Would you buy a 4 GB graphics card in 2022?

[KLiKzg]

That happened a while back, you cant mine eth on less than 5GB now (and that 1060 5GB was a rare chinese exclusive, so that tends to mean 6GB or 8GB cards)

Which means: GPUs with lower memory about 4GB are not list to be used for mining.

So people can relax, as gamers can use lower memory modules for them.

 

[sith'ari]

Would you buy a 4 GB graphics card in 2022?​

Lol , that's sooo hilarious :

If AMD was participating in such a poll , until few days ago ,they would surely have voted "NO" ,
but after their new release(RX6500XT) they they would change their vote to a firm and solid .... "YES" .
Really , i can't stop laughing when i saw it , AMD deleted their own stetements about the VRAM needs !!! :

AMD removes its blog post claiming '4GB VRAM is not enough for games', right before introducing RX6500XT graphics - VideoCardz.com

AMD quietly hides its “4GB is not enough for today’s games” blog post KitGuru noticed that AMD is suddenly not considering 4GB as a problem for games. As the company surprisingly removed its 2020 blog entry covering this problem. Next-gen games will require more VRAM for textures, especially...

videocardz.com

AMD is leading the industry at providing gamers with high VRAM graphics solutions across the entire product offering. Competitive products at a similar entry level price-point are offering up to a maximum of 4GB of VRAM, which is evidently not enough for todays games. Go Beyond 4GB of Video Memory to Crank Up your settings. Play on RadeonTM RX Series GPUs with 6GB or 8GB of VRAM and enjoy gaming at Max settings.

— AMD in June 2020

 

[MrAOK]

I think the question is phrased a little wrongly. My gaming is limited mainly to solitaire and while I stream some TV shows, I don't need heavy graphics. And while I probably shouldn't say this here since it will only get me holy heck from some of you, I'm currently operating with a used RX560 card with only 2gb of memory. (I really wanted an apu or a little more graphics memory, but AMD's Ryzen 3 APU's available to those in the USA are approaching the antique status and the graphics cards with more memory were ridiculous in price.

I had a four or five year old system and really had to do something to upgrade.

Anyway when I put together my new ITX computer in May, I bought a B550 board but used a cheap Ryzen 3 3100 and the used RX560 with an expectation I'd replace the cpu when the Ryzen 3 5000 APU's came out in a few months. Obviously the CPUs never came out. But it's also not like I'm missing a lot with a 2GB video board. Once and a while when I have too many tabs open with a lot of graphics, there may be a screen glitch, but it's not significant.

Yes I'd like more than a 2 gb video card, but 4 gb would be more than enough for anything I do.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Yes I'd like more than a 2 gb video card, but 4 gb would be more than enough for anything I do.

Then you should vote "Yes" in the poll. However, to say the question is "phrased a little wrongly" is disingenuous at best..

 

[seth1911]

In my country the cheapest 6500 start from 319€ for a 4GB 64bit x4 Card.
The GTX 1650 start from 260€.

 

[LabRat 891]

Bought a RX 6500XT 4GB to replace my RX 580 8GB. Need use of my x16 CPU slot for other things. I'll throw this in my X570 chipset X4 4.0. I don't play new titles, generally.
Should be here later in the week from Newegg.

 

[Tetras]

Bought a RX 6500XT 4GB to replace my RX 580 8GB. Need use of my x16 CPU slot for other things. I'll throw this in my X570 chipset X4 4.0. I don't play new titles, generally.
Should be here later in the week from Newegg.

You're aware the PCI-E connector is still 16, right?

 

[Mussels]

You're aware the PCI-E connector is still 16, right?

On what device?

The 6500XT is a 4x card

 

[GoldenX]

You're aware the PCI-E connector is still 16, right?

He means the 16x slot limited to 4x on the motherboard, would be kind of ideal for a 6500 if it could even process video.

 

[Tetras]

On what device?

The 6500XT is a 4x card

Was just checking he wasn't trying to plug a full size PCI-E device into a slot that's too short, but it's probably what GoldenX just said, so no problem.

 

[LabRat 891]

Was just checking he wasn't trying to plug a full size PCI-E device into a slot that's too short, but it's probably what GoldenX just said, so no problem.

I have a very odd use case for it, and if it doesn't work as I expect, the x4 Gen4 *(x16 phys.)* slot is what the card was made for. Wasn't clear previously, that the slot was x16 physically. Though, I have cut a PCIE slot out to accept longer cards before. I prefer risers usually, now.
I expect this to be a side grade. The only 'unreasonable expectation' I hold for it is to be able to play(launch) Quake II RTX. Otherwise, similar-ish performance (at MUCH less wattage) to my current RX 580 will be more than acceptable.

There's more than a few very inflated scalper 6500XTs under sold and completed on ebay. I thought I was nutty for paying a ~$60 premium over MSRP for an ITX-sized ver. from NewEgg.

 

[Hyderz]

personally i wouldnt settle for anything lower end, even though it provides a decent 1080p gaming..
look at your setup and screen resolution and aim for the gpu you want to buy. even though the gpu is expensive now, but buying a powerful gpu will last longer..

 

[sam_86314]

It all depends on what I can get my hands on.

Of the four GPUs I've managed to get during this shortage, three of them had 4GB or less (GTX 750 Ti, R9 280, RX 460), and one had 8GB (RX 5700 XT).

Right the three cards with 4GB or less are spares, and I'll occasionally swap between them in my testing system when I'm bored. The 4GB RX 460 is my emergency backup GPU.

 

[XiGMAKiD]

Buying 4GB card in 2022 feels wrong but since my gaming needs is more casual nowadays 4GB is okay I guess

 

[Cutechri]

I'm already depressed over my 8 GB 3070 because I couldn't find a 16 GB RX 6800, so you already know my answer.

 

[seth1911]

Atm i wouldnt buy any new gpu for those prices, i had a few problems with regular prices since the Titan shit.
I life still in 2010 where a really Highend GPU (Not Titan, TI etc. Bullshit) was about 499€.


Good that i only play games with DX11 support on my PC. There a 2 MMORPGS like GW2 and FXIV and my favorite Multiplayer Games on PC are still: BF4,1

My highest price ive ever paid was 2 weeks after release for a HD 6990 like 640€ but this was with a GTX 590 pure Highend.


There was alternate methods for Multi GPU,
but why should AMD and Nvidia still devlope it if u can sell 1 card for 1.000€ with the same perofrmance of 2 cards for about each one 300€.

The same shit is with Motherboards, in 2011 u could get a board with 2 Fullsize x16 slots, and electrical x8 each one for about 60€,
now days a socket 1700 is about 126€. B550 is too overpriced, only B450 is with about 50€.

 

[hitek84]

Not for my main system, but for other applications I'd consider it.

 

[BURGERB0B]

I’d look for 4gb minimum in a used card but as far as a new card I’d just get an apu. To be fair though my 2gb gtx 960 was sgetting 60fps at 1080p at low to medium settings and someone bought it from me for $170. So a brand new 4gb card at $200 isn’t a bad deal by comparison. I don’t know if that makes AMD look better or just makes me look like an a*** but hopefully it makes the used market more reasonable moving forward

 

[damric]

For modern high end gaming no. But I've already bought a couple cards 4GB or less this year for other things, like folding, basic display output, or the hundreds of thousands of older games that don't need that much VRAM. But those were 2nd hand used cards, not some new shit card for $200 that should be $100.

 

[AnjuRatty]

I think a lot of people are forgetting that AMD cards usually tend to use more VRAM as well , for example
Forza Horizon 5 1080p Extreme Preset uses around 6.5GB on most Nvidia Cards but uses close to 8GB on AMD cards.

 

[lexluthermiester]

I think a lot of people are forgetting that AMD cards usually tend to use more VRAM as well , for example
Forza Horizon 5 1080p Extreme Preset uses around 6.5GB on most Nvidia Cards but uses close to 8GB on AMD cards.

You're exaggerating a bit, but you're not far off. For some reason the latest Radeon cards use about 4% to 6% more VRAM, depending on the game and settings. What's curious is that this behavior has been witnessed, but not explained..

 

[AnjuRatty]

most of the time It's more than 4% to 6%

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here at 1080p , 6.4GB on the 2080 Ti and 8GB on the 6800XT.

another example

Dying Light 2 Benchmark Test & Performance Analysis Review

Dying Light 2 supports DirectX 11 and DirectX 12, in addition to ray tracing. In this performance review, we tested how well the various renderers work, and what they need in terms of VRAM. We also have comparisons for ray tracing and the different graphics settings available.

www.techpowerup.com

 

[Minetje]

I voted yes. But this is because of a philosophical belief that bad hardware does not exist, just bad prices.

If a 4 GB, affordable GPU is a thing, then I do not see the problem as long as it meets one's needs. That said, 199 USD price point for the RX 6500 XT is very high as it stands. This should be a $99 GPU in any era other than the cryptocurrency and NFT scam one.

this is because of a philosophical belief that bad hardware does not exist, just bad prices.

Bold statement, don't let Steve Burke from Gamers Nexus hear you talk like that ;-)

And are you sure of that $99 gpu? Nvidia made 4GB models as recent as the GTX1650 and the base models had a $150 msrp. Add a little "fancy design tax" like with an Asus Strix and suddenly you have a $230 4GB 'budget' card. So a $199 RX6500XT is neither upsetting nor surprizing to me.
Not that I would buy one, I doubt it will outperform my 1070OC Strix

 

[Mussels]

You're exaggerating a bit, but you're not far off. For some reason the latest Radeon cards use about 4% to 6% more VRAM, depending on the game and settings. What's curious is that this behavior has been witnessed, but not explained..

Yes it has, Nvidia has slightly better compression technology in their GPU's

 

[lexluthermiester]

Yes it has, Nvidia has slightly better compression technology in their GPU's

Is that what's going on? I thought NVidia did away with compression? Weird. Ok, that explains it.