Windows 11 General Discussion

[lexluthermiester]

Here's something fun and VERY ironic!

Install Windows 11 on 'incompatible' systems using Microsoft's official registry hack to bypass the TPM 2.0/CPU check

Although Microsoft would prefer it if people waited to be invited to install Windows 11 on compatible hardware, you can jump the queue now and install it in a number of ways, including by downloading the ISO file, or using the Windows 11 Installation Assistant.

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A bypass method issued by microsoft themselves? With the warning of course... But maybe this is a good sign?

Actually they can, they're features not depending on TPM (that's for stuff like credential guard),but rather processor capabilities.

Perhaps I need to do some more reading?

But now I hear Windows doesn't have VBS enabled by default on clean installs (plus OEMs are not enabling it completely either), so I'm not sure in which scenarios Windows 11 has fully enabled VBS/HVCI by default.

I haven't seen it enabled yet, so I think this is correct.

 

[Naito]

Windows 11 will get there - just was taken out of the oven a bit too early. It's definitely not a regression like Windows 8 was...

 

[theFOoL]

Yeah just now M$ and is All about releasing too soon and have many complaints later - Ha

 

[freeagent]

I tried windows 8 for like 5 minutes.. I don't even think it was that long if I'm honest. Earlier I said I was going to install 10 again.. but I seem to be on 11 still.. Games still run at 1080p/60 just fine

 

[theFOoL]

I tried windows 8 for like 5 minutes.. I don't even think it was that long if I'm honest. Earlier I said I was going to install 10 again.. but I seem to be on 11 still.. Games still run at 1080p/60 just fine

M$ tried the whole phone display crap when touchscreen monitors then and now isn't a thing and too much $$$

 

[tabascosauz]

I tried windows 8 for like 5 minutes.. I don't even think it was that long if I'm honest. Earlier I said I was going to install 10 again.. but I seem to be on 11 still.. Games still run at 1080p/60 just fine

The issues are staring me in the face but I'm honestly pretty stumped as to how they manage not to substantively affect the game experience in any way. Most games are running fine but one game is choosing to split the load between two cores on different CCDs and hanging around 2.8GHz instead of staying on Core 0 and 1 and peaking at 4.9GHz+ as it should......yet game is running like a top......despite being mostly CPU-bound......truly confused

 

[freeagent]

M$ tried the whole phone display crap when touchscreen monitors then and now isn't a thing and too much $$$

10 feels like it should be on a phone, sure would be nice to go back to 7 though and forget all of this

I hope thats not just me getting old..

The issues are staring me in the face but I'm honestly pretty stumped as to how they manage not to substantively affect the game experience in any way. Most games are running fine but one game is choosing to split the load between two cores on different CCDs and hanging around 2.8GHz instead of staying on Core 0 and 1 and peaking at 4.9GHz+ as it should......yet game is running like a top......despite being mostly CPU-bound......truly confused

Sounds kinda freaky.. I like it, but not in a freaky kinda way

Sounds like it might be a bug in the program if the game is running fine.. I noticed it does that from time to time.. I don't let it sleep on its own anymore, I usually get bugged info if goes to sleep on its own. If I tell it to sleep its good.. a little weird and not always repeatable

 

[stinger608]

sure would be nice to go back to 7 though and forget all of this

Oh man, I'm with ya brother!!!!!!!!!

me getting old..

Yep, you are.............Bhhahahahaha

Of course, me too.

 

[windwhirl]

A bypass method issued by microsoft themselves? With the warning of course... But maybe this is a good sign?

In the end, they haven't given up, but almost

Perhaps I need to do some more reading?

To be fair, Microsoft wasn't really clear on the why of everything outside of the lower malware claims. And they bundled all the sec-related requirements together (TPM 2.0, newer generation processor, etc.), so it's not like it was in plain sight.

I had to look up memory integrity, and nowhere do they mention TPM being required. Plus I remember I could enable it in my older Haswell era PC that never had TPM enabled (and I think the BIOS doesn't have a setting for firmware TPM either).

Yeah just now M$ and is All about releasing too soon and have many complaints later - Ha

Smooth sailing got old, Microsoft likes bumpy rides now /jk

 

[lexluthermiester]

I tried windows 8 for like 5 minutes.. I don't even think it was that long if I'm honest. Earlier I said I was going to install 10 again.. but I seem to be on 11 still.. Games still run at 1080p/60 just fine

After they took away the start menu in the Windows 8 beta program, I was done. Only toyed with it after that. 8.1 was just a slap in the face and I found it to be little more than insulting.

10 was an improvement over 8/8.1, but only just. It still didn't compare to Win7. Win11 however, IMHO is a return to good form. It's not perfect, but the changes make using this modern version of Windows enjoyable and easier..

To be fair, Microsoft wasn't really clear on the why of everything outside of the lower malware claims. And they bundled all the sec-related requirements together (TPM 2.0, newer generation processor, etc.), so it's not like it was in plain sight.

I had to look up memory integrity, and nowhere do they mention TPM being required. Plus I remember I could enable it in my older Haswell era PC that never had TPM enabled (and I think the BIOS doesn't have a setting for firmware TPM either).

I think they know we're not buying the BS. They also likely know that they are causing more problems than they anticipated.

 

[Mussels]

Impossible, i don't use a MS account.


How can that happens?

MS reads what hardware you have, hashes it, and if a matching hash appears reactivates it

I'm pretty sure that this crap can be passed by soon. I'm currently on my parents and have my laptop with me.

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My laptop is from that era, and the regfix let it update to the latest 11 with no problems

 

[freeagent]

I agree with you 100%

MS reads what hardware you have, hashes it, and if a matching hash appears reactivates it

The only time they ever asked a question (gave me a hard time) was when I went from Z77 OC Formula to Strix B550-F. I ended up restoring a saved copy of something from their cloud in order for me to use my new board without having to buy a new key. After that my board is logged with the other three Intel boards that I have , don't even need to log in.. unless I want my faves list

 

[theFOoL]

Sailing got old, Microsoft likes bumpy rides now /jk

Just like most roads in the US needs re-pavement

 

[stinger608]

How to bypass the various Windows 11 installer requirements (TPM, CPU, etc)

• Put the text at the bottom into a file bypass.reg
• Copy the file onto your Windows 11 USB stick
• Boot from the USB stick
• At some point you'll see the "unsupported hardware" screen
• Click "back"
• Shift+F10
• notepad
• File -> Open
• Enter *.* (so you can see the .reg file, and not only .txt files)
• Right click bypass.reg
• Merge
• Close notepad and the command prompt
• Click Next
• Boom - Windows 11 without TPM

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Setup\LabConfig]
"BypassTPMCheck"=dword:00000001
"BypassSecureBootCheck"=dword:00000001
"BypassRAMCheck"=dword:00000001
"BypassStorageCheck"=dword:00000001
"BypassCPUCheck"=dword:00000001

The original post should be edited to include this so people don't have to search for it or just happen to find it.

 

[R-T-B]

Moving to a dev build to dodge the AMD scheduler bugs temporarily. Hoping it's not too rough over there!

 

[lexluthermiester]

For the life of me I can't see how Windows 10 can be compared to Windows 8/8.1 and it certainly doesn't belong in the garbage.
I'm not trying to start an argument here, but as I see it, Windows 10 rescued us from the holy mess that was Windows 8. Remember trying to find your way around Win 8 when it first booted up, not to mention trying to actually shut it down?
I do and I also remember how pleased I was when Win 10 turned up and frankly, Windows 11 is simply a reskinned Windows 10, in my opinion.

I see your point. However, I still think the UI of Win10 was just the poo of 8/8.1 polished to a shine. But at the end of the day, poo is still poo. I'm just not getting the same vibe from 11 that 8/8.1/10 put off.

 

[windwhirl]

Moving to a dev build to dodge the AMD scheduler bugs temporarily. Hoping it's not too rough over there!

You're gonna have to do clean install later, though. To return to RTM releases, I mean.

 

[Mussels]

Moving to a dev build to dodge the AMD scheduler bugs temporarily. Hoping it's not too rough over there!

Dev cant downgrade, i fell into that trap

The only way you can is to wait many months and hope they re-enable the button to move to a final release, but it could be a long time coming

 

[windwhirl]

Moving to a dev build to dodge the AMD scheduler bugs temporarily. Hoping it's not too rough over there!

The only way you can is to wait many months and hope they re-enable the button to move to a final release, but it could be a long time coming

Sort of. First, you need to hitch a ride back to beta channel the moment a Dev build is being sent simultaneously to both Dev and Beta:

Once you're on a beta build you need to enable this option:

 

[Kurt63]

Installed Windows 11 ...... I am not hating it ......outside of the garbage I do not use, the "media" junk, store, reporting to Microsoft and those stupid (to me) widgets ....... I am really happy with it ...... ran all my games, no problems ....... only problem I had was Windows Defender scanning its own folder, using CPU 99% for extended periods of time but you folks helped me with that ........ solved that problem ......... I think that like an Iphone, it was designed for dummies like me, no directions really required ....... I love android but it's above my pay grade because you have to pay attention to it ..... Apple, no directions in the box.... LOL........ you folks get that ...... time will tell, though ...... I am just going to listen to you folks and see what you think ....... best course of action if one wants to be successful ........ thank you for what you do, you folks are the best

 

[R-T-B]

You're gonna have to do clean install later, though. To return to RTM releases, I mean.

Don't care, want my performance. Can do whatever later.

 

[Mussels]

Installed Windows 11 ...... I am not hating it ......outside of the garbage I do not use, the "media" junk, store, reporting to Microsoft and those stupid (to me) widgets ....... I am really happy with it ...... ran all my games, no problems ....... only problem I had was Windows Defender scanning its own folder, using CPU 99% for extended periods of time but you folks helped me with that ........ solved that problem ......... I think that like an Iphone, it was designed for dummies like me, no directions really required ....... I love android but it's above my pay grade because you have to pay attention to it ..... Apple, no directions in the box.... LOL........ you folks get that ...... time will tell, though ...... I am just going to listen to you folks and see what you think ....... best course of action if one wants to be successful ........ thank you for what you do, you folks are the best

If you didn't do a clean install, it's worth knowing that indexer, defender and so on all check your desktop folder

I know a lot of people who immediately dump gigabytes of crap onto their desktop, not realizing it slows things down (use a shortcut to a folder, not in the users folder)

 

[Ruru]

My laptop is from that era, and the regfix let it update to the latest 11 with no problems

I need to try it later on.

 

[Splinterdog]

Forza Horizon 3 in Win 11 suffers from unplayable keyboard lag in full screen, but the problem goes away in Windowed mode. No such issues on a similar machine with Windows 10 though, so I'm looking into it.

 

[R-T-B]

Forza Horizon 3 in Win 11 suffers from unplayable keyboard lag in full screen, but the problem goes away in Windowed mode. No such issues on a similar machine with Windows 10 though, so I'm looking into it.

Ryzen has all sorts of cache issues with 11 atm, may be related?