AMD Said to be Releasing no Less Than Four New Ryzen 5000-Series Chips in March

[TechLurker]

Still hoping for a 5900X3D and 5950X3D later in the year. Would be a perfect final upgrade to my main AM4 rig while I sit out the next 5 years of development and wait for DDR5 and PCIe 5.0 devices to mature to more reasonable costs.

 

[Valantar]

I love how everyone is arguing about these chips when the only "evidence" of their existence is one random Twitterati post.

Wait, don't you know that literally everything posted on twitter is absolute and undeniable truth?

I think we're all just kind of starved for an AMD response to ADL at this point - and this does tick a lot of boxes for what a good response would look like. But there's a reason I started my first comment above with "if this is true".

Still hoping for a 5900X3D and 5950X3D later in the year. Would be a perfect final upgrade to my main AM4 rig while I sit out the next 5 years of development and wait for DDR5 and PCIe 5.0 devices to mature to more reasonable costs.

Given the cost and complexity of stacking the cache die, I doubt they'll do that for any cut-down die at all - it just doesn't make economic sense. I sincerely doubt they have tons of spare capacity in this process, so the natural priority is for fully enabled chips. A 5950X3D might as such happen, but ... I kind of doubt it. Zen4 seems too close, and I would assume most people shopping in that price bracket would rather buy a "brand new" Intel than a "refreshed" AMD. It'll be cool to see what they do with this tech in the future though!

 

[Tek-Check]

Intel is allowed to milk and abuse its near-monopoly.

AMD simply isn't allowed to, we want AMD to lose so that Intel regains its monopoly.


/s

Who is "we"?

Still hoping for a 5900X3D and 5950X3D later in the year. Would be a perfect final upgrade to my main AM4 rig while I sit out the next 5 years of development and wait for DDR5 and PCIe 5.0 devices to mature to more reasonable costs.

No. It's not coming out. Forget about it.

I'll pass everything until Nova Lake arrives. I want a monumental performance boost.

Start saving now, as products are going to get even more expensive due to higher development costs on 3 nm and further.

 

[sdedalus83]

Still hoping for a 5900X3D and 5950X3D later in the year. Would be a perfect final upgrade to my main AM4 rig while I sit out the next 5 years of development and wait for DDR5 and PCIe 5.0 devices to mature to more reasonable costs.

Unfortunately I doubt it will happen. The 5800X3D is mostly a tech demo and almost all of the dies will go to much higher margin EPIC chips. Stacked cache should allow AMD to produce high end desktop APUs without cannibalizing workstation and enterprise products.

 

[Cutechri]

Start saving now, as products are going to get even more expensive due to higher development costs on 3 nm and further.

Never said money was an issue

 

[UnSubDK]

When i saw the headline, i thought all CPU's were 3D cache ... but seems only one is.

 

[mechtech]

Hmmm where is the 5700G3D with RDN2 on board???

 

[TheLostSwede]

When i saw the headline, i thought all CPU's were 3D cache ... but seems only one is.

Did I mention 3D cache in the headline?

 

[Totally]

How is that a problem though? We get cheaper and better product in the end anyways, right?

You blind? Where do you see cheaper? That is a price hike. This is why a gpu that would have normally came in a $160-$250 now are priced today at $450-$700 dollars. If they are to continue with the trend, I won't be surprised to see a whatever-800 going for $1500 or pushing $2k. This clearly marks the change in the cpu pricing model from getting more performance for the same money, to less or similar performance for the same money. If you want more performance you are going to have to pay more.

 

[Bomby569]

One major flaw with your reasoning here: ADL launched very recently (less than two months ago), and is selling below MSRP outside of sales. These chips are supposedly launching this month, yet you seem to be assuming that they will adhere strictly to MSRP. That doesn't seem logical to me. If prices are dropping below MSRP and these models are meant to compete, isn't it reasonable that they also drop below MSRP quite quickly?

I was just commenting on the "cheaper" statement. That's it

 

[Taraquin]

Smart move, getting competitive vs 12100 and 12400, 12600KF is still faster, but since B550 is way cheaoer than Z690 they atleast are similar on bang for bucks.

 

[UnSubDK]

Did I mention 3D cache in the headline?

no .. no you did not

 

[MxPhenom 216]

Oh..... these new 5500 or 5600 might be perfect for my sisters light gaming rig and workstation. Now if the 6600xt prices could drop in the next millennia

 

[GoldenX]

It's good to see AMD competing on the mid-low range again, even though their very low end part, at 6 cores/6 threads, makes me skeptical as to how well it will perform compared to the 12100. I'd rather have a 4C/8T CPU than a 6C/6T one.

Most of the time 6C/6T is better. We shall see the numbers, I guess.

 

[qubit]

And no garbage "efficiency" cores. I just won't build a PC around those, so I might well go Ryzen for my next build, even if the gaming performance is lower. We'll see.

 

[Lew Zealand]

Most of the time 6C/6T is better. We shall see the numbers, I guess.

At least as far as Skylake cores were concerned, 6c6t slightly beats 4c8t in gaming:

Core i5-9400 6c6t @3.9 GHz ACT
Core i3-10100 4c8t @4.1 GHz ACT

 

[doc7000]

I thought that they should have done this for the Ryzen 5000 series though I still hope that they will do this for Ryzen 7000 CPUs, that is make the Ryzen 3 6 cores, Ryzen 5 8 cores, Ryzen 7 12 cores and Ryzen 9 16 core CPUs. I feel that this will put pressure on Intel price wise and would potentially squeeze out their core i3 cpus.

 

[mechtech]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1499796079587508236

I'd take my left nut over any piece of silicon any day.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Unfortunately, no indication of pricing for the Ryzen 7 5800X3D was given

Where's the 5900X3D? Come on AMD, get with it!

 

[Why_Me]

I guess you didn't see the tweet above where Microcenter in the US has the 5600X for $189 and the 5800X for $249?

Less than 12 US States have a Microcenter store and those deals are walk in only.

 

[Minus Infinity]

But will they learn their lesson and release lower SKUs with Zen 4 from the get go? They will need a 7300, 7500, 7600, 7600X, 7700 to take on lower end Raptor Lake. I hope they don't think these new Zen 3 CPUs will have to take the fight up against i3 13100 etc.

Where's the 5900X3D? Come on AMD, get with it!

You heard AMD themselves, this is purely to win gaming benchmarks. It's a pissing contest to cater to those that think their life sucks because their game only does 150fps instead of 165fps and how much better that must be. So no it won't come to 5900. We don't though what they will do with Zen 4. But Raptor Lake is greatly increasing L3 and L2 cache, so AMD might integrate v-cache into more models with Zen 4.

 

[AVATARAT]

Why now?
What's the point.

After a few months there will be AM5...

 

[springs113]

Less than 12 US States have a Microcenter store and those deals are walk in only.

Does it really matter? Microcenter has been more reliable and accessible especially since the pandemic started. Also not every microcenter is deep within each state that they're located in... some are minutes from a neighboring state.

 

[ymbaja]

It's good to see AMD competing on the mid-low range again, even though their very low end part, at 6 cores/6 threads, makes me skeptical as to how well it will perform compared to the 12100. I'd rather have a 4C/8T CPU than a 6C/6T one.

Cores outperform threads by a long ways in most scenarios. If I’m remembering correctly hyper-threading adds something like 20% performance per core. So a 4/8 would be roughly the performance of 5 cores. Obviously it’s going to vary across work load, but I’d say take the 6 “true” cores if given the option.

 

[Why_Me]

Does it really matter? Microcenter has been more reliable and accessible especially since the pandemic started. Also not every microcenter is deep within each state that they're located in... some are minutes from a neighboring state.

Last time I checked, there were 50 US States. btw no idea how much fuel cost in your neck of the woods but I can only guess how much it cost to drive across state lines in order to shop a Microcenter ... that is if you live in or near one of those 9 US States that have a Microcenter store.