, I've not tested Home with build 176, 184 and 194 yet. Are they enforcing the account creation with Home now?

I've not tested Home, but I thought they were still requiring it? I think you didn't have to keep it around, just for the install.
At least according to Microsoft

Windows 11 System Requirements - Microsoft Support

Learn about Windows 11 minimum system requirements and how to assess your upgrade eligibility.

support.microsoft.com

 

[Splinterdog]

Did I mention the irony that I had to install Win 11 with the bypass trick on my secondary rig because Win 11 would install okay with TPM on (full mobo/cpu compatibility etc), but would nor boot? even with a BIOS update.
Anyway, I've had smooth ride so far with nothing to report and when the time comes to install it on my main rig, it will be a clean install, even if it's a headache having to reinstall everything. At least it's clean that way and I'm not in a rush.

 

[theFOoL]

Did I mention the irony that I had to install Win 11 with the bypass trick on my secondary rig because Win 11 would install okay with TPM on (full mobo/cpu compatibility etc), but would nor boot? even with a BIOS update.
Anyway, I've had smooth ride so far with nothing to report and when the time comes to install it on my main rig, it will be a clean install, even if it's a headache having to reinstall everything. At least it's clean that way and I'm not in a rush.

Did you try a bios default? Hmm... So after it installs and after the restart after the first 1/2 setup it just doesn't boot and says "No OS" or whatever

And... What's with these preview updates on its fixes for earlier versions? I don't get it. Why haven't they updated lol

 

[lexluthermiester]

I've not tested Home, but I thought they were still requiring it?

I've got to grab the correct ISO, but I'll give it a test and report back.

 

[ThaiTaffy]

UL benchmarks are ready for Windows 11

Find out more at benchmarks.ul.com

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@R-T-B doesn't look like I'm alone

 

[theFOoL]

Ya can skip the sign in for M$ Account at set up

 

[R-T-B]

@R-T-B doesn't look like I'm alone

I'm sure you aren't if you don't limit it to the limited set of supported hardware.

And it will always drop performance, anyways. The question is how much. Newer supported hardware has less of a penalty, not none.

 

[Rock N Roll Rebel]

Mmm we'll see rabbit we'll see correct line "mmm you might rabbit you might" lol

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yep no update

 

[theFOoL]

yep no update

So now we or I wait lol. I did All cleaning with update cleaning and CCleaner

 

[lexluthermiester]

I've got to grab the correct ISO, but I'll give it a test and report back.

Ok, testing complete. Yes, Home does still require an ms account. So yes folks, go with Windows 11 Pro if you want a local account.

 

[OneMoar]

Switched to 11 a week ago no major issues to report other then some APP Launch weirdness xbox titles Apps not opening without a restart / crashing on launch

 

[Sybaris_Caesar]

I've avoided trekking here since I'm not gonna install W11 for a long time still. But are we talking about this:
Windows 11 will hobble gaming performance by default on some prebuilt PCs | PC Gamer

The thing to note, though, is that VBS is not enabled by default for all clean installs of Windows 11. I downloaded the latest ISO version of the OS in order to check VBS out on our test rig, but had to do some registry editing, and BIOS tweaking, in order to actually enable it. So, it's nothing to be concerned about if you're just grabbing a Windows 11 download for a fresh install yourself.


But Windows 11 PCs, built by the biggest OEMs, such as Dell, HP, and Lenovo, are looking likely to come with VBS as standard. What we're not clear about, however, is whether those companies' gaming brands will also have VBS enabled. Or whether system builders will be exempt and can continue to ship gaming PCs without VBS.

 

[johnspack]

It looks really good. And if i could afford 1000s for a new computer, I'm sure it would would run good. Still don't understand why people need windows though.
There are choices.

 

[ThaiTaffy]

Mainly brand awareness and popularity for example I'd guess a good percentage use IPhone's for the brand not the ease of use or security. Opensource os's are free so inherently have very little brand awareness, people know about Linux, Unix,temple os from users and word of mouth so the likelihood of someone who just uses their computer for emails, word processing and web browsing going with anything other than Mac or Microsoft is extremely slim. People also just aren't interested most of the time my brother in law is young and plays pc games occasionally but has no idea what ryzen is but understands the difference between intel models.

 

[R-T-B]

But are we talking about this:

We talked about it. Near nonissue since it can be turned off and only is on by default on cert'd hardware where the penalty is minimal anyways.

It looks really good. And if i could afford 1000s for a new computer, I'm sure it would would run good. Still don't understand why people need windows though.
There are choices.

Not for HDR there isn't, sadly.

My linux stint ended when I needed more than 32-bit color.

 

[ThaiTaffy]

Not for HDR there isn't, sadly.

My linux stint ended when I needed more than 32-bit color.

Really? Is that a licensing issue? I'm quite surprised since steam has been pushing Linux as an alternative.

Even using crappy HDR on my va panel TV is a requirement for me now.

 

[R-T-B]

Really? Is that a licensing issue? I'm quite surprised since steam has been pushing Linux as an alternative.

Even using crappy HDR on my va panel TV is a requirement for me now.

It's not a licensing issue. The frameworks under linux just don't exist yet, and the movement to get them working has been extremely underwhelming. Even the dxvk author says on the github issue for HDR on his software "not for 5-10 years" which is hardly encouraging...

At least now you can turn on 10bpc color... unfortunately it breaks steam, amonst other things.