Windows 11 General Discussion

windwhirl · Oct 5, 2021

Stefan Zwaneveld said:
So... Windows 11 is out. A bit disappointing. It's just the "old" 22000.194.
What have they done the last few weeks

Don't worry, they are probably already working on pushing an update next week (Patch Tuesday).

Flanker · Oct 5, 2021

Not showing up on my windows update yet. Oh well more time to back up and prepare for the shell shock

windwhirl · Oct 5, 2021

lexluthermiester said:
So if you're currently on that version you need to do nothing as you are already on the public release!

Actually, they might. For those that want to stick to RTM releases, remember to check if the computer has been switched off beta builds in the Windows Update section.

lexluthermiester said:
I headed over to the Windows11Forums to see if there was a solution to the Home version local account problem and I'm happy to say we found a way.

Great!

lexluthermiester said:
Not yet. The download links do not populate in all regions.

It seems it is available now. At least for Spanish (Mexico) distribution and over here in Argentina.

Flanker said:
Not showing up on my windows update yet. Oh well more time to back up and prepare for the shell shock

Rollout will be in stages. Microsoft will be evaluating "health" data from many PCs to decide which ones are ready to go now or later.

lexluthermiester · Oct 5, 2021

windwhirl said:
It seems it is available now.

Weird. Earlier today it gave the error that downloads would be available on the 5th.

windwhirl · Oct 5, 2021

lexluthermiester said:
Weird. Earlier today it gave the error that downloads would be available on the 5th.

Well, it is already October 5th in any region that's located east of the GMT-2 timezone :laugh:

Mussels · Oct 5, 2021

If updates

W1zzard said:
How to bypass the various Windows 11 installer requirements (TPM, CPU, etc)

Put the text at the bottom into a file bypass.reg

Copy the file onto your Windows 11 USB stick

Boot from the USB stick

At some point you'll see the "unsupported hardware" screen

Click "back"

Shift+F10

notepad

File -> Open

Enter *.* (so you can see the .reg file, and not only .txt files)

Right click bypass.reg

Merge

Close notepad and the command prompt

Click Next

Boom - Windows 11 without TPM

Code:

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Setup\LabConfig] "BypassTPMCheck"=dword:00000001 "BypassSecureBootCheck"=dword:00000001 "BypassRAMCheck"=dword:00000001 "BypassStorageCheck"=dword:00000001 "BypassCPUCheck"=dword:00000001

Only thing left now is to find an automated way to get windows updates on machines that dont pass the checks, or was that a beta/dev only thing?

tabascosauz · Oct 5, 2021

Anyone know a way to get rid of the default pinned/most used apps screen in Start menu? On Win 10 I used to just remove all the tiles so that it only showed the All Apps list. Here it seems even after I remove the Pinned and Recommended sections, I'm just left with a blank default screen that I can't disable, and can't get All Apps to show by default.

Or is it still too early and MS might add the feature to Start Settings later? Win 11 at left, Win 10 after slimming down at right, Win 11 forces you to click All Apps

Anyhow it's zippy but it's still a little rough here and there.

windwhirl · Oct 5, 2021

tabascosauz said:
Anyone know a way to get rid of the default pinned/most used apps screen in Start menu? On Win 10 I used to just remove all the tiles so that it only showed the All Apps list. Here it seems even after I remove the Pinned and Recommended sections, I'm just left with a blank default screen that I can't disable, and can't get All Apps to show by default.

Or is it still too early and MS might add the feature to Start Settings later? Win 11 at left, Win 10 after slimming down at right, Win 11 forces you to click All Apps

View attachment 219513 View attachment 219512

Anyhow it's zippy but it's still a little rough here and there.

AFAIK, that's how it's supposed to be. Either you fill up the upper space with pinned apps or leave it empty. Same with the recommended section.

You don't get to have the Start menu immediately show you the All apps list.

toilet pepper · Oct 5, 2021

Is it me or the startup when logging in to Windows is way too slow. I don't have any applications that starts on startup. It is installed on an NVME.

lexluthermiester · Oct 5, 2021

tabascosauz said:
Anyone know a way to get rid of the default pinned/most used apps screen in Start menu? On Win 10 I used to just remove all the tiles so that it only showed the All Apps list. Here it seems even after I remove the Pinned and Recommended sections, I'm just left with a blank default screen that I can't disable, and can't get All Apps to show by default.

Or is it still too early and MS might add the feature to Start Settings later? Win 11 at left, Win 10 after slimming down at right, Win 11 forces you to click All Apps

View attachment 219513 View attachment 219512

Anyhow it's zippy but it's still a little rough here and there.

As Windwhirl said, that's the way it's intended. I kinda like it, but am still going to use OpenShell once they work out the kinks for the final version.

toilet pepper said:
Is it me or the startup when logging in to Windows is way too slow. I don't have any applications that starts on startup. It is installed on an NVME.

Not here. Perfectly smooth & snappy for me..

tabascosauz · Oct 5, 2021

windwhirl said:
AFAIK, that's how it's supposed to be. Either you fill up the upper space with pinned apps or leave it empty. Same with the recommended section.

You don't get to have the Start menu immediately show you the All apps list.

lexluthermiester said:
As Windwhirl said, that the way it's intended. I kinda like it, but am still going to use OpenShell once they work out the kinks for the final version.

I guess I'll get used to it if they don't change it. It's not that I hate it, it's just kind of redundant since I usually hide recent/recommended apps. I do pin some though.

toilet pepper said:
Is it me or the startup when logging in to Windows is way too slow. I don't have any applications that starts on startup. It is installed on an NVME.

Not here, it's the same as Win 10. Fast startup (hibernate) disabled, with long POST wait from no boot logo/original American Megatrends POST screen......13.6 seconds. Did you clean install?

Once I get around to updating my HTPC it'll probably be faster as it usually boots in 7-8 seconds since it's iGPU only.

edit: if you mean the Welcome spinner after logging in, it's also same as Win 10 like 2 seconds.

toilet pepper · Oct 5, 2021

tabascosauz said:
I guess I'll get used to it if they don't change it. It's not that I hate it, it's just kind of redundant since I usually hide recent/recommended apps. I do pin some though.

Not here, it's the same as Win 10. Fast startup (hibernate) disabled, with long POST wait from no boot logo/original American Megatrends POST screen......13.6 seconds. Did you clean install?

Once I get around to updating my HTPC it'll probably be faster as it usually boots in 7-8 seconds since it's iGPU only.

edit: if you mean the Welcome spinner after logging in, it's also same as Win 10 like 2 seconds.

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It is a clean install. Bios is fast but when I enter my password to login to Win11 it takes maybe 20 seconds.

windwhirl · Oct 5, 2021

toilet pepper said:
It is a clean install. Bios is fast but when I enter my password to login to Win11 it takes maybe 20 seconds.

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Windows 10 usually started things in the background even when you were not logged in. So when you did log in you usually stumbled upon everything already loading or loaded.

Windows 11 will wait until the user has provided their credentials first before doing anything.

toilet pepper · Oct 5, 2021

windwhirl said:
Windows 10 usually started things in the background even when you were not logged in. So when you did log in you usually stumbled upon everything already loading or loaded.

Windows 11 will wait until the user has provided their credentials first before doing anything.

Welp that makes sense now. I reckon having a gen3 of gen4 ssd would speed things up.

lexluthermiester · Oct 5, 2021

toilet pepper said:
I reckon having a gen3 of gen4 ssd would speed things up.

Not enough for you to notice..

Space Lynx · Oct 5, 2021

Flanker said:
Not showing up on my windows update yet. Oh well more time to back up and prepare for the shell shock

KNOCK KNOCK YOU ABOUT TO GET SHELL SHOCKED :love:

Mussels · Oct 5, 2021

My main system has instant logins (clean install, pure NVME goodness)

My second system has the slower logins, dirty upgrade on SATA. Be curious to see if it smooths out after a few reboots.

FireFox · Oct 5, 2021

I won't do the clean install for now, instead will do the noob install, keep files and settings. :cool:

lexluthermiester · Oct 5, 2021

Ok for those who want the original right-click context menu back,

Disable "Show more options" context menu in Windows 11

This tutorial will show you how to enable or disable having to click on "Show more options" to see the full context menu for your account or all users in Windows 11. When you right click on an item in Windows 11, you will see a new modern condensed context menu with Show more options...

www.elevenforum.com

Thanks to Brink!

With this reg fix I think Windows 11 is dialed in! Only thing left is Open Shell, but that is in the works.

W1zzard · Oct 5, 2021

Mussels said:
If updates

Only thing left now is to find an automated way to get windows updates on machines that dont pass the checks, or was that a beta/dev only thing?

seems to be working fine (vm without tpm)

Mussels · Oct 5, 2021

You know what, i'll test it out on my laptop so i can answer it myself when people ask if it changes over time

Stefan Zwaneveld · Oct 5, 2021

Mussels said:
If updates

Only thing left now is to find an automated way to get windows updates on machines that dont pass the checks, or was that a beta/dev only thing?

W1zzard said:
How to bypass the various Windows 11 installer requirements (TPM, CPU, etc)

Put the text at the bottom into a file bypass.reg

Copy the file onto your Windows 11 USB stick

Boot from the USB stick

At some point you'll see the "unsupported hardware" screen

Click "back"

Shift+F10

notepad

File -> Open

Enter *.* (so you can see the .reg file, and not only .txt files)

Right click bypass.reg

Merge

Close notepad and the command prompt

Click Next

Boom - Windows 11 without TPM

Code:

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Setup\LabConfig] "BypassTPMCheck"=dword:00000001 "BypassSecureBootCheck"=dword:00000001 "BypassRAMCheck"=dword:00000001 "BypassStorageCheck"=dword:00000001 "BypassCPUCheck"=dword:00000001

With the "windows Registry Version 5.00" text or without.

W1zzard · Oct 5, 2021

Stefan Zwaneveld said:
With the "windows Registry Version 5.00" text or without.

With

Stefan Zwaneveld · Oct 5, 2021

Ok, thanks

Deleted member 24505 · Oct 5, 2021

reinstalled with the official iso, from the beta. Have got TPM and secure boot on, installed sweet, zero problems. If i have tpm and secure boot available i may as well use them i guess.

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