BIOS for HIS Radeon 9200 128MB 128-bit

[kamil445]

Hi,

I'm looking for BIOS for HIS Radeon 9200 128MB 128-bit because in GPU-Z is recorgonized as 64MB 64-bit, maybe BIOS is corrupt or something so i want to try reflash the bios.
Found BIOS for 128MB/64-bit 64MB/64-bit but not for 128MB/128-bit...

I also cant't extract bios using GPU-Z.

 

[pavle]

Hi!
It is more likely that GPU-Z is reading the card wrongly, I mean it's an old card and I've seen such cases before. Try using HWInfo32 and AIDA64 and see what they say about the card.

 

[kamil445]

All programs see 64MB/64-bit. AGP is 8x, fast write is off, tried enable but automatically is set to off in windows. Fast read is enabled.

I searched in google for 9200 and i seen my card doesn't have one capacitor near AGP:


This can be the problem ?

I found similar cards to my and all have this capacitor:

and this card, there are additional two capacitors

Should i first try to reflash bios or add missing one or two capacitors ?

 

[Ruru]

Does other programs recognize it properly?

 

[Imperator]

What you circled in the picture is the capacitor that you have it also.
In that picture on the lower line there are 3 slots for capacitors but only 1 is soldered, the one nearest to AGP.
As i see in your picture you have the exact same capacitor soldered there.
I am guessing it is not about that capacitor.

 

[eidairaman1]

Hi,

I'm looking for BIOS for HIS Radeon 9200 128MB 128-bit because in GPU-Z is recorgonized as 64MB 64-bit, maybe BIOS is corrupt or something so i want to try reflash the bios.
Found BIOS for 128MB/64-bit 64MB/64-bit but not for 128MB/128-bit...

I also cant't extract bios using GPU-Z.

Let's ensure the ram chips are infact 128MB total

From this datasheet they should be 16MB chips at 200MHz or 400Mbps

HY5DV281622DT-5 PDF

Part #: HY5DV281622DT-5. Description: 128M(8Mx16) GDDR SDRAM. File Size: 291.6 Kbytes. Manufacturer: Hynix Semiconductor.

pdf1.alldatasheet.com

Also just get us a GPU-z Screenshot and then go to advanced tab and select Ram/Memory on context menu.

 

[kamil445]

What you circled in the picture is the capacitor that you have it also.
In that picture on the lower line there are 3 slots for capacitors but only 1 is soldered, the one nearest to AGP.
As i see in your picture you have the exact same capacitor soldered there.
I am guessing it is not about that capacitor.

Thank you for expalantion,

Default windows driver detecting GPU as

Omega Drivers detecting GPU as

GPU-Z:

Can't find "memory" tab in GPU-Z

Information from Driver software


So should I first try to flash different bios ?

 

[Imperator]

Have you tried to upload the current BIOS in Techpowerup database ?
Do not actually do it, just go to that point when GPU-z check the existence in database of your BIOS.
On the other hand, i do not think that for your card were more than one producer of memory chip.
At that time i mean and for very old model.

 

[Steevo]

RaBiT Bios Editor 2.2 Download

RaBiT (Radeon ATI BIOS Tuner) is a BIOS Info/Editor utility designed for all ATI Radeon Graphic Cards. This Tool is designed to give you as much detai

www.techpowerup.com

Download your BIOS with this and post it, its been awhile but I bet I still have my notes from back in the day of how to change memory size and mod the older BIOS's.


DO NOT FLASH A NEW BIOS UNLESS YOU HAVE A BACKUP CARD!!!

 

[Imperator]

On the other hand, 9200 LE was made with 64MB as i remember.
I never saw LE edition with 128MB.
And i do not think you will find a true genuine specs for your card.

 

[eidairaman1]

On the other hand, 9200 LE was made with 64MB as i remember.
I never saw LE edition with 128MB.
And i do not think you will find a true genuine specs for your card.

It's a SE IIRC

 

[Ruru]

9200 SE is always with 4 memory chips (2 in both sides) as they're always 64-bit cards.

 

[eidairaman1]

9200 SE is always with 4 memory chips (2 in both sides) as they're always 64-bit cards.

This has 4 on each side so from chip datasheet it is 128MB card

 

[Steevo]

This has 4 on each side so from chip datasheet it is 128MB card

Plus the two 128 stickers.


Based on what you have shown this BIOS should work for your card, but before you put it on make a backup copy of your current BIOS and make sure you have some way to backup flash the card if it fails, Integrated graphics, a PCI graphics card, or get used to blind flashing.


*** DON'T TRY IT UNLESS YOU ARE READY FOR A DEAD CARD, I'M NOT AT FAULT NOR IS TECHPOWERUP IF YOU FLASH IT AND IT DOESN"T WORK***

Rosewill 9200 LE VBIOS

128 MB DDR, 250 MHz GPU, 200 MHz Memory

www.techpowerup.com

 

[kamil445]

When i clicked open onboard eeprom program show warning "BIOS CRC is incorrect!" but it can read it.

BIOS in attachment as ZIP archive

 

[Steevo]

As stated before this is a test BIOS and my not work. Its based off your BIOS but I have NOT had time to look at my old notes at home yet, so unless you want a possible dead card or have another way to backup flash don't flash a BIOS yet.

I'm assuming you are from EU or Asia as your sticker also shows its a PAL version instead of NTSC, looks like someone flashed a BIOS to make it work with NTSC and probably didn't realize what they were doing. If you use overclocking software you can see how far the GPU and memory can go and then write those clocks into the BIOS, a fan should be used if you want much more performance than the 250Mhz, these cards will typically artifact when they are clocked too high or get too hot as leakage was a much more significant problem with the process node.

 

[eidairaman1]

Plus the two 128 stickers.


Based on what you have shown this BIOS should work for your card, but before you put it on make a backup copy of your current BIOS and make sure you have some way to backup flash the card if it fails, Integrated graphics, a PCI graphics card, or get used to blind flashing.


*** DON'T TRY IT UNLESS YOU ARE READY FOR A DEAD CARD, I'M NOT AT FAULT NOR IS TECHPOWERUP IF YOU FLASH IT AND IT DOESN"T WORK***

Rosewill 9200 LE VBIOS

128 MB DDR, 250 MHz GPU, 200 MHz Memory

www.techpowerup.com

In this instance I physically verify ram because of fake cards or improper bios.

 

[Steevo]

In this instance I physically verify ram because of fake cards or improper bios.

8X16 MB chips is 128, they are 5ns chips, the pictures don’t show any signs of resoldering. I think someone got the card and flashed a “working” NTSC BIOS on it that limited the VMEM size. I will know more after I get home and load my old VM that has all the old tools on it.
Somewhere I still probably have the 500Mhz fox for windows 95.

 

[eidairaman1]

8X16 MB chips is 128, they are 5ns chips, the pictures don’t show any signs of resoldering. I think someone got the card and flashed a “working” NTSC BIOS on it that limited the VMEM size. I will know more after I get home and load my old VM that has all the old tools on it.
Somewhere I still probably have the 500Mhz fox for windows 95.

Yup I pull data sheets is why, so many fake 1050/1060s made me have to.

All programs see 64MB/64-bit. AGP is 8x, fast write is off, tried enable but automatically is set to off in windows. Fast read is enabled.

I searched in google for 9200 and i seen my card doesn't have one capacitor near AGP:
View attachment 241675

This can be the problem ?

I found similar cards to my and all have this capacitor:

and this card, there are additional two capacitors

Should i first try to reflash bios or add missing one or two capacitors ?

Use this bios

HIS 9200 SE VBIOS

128 MB DDR, 200 MHz GPU, 166 MHz Memory

www.techpowerup.com

 

[kamil445]

Should I flash BIOS via latest atiwinflash or older version ?

 

[Ruru]

Should I flash BIOS via latest atiwinflash or older version ?

Try with older as it's almost 20 years old card. I guess an older version has better compatibility.

 

[kamil445]

Oldest version is 2.0.1.11 ?

This version can't detect current BIOS version

 

[eidairaman1]

Oldest version is 2.0.1.11 ?

This version can't detect current BIOS version

View attachment 241934

You need to use one from around 2002-2004

 

[kamil445]

I tried several versions, 1.06 from 2005 is oldest working on xp, but still can't detect current BIOS, maybe beacuse BIOS is corrupted ?

 

[Ruru]

I'd try ATIFlash, though I can't remember does it work with command line or does it need to be in real DOS.