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AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D Priced at $450, Mid-April Launch Pricing of Other New Chips Surface

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My point regarding 10105F was that someone who buys a 79€ CPU today probably (the majority) will not have a GPU that can do QHD but 1080p today and that after 2-3 years depending on the GPU they may be forced to game at 720p, so at that time, the 720p CPU performance will not be anymore academic...
Also regarding AMD's cost, the same was true in Ryzen 1000/2000/3000 era which AMD had much more competitive pricing, then (1000/2000) it had GF and TSMC (3000) now it has only TSMC and the cost difference if you check speculated woofers cost is nearly irrelevant for the kind of margins that we are talking.
Yes, that is when they were using GF, and before this whole supposed “supply chain disruption“ happened. So I think we will need to adjust expectations here because pricing in those days are unlikely to come back, especially in light that TSMC have increased cost a few times, and the fact that these big chip companies are making record profits quarter on quarter.

And unfortunately, even though I don’t like the situation over the last couple of years and even now, the truth is that there is no budget gaming nowadays. Cost of PC build have been trending upwards. If you really want to stay as a budget gamer, then the solution is to stick to a console. This is not ideal, but it is what it is now. So if someone decided to stick with a lower end CPU, they need to be prepared that it may not age well. Quad core are barely coping with the demands of modern OS and software requirements. We can certainly still use them, and I am also using a quad core system, but we need to manage our expectations. That’s my opinion.
 
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My point regarding 10105F was that someone who buys a 79€ CPU today probably (the majority) will not have a GPU that can do QHD but 1080p today and that after 2-3 years depending on the GPU they may be forced to game at 720p, so at that time, the 720p CPU performance will not be anymore academic...
Also regarding AMD's cost, the same was true in Ryzen 1000/2000/3000 era which AMD had much more competitive pricing, then (1000/2000) it had GF and TSMC (3000) now it has only TSMC and the cost difference if you check speculated woofers cost is nearly irrelevant for the kind of margins that we are talking.
I take the 720p data as a synthetic test. I would never play at that resolution. If i can't play at 1080p low i just don't play the game
 

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Better late than never

At least AMD will have some new budget parts to keep AM4 going until DDR5 becomes more readily available, with one new high performance gaming part with the X3D (render/cinebench 'holics can keep the 5950x)
 
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Please no! Leave that exclusively for bargain basement G series only.
why not? the Prism's a perfectly capable cooler for 90w parts, which is also why the 3700x's been so immensely popular. And should you not want it, offload it for $20 to some guy who wants to upgrade their Stealth ...
 

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why not? the Prism's a perfectly capable cooler for 90w parts, which is also why the 3700x's been so immensely popular. And should you not want it, offload it for $20 to some guy who wants to upgrade their Stealth ...
As someone with the prisms... no. It's only good for the 65W parts unless you like screaming fans or 75C+
 
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im happy with the i3 my next upgrde will be a gpu, dont see a sense in a higher cpu if im allways in the gpu limit.


its a usless discussion if a i3 have 74 fps or a Ryzen 5600 have 116 in 720p,
if my games are in the gpu limit on 1200p medium.


i prefer to play on 60fps vsync max out than 120+fps on low.
 
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Those prices are so stupid considering Zen 3 cpu's prices have already dropped significantly. 5600x can be had for 229€ while the 5800x is 329€. There's gonna be literally less than 30€ differences between the 5600 versions and the 5700x/5800x. These releases are beyond stupid at this point. They were so happy charging 2 years 300€ for a 6core and now as soon as intel came out with something decent they finally release the budget options? One Big F to you AMD
 
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I hope they don't postpone the release; i just bought the 5800X thinking that it's going to be a lot longer 'till they release the X3D.
Guess i was wrong.
Aaanyway i'm getting the 5800X3D no matter what.
It was clearly stated 5800X3D will come in spring 2022 and April 20 (420, nice) is right on time.
If you bought 5800X now, then can only assume you have not been watching the news.

Personally 450 is better than i hoped. Since AMD in their slides was comparing it to 12900K i feared they were gonna charge 499 or even 549 for it. So if it ends up at 449 that's not the worst price.
It will be a nice upgrade from 3800X i have. Still way cheaper than building a new DDR5 plaform along with inevitable first gen issues (new socket and DDR standard plus architecture).
 
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It was clearly stated 5800X3D will come in spring 2022 and April 20 (420, nice) is right on time.
If you bought 5800X now, then can only assume you have not been watching the news.

Personally 450 is better than i hoped. Since AMD in their slides was comparing it to 12900K i feared they were gonna charge 499 or even 549 for it. So if it ends up at 449 that's not the worst price.
It will be a nice upgrade from 3800X i have. Still way cheaper than building a new DDR5 plaform along with inevitable first gen issues (new socket and DDR standard plus architecture).
$449 in US is 449€ in Eu and since it's probably gonna be a limited release that price is gonna probably rise
 

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well you also have 110 degree summers ... not every1 has that :D
also 75c is fine tbh
Safe? yes?
Fine? no. You lose performance as the CPU's throttle as well as get the joys of the fan going bonkers.

(And yes, PBO reducing the boost is throttling - any performance loss at all, is a throttle)
 
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It was clearly stated 5800X3D will come in spring 2022 and April 20 (420, nice) is right on time.
If you bought 5800X now, then can only assume you have not been watching the news.

Personally 450 is better than i hoped. Since AMD in their slides was comparing it to 12900K i feared they were gonna charge 499 or even 549 for it. So if it ends up at 449 that's not the worst price.
It will be a nice upgrade from 3800X i have. Still way cheaper than building a new DDR5 plaform along with inevitable first gen issues (new socket and DDR standard plus architectu
Oh yes, clearly that's the only reason i have for buying the 5800X a month away from X3D's launch.
 
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