Windows 11 General Discussion

[windwhirl]

So... Windows 11 is out. A bit disappointing. It's just the "old" 22000.194.
What have they done the last few weeks

Don't worry, they are probably already working on pushing an update next week (Patch Tuesday).

 

[Flanker]

Not showing up on my windows update yet. Oh well more time to back up and prepare for the shell shock

 

[windwhirl]

So if you're currently on that version you need to do nothing as you are already on the public release!

Actually, they might. For those that want to stick to RTM releases, remember to check if the computer has been switched off beta builds in the Windows Update section.

I headed over to the Windows11Forums to see if there was a solution to the Home version local account problem and I'm happy to say we found a way.

Great!

Not yet. The download links do not populate in all regions.

It seems it is available now. At least for Spanish (Mexico) distribution and over here in Argentina.

Not showing up on my windows update yet. Oh well more time to back up and prepare for the shell shock

Rollout will be in stages. Microsoft will be evaluating "health" data from many PCs to decide which ones are ready to go now or later.

 

[lexluthermiester]

It seems it is available now.

Weird. Earlier today it gave the error that downloads would be available on the 5th.

 

[windwhirl]

Weird. Earlier today it gave the error that downloads would be available on the 5th.

Well, it is already October 5th in any region that's located east of the GMT-2 timezone

 

[Mussels]

If updates

How to bypass the various Windows 11 installer requirements (TPM, CPU, etc)

• Put the text at the bottom into a file bypass.reg
• Copy the file onto your Windows 11 USB stick
• Boot from the USB stick
• At some point you'll see the "unsupported hardware" screen
• Click "back"
• Shift+F10
• notepad
• File -> Open
• Enter *.* (so you can see the .reg file, and not only .txt files)
• Right click bypass.reg
• Merge
• Close notepad and the command prompt
• Click Next
• Boom - Windows 11 without TPM

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Setup\LabConfig]
"BypassTPMCheck"=dword:00000001
"BypassSecureBootCheck"=dword:00000001
"BypassRAMCheck"=dword:00000001
"BypassStorageCheck"=dword:00000001
"BypassCPUCheck"=dword:00000001

Only thing left now is to find an automated way to get windows updates on machines that dont pass the checks, or was that a beta/dev only thing?

 

[tabascosauz]

Anyone know a way to get rid of the default pinned/most used apps screen in Start menu? On Win 10 I used to just remove all the tiles so that it only showed the All Apps list. Here it seems even after I remove the Pinned and Recommended sections, I'm just left with a blank default screen that I can't disable, and can't get All Apps to show by default.

Or is it still too early and MS might add the feature to Start Settings later? Win 11 at left, Win 10 after slimming down at right, Win 11 forces you to click All Apps

Anyhow it's zippy but it's still a little rough here and there.

 

[windwhirl]

Anyone know a way to get rid of the default pinned/most used apps screen in Start menu? On Win 10 I used to just remove all the tiles so that it only showed the All Apps list. Here it seems even after I remove the Pinned and Recommended sections, I'm just left with a blank default screen that I can't disable, and can't get All Apps to show by default.

Or is it still too early and MS might add the feature to Start Settings later? Win 11 at left, Win 10 after slimming down at right, Win 11 forces you to click All Apps

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Anyhow it's zippy but it's still a little rough here and there.

AFAIK, that's how it's supposed to be. Either you fill up the upper space with pinned apps or leave it empty. Same with the recommended section.

You don't get to have the Start menu immediately show you the All apps list.

 

[toilet pepper]

Is it me or the startup when logging in to Windows is way too slow. I don't have any applications that starts on startup. It is installed on an NVME.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Anyone know a way to get rid of the default pinned/most used apps screen in Start menu? On Win 10 I used to just remove all the tiles so that it only showed the All Apps list. Here it seems even after I remove the Pinned and Recommended sections, I'm just left with a blank default screen that I can't disable, and can't get All Apps to show by default.

Or is it still too early and MS might add the feature to Start Settings later? Win 11 at left, Win 10 after slimming down at right, Win 11 forces you to click All Apps

View attachment 219513 View attachment 219512

Anyhow it's zippy but it's still a little rough here and there.

As Windwhirl said, that's the way it's intended. I kinda like it, but am still going to use OpenShell once they work out the kinks for the final version.

Is it me or the startup when logging in to Windows is way too slow. I don't have any applications that starts on startup. It is installed on an NVME.

Not here. Perfectly smooth & snappy for me..

 

[tabascosauz]

AFAIK, that's how it's supposed to be. Either you fill up the upper space with pinned apps or leave it empty. Same with the recommended section.

You don't get to have the Start menu immediately show you the All apps list.

As Windwhirl said, that the way it's intended. I kinda like it, but am still going to use OpenShell once they work out the kinks for the final version.

I guess I'll get used to it if they don't change it. It's not that I hate it, it's just kind of redundant since I usually hide recent/recommended apps. I do pin some though.

Is it me or the startup when logging in to Windows is way too slow. I don't have any applications that starts on startup. It is installed on an NVME.

Not here, it's the same as Win 10. Fast startup (hibernate) disabled, with long POST wait from no boot logo/original American Megatrends POST screen......13.6 seconds. Did you clean install?

Once I get around to updating my HTPC it'll probably be faster as it usually boots in 7-8 seconds since it's iGPU only.

edit: if you mean the Welcome spinner after logging in, it's also same as Win 10 like 2 seconds.

 

[toilet pepper]

I guess I'll get used to it if they don't change it. It's not that I hate it, it's just kind of redundant since I usually hide recent/recommended apps. I do pin some though.



Not here, it's the same as Win 10. Fast startup (hibernate) disabled, with long POST wait from no boot logo/original American Megatrends POST screen......13.6 seconds. Did you clean install?

Once I get around to updating my HTPC it'll probably be faster as it usually boots in 7-8 seconds since it's iGPU only.

edit: if you mean the Welcome spinner after logging in, it's also same as Win 10 like 2 seconds.

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It is a clean install. Bios is fast but when I enter my password to login to Win11 it takes maybe 20 seconds.

 

[windwhirl]

It is a clean install. Bios is fast but when I enter my password to login to Win11 it takes maybe 20 seconds.

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Windows 10 usually started things in the background even when you were not logged in. So when you did log in you usually stumbled upon everything already loading or loaded.

Windows 11 will wait until the user has provided their credentials first before doing anything.

 

[toilet pepper]

Windows 10 usually started things in the background even when you were not logged in. So when you did log in you usually stumbled upon everything already loading or loaded.

Windows 11 will wait until the user has provided their credentials first before doing anything.

Welp that makes sense now. I reckon having a gen3 of gen4 ssd would speed things up.

 

[lexluthermiester]

I reckon having a gen3 of gen4 ssd would speed things up.

Not enough for you to notice..

 

[Space Lynx]

Not showing up on my windows update yet. Oh well more time to back up and prepare for the shell shock

KNOCK KNOCK YOU ABOUT TO GET SHELL SHOCKED

 

[Mussels]

My main system has instant logins (clean install, pure NVME goodness)

My second system has the slower logins, dirty upgrade on SATA. Be curious to see if it smooths out after a few reboots.

 

[FireFox]

I won't do the clean install for now, instead will do the noob install, keep files and settings.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Ok for those who want the original right-click context menu back,

Disable "Show more options" context menu in Windows 11

This tutorial will show you how to enable or disable having to click on "Show more options" to see the full context menu for your account or all users in Windows 11. When you right click on an item in Windows 11, you will see a new modern condensed context menu with Show more options...

www.elevenforum.com

Thanks to Brink!

With this reg fix I think Windows 11 is dialed in! Only thing left is Open Shell, but that is in the works.

 

[W1zzard]

If updates

Only thing left now is to find an automated way to get windows updates on machines that dont pass the checks, or was that a beta/dev only thing?

seems to be working fine (vm without tpm)

 

[Mussels]

You know what, i'll test it out on my laptop so i can answer it myself when people ask if it changes over time

 

[Stefan Zwaneveld]

If updates

Only thing left now is to find an automated way to get windows updates on machines that dont pass the checks, or was that a beta/dev only thing?

How to bypass the various Windows 11 installer requirements (TPM, CPU, etc)

• Put the text at the bottom into a file bypass.reg
• Copy the file onto your Windows 11 USB stick
• Boot from the USB stick
• At some point you'll see the "unsupported hardware" screen
• Click "back"
• Shift+F10
• notepad
• File -> Open
• Enter *.* (so you can see the .reg file, and not only .txt files)
• Right click bypass.reg
• Merge
• Close notepad and the command prompt
• Click Next
• Boom - Windows 11 without TPM

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Setup\LabConfig]
"BypassTPMCheck"=dword:00000001
"BypassSecureBootCheck"=dword:00000001
"BypassRAMCheck"=dword:00000001
"BypassStorageCheck"=dword:00000001
"BypassCPUCheck"=dword:00000001

With the "windows Registry Version 5.00" text or without.

 

[W1zzard]

With the "windows Registry Version 5.00" text or without.

With

 

[Stefan Zwaneveld]

Ok, thanks

 

[Deleted member 24505]

reinstalled with the official iso, from the beta. Have got TPM and secure boot on, installed sweet, zero problems. If i have tpm and secure boot available i may as well use them i guess.