Windows 11 General Discussion

[lexluthermiester]

just installed ghost spectre win 10 superlite

I missed this earlier.. WTH?!?

Heya all, i cant seem to get openshell working on my laptop (works fine on my desktop) any one got any advice?

Did you remember to open the settings and change the Start Button? Otherwise OpenShell does not show up on the taskbar.

Dohhh brain fart i forgot to change the icon for it to work what i muppet i am lol

Oops, guess I should have scrolled down a bit before hitting the button... Now I'm the plank...

 

[FireFox]

The taskbar piss me off but this even more

 

[windwhirl]

I have questions about windows 11
can i set the all app view on the start menu as the default?

I don't think so. The current default view (pinned apps + recommended/recent files and apps) is the only one officially available.

Though I imagine someone is working on finding a way.

 

[SomeOne99h]

got my work laptop all done with a full clean install of win 11. i did change the taskbar to icons to left like normal, couldn't stand the center icons. but was an easy fix.

overall I like it, but for some reason my internet speed slowed down to 1/3 the speed i was getting... and yes i updated all drivers manually, and i even let M$ do optional driver installs for me

My wifi card is TP-LINK 150Mbps (Original drivers name), but HWinfo shows the chipset of the card right away!
Unknown Device Identifier shows the name of the card by its driver, but once you click it, it will show you the chipset that is used for the card.

Free Download HWiNFO Sofware | Installer & Portable for Windows, DOS

Start to analyze your hardware right now! HWiNFO has available as an Installer and Portable version for Windows (32/64-bit) and Portable version for DOS.

www.hwinfo.com

https://www.zhangduo.com/udi.html (After installation, It will put a shorcut to the desktop to authorsoft web site. Don't worry. Not malware.

 

[LifeOnMars]

I missed this earlier.. WTH?!?

I've been curious to try it and with AMD having some issues at the moment with Windows 11 (Even though I had none) I thought I would give it a bash. It's so streamlined and smooth I'm loving it but I know once 11 has matured a tiny bit I'll go back as I really didn't mind it that much. Honestly though, some of my minimums have gone up or are a lot more stable and everything just feels great, it's an excellent custom iso and the guy is already working on an 11 variant. If he accepted donations I would gladly donate.

 

[lexluthermiester]

I've been curious to try it and with AMD having some issues at the moment with Windows 11 (Even though I had none) I thought I would give it a bash. It's so streamlined and smooth I'm loving it but I know once 11 has matured a tiny bit I'll go back as I really didn't mind it that much. Honestly though, some of my minimums have gone up or are a lot more stable and everything just feels great, it's an excellent custom iso and the guy is already working on an 11 variant. If he accepted donations I would gladly donate.

Are you talking about a custom distro of Win10 then?

 

[LifeOnMars]

Are you talking about a custom distro of Win10 then?

Yes bud, ghost spectre superlite

 

[lexluthermiester]

Yes bud, ghost spectre superlite

Looked it up. Interesting.

 

[Mussels]

Windows 11 was fine and all but just installed ghost spectre win 10 superlite and it's awesomely smooth, fast with no guff. Best min fps I've had and has resolved some issues I had with games on standard win 10 installs. Highly recommended.

I'm not sure i'd ever trust a custom OS

This was a big deal in the XP days when the OS had so many flaws tweaking was almost mandatory (the days of under 100MB of RAM use for the OS were glorious) - but it's so easy for malware to slip in, or things to get broken.

Like when games need optional content... was it Halo that needed a second user account for dot.net or something, that broke for a lot of people?
Then stuff like Fallout 3, on a full OS has a popup *from windows* saying "hey woops you need this package cause we killed the server thing it used"
I dont mind tweak programs that let you disable/enable things with a GUI, but theres a HUGE concern about what people could have added, removed or broken to a custom OS - look at all the patchlogs for changes for examples of how you might be in the boat of non stop updates and fixes.

I can see the appeal for say, a backup OS or a gaming only OS. Security updates only, slim it right down... but not for a daily driver, and not for anything with security or reliability concerns (logins, banking, work, etc)

With 10/11 it becomes a huge problem too, as the moment you do a major OS update it's like a repair install, and bam it's all back to stock (or broken entirely)


Edit: It's a different provider but a perfect example of why i dont think many of these people are qualified to make these custom OS, or that their claims are founded in reality
(it was in my google results from looking at the other one)

Windows 11 Pro Lite ISO 32bit/64bit Download 2021 [1.74GB] (compressware.in)
"300MB ram usage!" (quoted on the YT video and elsewhere)

uhhhh.... that's 300MB ram *free*

 

[lexluthermiester]

I'm not sure i'd ever trust a custom OS

I try them out all the time. Most of them do exactly what they intend to and are solid.

Like when games need optional content... was it Halo that needed a second user account for dot.net or something, that broke for a lot of people?
Then stuff like Fallout 3, on a full OS has a popup *from windows* saying "hey woops you need this package cause we killed the server thing it used"
I dont mind tweak programs that let you disable/enable things with a GUI, but theres a HUGE concern about what people could have added, removed or broken to a custom OS - look at all the patchlogs for changes for examples of how you might be in the boat of non stop updates and fixes.

I think you're blowing things a bit out of proportion there.

I can see the appeal for say, a backup OS or a gaming only OS. Security updates only, slim it right down... but not for a daily driver, and not for anything with security or reliability concerns (logins, banking, work, etc)

I used custom ISOs for a time on my personal daily systems, to no ill effect. This was until I learned how to customize the OS myself on a low level basis. I have no fear jumping into the registry and making changes to my liking. This is not to say there is nothing to worry about with custom ISOs only that the bigger customizing groups have a reputation to protect and if it came out that their ISOs had malware & virii no one would trust them anymore. So those groups that actual care about what they do go out of their way to make sure nothing "iffy" slips into anything they do. Just because they're not microsoft, doesn't mean they can't be trusted. Hell, there are two groups I trust MORE than microsoft as they focus on removing the microsoft spying, behind-the-back BS and sneaky crap ms tries to pull.

With 10/11 it becomes a huge problem too, as the moment you do a major OS update it's like a repair install, and bam it's all back to stock

Or you look for an updated custom ISO and do an in-place update with the installer. It's not that difficult and does not cause a mess. Again, I think you're over-reacting as I've never had the problems you're talking about.

Hell, during the Windows 11 Beta run, I tested out a few of the custom builds that were created and they all worked as intended. The catch is to use custom ISOs from groups that have earned a reputation of being trustworthy.

 

[Mussels]

I try them out all the time. Most of them do exactly what they intend too and are solid.

I think you're blowing things a bit out of proportion there.

I used custom ISOs for a time on my personal daily systems, to no ill effect. This was until I learned how to customize the OS myself on a low level basis. I have no fear jumping into the registry and making changes to my liking. This is not to say there is nothing to worry about with custom ISOs only that the bigger customizing groups have a reputation to protect and if it came out that their ISOs had malware & virii no one would trust them anymore. So they groups that actual care about what they do go out of their way to make sure nothing "iffy" slips into anything they do. Just because they're not microsoft, doesn't mean they can't be trusted. Hell there are two groups I trust MORE than microsoft as they focus on removing the microsoft spying, behind-the-back BS and sneaky crap ms tries to pull.

Or you look for an updated custom ISO and do an in-place update with the installer. It's not that difficult and does not cause a mess. Again, I think you over-reacting as I've never had the problems you're talking about.

Hell, during the Windows 11 Beta run, I tested out a few of the custom builds that were created and they all worked as intended. The catch is to use custom ISOs from groups that have earned a reputation of being trustworthy.

Those game issues are something i legit saw, i ran LAN parties and we had "XP dark" and a few custom named versions of 7/8.1 that literally had those issues.
When i had to fix them 30 or 40 times each, it's not exactly over-reacting... cut features come back to bite you in the ass (tweaks to disable them, not so much as the OS can re-enable them)

For real, for every legit tweaked one there is a thousand scam ones with malware. would you trust this one? The first result in youtube for "windows 11 lite" that i got?

 

[lexluthermiester]

"XP dark"

I heard about that. The group was trying to copy the boys who did the yearly "XP Black Edition" custom ISOs and failed to measure up.

would you trust this one?

Can't answer that one on face value. Haven't tested it. I run a number of very strict tests on every custom ISO I consider. If it fails even one test, it's out. If offerings from a particular group fail more than 3 times, I black-list them.

 

[FireFox]

I do things myself.
2 exact copies of windows, 1 main and 1 for testing purposes, disable all unnecessary crap ( mod registry ) on the second copy try it and see if it works then apply it to my main OS.

 

[LifeOnMars]

I get your take on it Mussels and respect everyone's experiences and choices on which form of OS they use. Update wise the guy has a custom tool updater built into the OS which evades the necessity for windows update, it was really just to see if I need to tweak my OS in regards the very minor game issues I've had with the official install of Windows 10 or if it was just down to my config of hardware. It has confirmed that there's definitely something within the official Windows 10 that has caused those issues from my testing with this custom iso. The vast majority of games run fantastic and great for me on a vanilla install of Pro just had problems with a small handful and it triggered my OCD

I will run official 11 but just waiting for them to confirm they have resolved the AMD issues. Once I'm back on 11 I'll try those same games and if they display the same issues I will educate myself on the relevant tweaking I need to do in order to rectify the problems. In general I like to be running an OS that is a close to vanilla as possible as I've found some tweaks come back to bite you in the future. Latency wise, my system has always been good but this ghost spectre 10 custom iso has improved it again, I see no spikes above 40.

 

[Shrek]

2021-10 Cumulative Update for Windows 11 for x64-based Systems (KB5006674)

22000.258

 

[windwhirl]

Microsoft puts the Windows Subsystem for Linux in its app store for faster updating

New WSL preview is available in the Microsoft Store for Windows 11 users now.

arstechnica.com

WSL is now available from the Microsoft Store. This is for now just a preview, it's the exact same version you get by enabling the feature on Windows, just a different way to get it.

Though it seems the long-term plan is to move all releases of WSL to the store, have them update independently from the main Windows version update.

 

[P4-630]

My 14" HP laptop has a i3 7100U CPU and only the CPU isn't supported...
Windows 10 till 2025, isn't that bad though, it's working fine.

 

[theFOoL]

So far I'm updating my WiN11 systems two on my 775 Build and on my HP pavilion x360 convertible 15 "which thanks to the reg bypass"

Just a cumulative update for Framework

 

[Hugis]

So did Microsoft back track on no updates for unsupported hardware? as i just got 22000.258?

 

[theFOoL]

I hate remembering the builds but I'm on 258 yes

 

[Hugis]

I hate remembering the builds but I'm on 258 yes that was the release version

22000.194 was the release version

 

[theFOoL]

22000.194 was the release version

Sorry my keyboard did that ah ha

Hmm I wonder how long until M$ has that *Fix for us unsupported on Beta/Dev to stop getting updates lol

 

[lexluthermiester]

I will run official 11 but just waiting for them to confirm they have resolved the AMD issues.

What issues?

 

[R-T-B]

What issues?

The "up to" 15% performance loss on the stable builds due to bad l3 cache scheduler crap on Ryzen (and only Ryzen). There was a news article on it. Dev branch already has a fix, but it has yet to be backported to stable.

 

[windwhirl]

So did Microsoft back track on no updates for unsupported hardware? as i just got 22000.258?
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No, they simply reserved the right to not provide updates. For all we know, they might push updates to everyone and anyone regardless of system specs for the rest of the decade.