Windows 11 General Discussion

[P4-630]

But now I hear Windows doesn't have VBS enabled by default on clean installs (plus OEMs are not enabling it completely either)

It's the other way around, it is enabled by clean installs and disabled by upgrade 10 to 11 only.

 

[R-T-B]

It's the other way around, it is enabled by clean installs and disabled by upgrade 10 to 11 only.

Not in my experience, or what the MS,docs state.

It's only enabled by default on OEMs that ship PCs, because MS makes them.

 

[P4-630]

Not in my experience, or what the MS,docs state.

I have posted this a while ago in this thread, it used to be like that.

What toms says now 1 day ago:

However, if you do a clean install of Windows 11 or buy a brand new laptop or desktop with Windows 11, you may have VBS / HVCI enabled by default.

How to Disable VBS and Speed Up Windows 11 or 10

Virtualization Based Security can slow apps (and games) down by 5 to 15%.

www.tomshardware.com

 

[Liquid Cool]

I just got a very interesting response when Windows 10 updates was checking a Core2 Quad machine without secure boot for Windows 11 compatibility

Andy, hello from next door here in Nebraska. I wanted to thank you for posting this message you received. Appreciative.....

When I do a PC Health Check with the software I downloaded from Microsoft's website, this is the screen I get after allowing the software to check for Windows 11 compatibility on my HP Pro x2 612 G2 with the Core m3-7y30 processor.



When I view this...the word that stands out to me is "currently". If you take it away from the sentence, it is definitive.

Although, in its current form...it is not.

LLM mentioned not to hold your breath and part of me has to agree with him...but frankly, I've always been a bit of a dreamer and when I add your statement with mine, I see a glimmer of sunshine peaking through very dark clouds.

I could be wrong, but I don't think so...not yet at least.

Best,

Liquid Cool

 

[Space Lynx]

Has anyone tried the new Shut Up 11? Shup Up Ten has been updated for Win 11.

I use ShutUpTen a lot and have never had any issues with it, so going to give it a go I think, just wanted to see others experience?

O&O ShutUp10++ - O&O Software GmbH

www.oo-software.com

 

[TxGrin]

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Andy, hello from next door here in Nebraska. I wanted to thank you for posting this message you received. Appreciative.....

When I do a PC Health Check with the software I downloaded from Microsoft's website, this is the screen I get after allowing the software to check for Windows 11 compatibility on my HP Pro x2 612 G2 with the Core m3-7y30 processor.

View attachment 219944

When I view this...the word that stands out to me is "currently". If you take it away from the sentence, it is definitive.

Although, in its current form...it is not.

LLM mentioned not to hold your breath and part of me has to agree with him...but frankly, I've always been a bit of a dreamer and when I add your statement with mine, I see a glimmer of sunshine peaking through very dark clouds.

I could be wrong, but I don't think so...not yet at least.

Best,

Liquid Cool

You can bypass the requirements by following this.

Microsoft shows how to bypass the requirements here with one command tried it on a older laptop works fine

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Setup\MoSetup]
"AllowUpgradesWithUnsupportedTPMOrCPU"=dword:00000001

1. Press the Windows + R buttons.
2. Type “regedit” in the box.
3. Select “Yes” in the prompt to allow Registry Editor to make changes to your device.
4. Create a registry backup by selecting “File” and choosing “Export”.
5. Choose a name for your backup and select “Save”.
6. Click the right arrow next to the “HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE” folder.
7. Click the right arrow next to the “SYSTEM” folder.
8. Click the right arrow next to the “Setup” folder.
9. Click on the “MoSetup” folder.
10. Right-click in the open space on the right.
11. Select “New” and choose “DWORD (32-bit) Value”.
12. Name the value “AllowUpgradesWithUnsupportedTPMOrCPU”.
13. Make the value data “1” with “Hexadecimal” base selected.
14. Close the Registry Editor.

Here is the link of microsoft showing how to bypass the requirements

Ways to install Windows 11 (microsoft.com)

 

[Liquid Cool]

Txgrin...

I read the article this morning, but thank you for commenting. Although, If the intent of my recent post wasn't clear...I apologize.

I'd prefer "official" recognition from Microsoft over bypassing and workarounds.

Regards,

Liquid Cool

P.S. Lynx...I've always used O&O Shutup10, I don't see why the 11 version would be any less stellar. Shutup10 has been perfect for me.

 

[Shrek]

Andy, hello from next door here in Nebraska. I wanted to thank you for posting this message you received. Appreciative.....

I think we should be thanking micro-soft.

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
Upgrade went pretty well I guess sfc /verifyonly showed nothing.
No gpt/ uefi/ secure boot/ tpm on 9940x rig although I believe my 9940x does qualify
Mounted iso without internet was the only way the back button was live otherwise I was stuck on the not compatible screen

Windows 11 TPM Requirement? Bypass it in 5 Minutes

So you have a $2,000 Core i7-6950X HEDT processor, which you thought would last forever, but Windows 11 Setup stands in your way with its steep system requirements that include TPM and Secure Boot. What do you do? With Windows 11, Microsoft introduced new requirements for compatible hardware...

www.techpowerup.com

 

[R-T-B]

I have posted this a while ago in this thread, it used to be like that.

But I literally did a clean install on release day and it wasn't on. I'm calling BS.

I'll gladly recant when one person posts saying it was on by default.

 

[Deleted member 24505]

But I literally did a clean install on release day and it wasn't on. I'm calling BS.

I'll gladly recant when one person posts saying it was on by default.

Mine was a clean install, from the official iso, made USB from windows tool. it was also off on mine.

 

[lexluthermiester]

If you didn't do a clean install, it's worth knowing that indexer, defender and so on all check your desktop folder

I know a lot of people who immediately dump gigabytes of crap onto their desktop, not realizing it slows things down (use a shortcut to a folder, not in the users folder)

This! Shut off the indexer(disable in Service section of the Management Console) and disable Win-defenders realtime scanning.

It's the other way around, it is enabled by clean installs and disabled by upgrade 10 to 11 only.

Nope. VBS is not enabled on clean installs. I've done 11 12(just finished one) so far and on each one VBS is disabled.

Not in my experience, or what the MS,docs state.

It's only enabled by default on OEMs that ship PCs, because MS makes them.

And that is only certain OEMS with particular system configurations.

 

[R-T-B]

And that is only certain OEMS with particular system configurations.

True, certain specialty manufacturers (Think Panasonic toughbooks and the like) are able to apply for exemptions. Most will likely get them. Enforcement of smallscale OEMs will most likely be nonexistant, too, so few if any will bother.

I really only expect it on on like say, Dell or HP or other major mainstream brands.

 

[Kurt63]

Forza Horizon 3 in Win 11 suffers from unplayable keyboard lag in full screen, but the problem goes away in Windowed mode. No such issues on a similar machine with Windows 10 though, so I'm looking into it.

I have lost frame rates with Win 11 .....not much, but I run the same tests, both CPU and GPU. and have not had the issue you are having but there is a difference.......

 

[lexluthermiester]

I have lost frame rates with Win 11 .....not much, but I run the same tests, both CPU and GPU. and have not had the issue you are having but there is a difference.......

Margin of error type thing or is it a difference greater than 3%?

 

[FireFox]

It's the other way around, it is enabled by clean installs and disabled by upgrade 10 to 11 only.

Not true.
Already did 3 clean installs and wasn't on.

 

[Kurt63]

Margin of error type thing or is it a difference greater than 3%?

Well, for example, in timespy I lost about 250 points .....I waited and ran it , I would say, 5-6 times making sure I started it at the same #'s every time ..... Heaven, Valley and Kombuster saw drops too, that seemed outside margin.........

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
Ran into this on elevenforums
Not sure how many of you guys and gals miss using the details pane on the bottom and preview pane on the side like in win-7 but this has always pissed me off ms is still so stupid to change this wonderful setup

Obviously I'm not referring to the ribbon on top but dang ms always make you miss something when they change it again and making the ribbon look... better than the new menubars.. lol

Download OldNewExplorer - MajorGeeks

OldNewExplorer is a shell extension and tweaker which can undo "improvements" to file browsing that was added in Windows 10, 8.1 and 8.

m.majorgeeks.com

 

[theFOoL]

Can I get a check is my List correct? I'm on WiN11Beta which is the actual release number 22000.194

 

[Kurt63]

Margin of error type thing or is it a difference greater than 3%?

For what it is worth, I seem to not have trouble with this V

Compatibility issues with Intel “Killer” and "SmartByte" networking software​

Margin of error type thing or is it a difference greater than 3%?

Forgive me for not posting pics of time spy runs .....They are posted as barak1948 on line ...... I did this, https://appuals.com/fix-low-fps-while-gaming-windows-11/

....... 5 runs, cool down in between (laptop) and got over 240 FPS back in Timespy on average ...... other bench marks came back up also ....... now keep in mind I do not always know what I am doing but this "seemed" to work....

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
Well the upgrade to 11 did activate getting and sending updates to others on the internet lol
Luckily I was on metered but other setting was changed.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Forgive me for not posting pics of time spy runs

No worries, I believe you. While not common, you're not alone having that experience. Try to look through your settings and kill anything that runs in the background. Also look through your Services and stop/disable any that are not needed.

Well, for example, in timespy I lost about 250 points .....I waited and ran it , I would say, 5-6 times making sure I started it at the same #'s every time ..... Heaven, Valley and Kombuster saw drops too, that seemed outside margin.........

That makes me wonder what is running in the background that wasn't running in Win10.

 

[windwhirl]

Brave and Firefox to intercept links that force-open in Microsoft Edge – OSnews

www.osnews.com

Goddammit Microsoft.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Brave and Firefox to intercept links that force-open in Microsoft Edge – OSnews

www.osnews.com

Goddammit Microsoft.

This doesn't work if you uninstall Edge.

 

[windwhirl]

This doesn't work if you uninstall Edge.

Agreed, at least until proven otherwise. Regardless, it's an annoyance. An unnecessary one, at that.