TPU's Nostalgic Hardware Club

[Bones]

That's a MSI MS-5146 - I remember I had one of those back in 2012 - it was singlehandedly the most stable with any Windows you could throw at it. 95, 98, ME, 2k, all ran crash free. IIRC, mine had come with a Pentium 233 MMX (set through the manual I think) and 96MB worth of EDO, as well as a 8.4GB Samsung SV0844A HDD.

That bit of info is useful - I had thought it was something MSI had farmed out to Premio and it's BIOS ident when I checked also came up as MSI.
It's still a Premio by name but nice to know what it is and how it came to be.

And here it is: MSI MS-5146 - The Retro Web

 

[ThaiTaffy]

So I was cleaning the shed earlier where my wife's old workstations have laid to rest and came across this old geforce card, so thought I'd show you lot. I'm guessing it's been heavily lived on by geckos for a few decades. I'll give it a scrub and put it into a cupboard maybe one day if I find an old board that works and try it out, wonder if it will run commander keen.

 

[MachineLearning]

So I was cleaning the shed earlier where my wife's old workstations have laid to rest and came across this old geforce card, so thought I'd show you lot. I'm guessing it's been heavily lived on by geckos for a few decades. I'll give it a scrub and put it into a cupboard maybe one day if I find an old board that works and try it out, wonder if it will run commander keen.View attachment 245417

Chaintech GeForce2 MX400 (32MB)
You appear to have the 64MB version, with a fan - I assume there are VRAM chips on the back as well.

Here is the Anantech review, which is nearly as old as me. Crazy... This is a wonderful read for someone who knows borderline nothing about this era of computing.

 

[ThaiTaffy]

Chaintech GeForce2 MX400 (32MB)
You appear to have the 64MB version, with a fan - I assume there are VRAM chips on the back as well.

Here is the Anantech review, which is nearly as old as me. Crazy... This is a wonderful read for someone who knows borderline nothing about this era of computing.

No chips on the back just a ton of rusted smd caps I'll need to be careful cleaning one fell off just when I picked it up. As I said it's had a pretty ruff storage I'll take a look at the review at some point maybe I can work out some replacement components for the really bad sections.

 

[lexluthermiester]

What about my question though?

Opps, sorry. Was so distracted by the screens I forgot about it. An Amiga emulator maybe?

 

[Trekkie4]

Trekkie's post and pics of his motherboard reminded me of what I have here.
It's a Premio 219-H board with a SiS 5571 chipset and yes, it still works.

Note the screened "Chart" for it's dipswitch settings to set the speed it runs the CPU at, showing it can run all the standard desktop CPU makes available at the time.

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That's a MSI MS-5146 - I remember I had one of those back in 2012 - it was singlehandedly the most stable with any Windows you could throw at it. 95, 98, ME, 2k, all ran crash free. IIRC, mine had come with a Pentium 233 MMX (set through the manual I think) and 96MB worth of EDO, as well as a 8.4GB Samsung SV0844A HDD.

Believe it or not, that was the idea... All I wanted was a generic Socket 7 motherboard capable of running Pentium 233 MMX! And to be honest, at first glance nothing really stood out or seemed out of place. In fact, it wasn't up until much later when I finally realized what is going on, essentially rendering the whole thing pretty much useless (at least to me).

I'm sure there's a Cyrix fan somewhere out there who would love to get their hands on IT586GX, but I don't even know if it works or not. Not to mention that I don't have the appropriate Cyrix GX Socket 7 CPU to try it out

 

[Greenslade]

Opps, sorry. Was so distracted by the screens I forget about it. An Amiga emulator maybe?

I have got Amiga Forever but it came up with all that stuff about can,t open it
Why won't it work on Windows 7?

 

[lexluthermiester]

I have got Amiga Forever but it came up with all that stuff about can,t open it
Why won't it work on Windows 7?

Have you tried FS-UAE?

FS-UAE Amiga Emulator

fs-uae.net

The latest version can be had below;

Download | FS-UAE Amiga Emulator

fs-uae.net

 

[QuietBob]

I have got Amiga Forever but it came up with all that stuff about can,t open it
Why won't it work on Windows 7?

You didn't say you were trying to run this in an emulator. Amiga Forever works on Win7, the latest version needs Vista at minimum. Could you share the link to the game you downloaded?

 

[Greenslade]

Have you tried FS-UAE?

FS-UAE Amiga Emulator

fs-uae.net

The latest version can be had below;

Download | FS-UAE Amiga Emulator

fs-uae.net

Thanks for that, I will give it a try But i do want to get games on my 40 Floppy diskettes I should have just got 20 of them. It is just a shame I did not wait and get the second 2 x 10 packs first at 8 pounds. Instead of getting the opened 20 pack which cost me 2.50 more and there the later version ones with the plastic shutters,

 

[Ruru]

Just checked my old imgur pics and saw this, actually my daily driver years ago isn't so different when compared to my current HTPC

Old:

Current 2nd rig:

 

[lexluthermiester]

Thanks for that, I will give it a try But i do want to get games on my 40 Floppy diskettes I should have just got 20 of them. It is just a shame I did not wait and get the second 2 x 10 packs first at 8 pounds. Instead of getting the opened 20 pack which cost me 2.50 more and there the later version ones with the plastic shutters,

There are disk imaging programs that will allow you to write Amiga disk image files to an actual floppy disk.

 

[oobymach]

Dug up some old pics of an old pc before I put a decent gpu in it, bought new and pretty much immediately added the exhaust fan, replaced the cpu with a better one, added another 2gb of ram, and upgraded to windows 7. Click to enlarge.

 

[MachineLearning]

Dug up some old pics of an old pc before I put a decent gpu in it, bought new and pretty much immediately added the exhaust fan, replaced the cpu with a better one, added another 2gb of ram, and upgraded to windows 7. Click to enlarge.

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ECS MCP61SM-AM, nForce 520 LE / 6100S

CPU was prod. week 05/2007.
Nice.

 

[MaxiPro800]

Welp, I lived enough to see failed, dried out Panasonic FL caps turn my ABIT BE6-II into a total crashfest. 8 dried FL buggers had to be replaced including a Rubycon MBZ which I relocated. Board now POSTs all times, and has no issues anymore.

Source of the donor caps which work now was an discarded ASUS M2NPV-MX (which is the more gutless variant of the M2NPV-VM which I already own) which had about 11 of those good working FL caps.

What is left untouched is a row of 3 Rubycon MBZs 6.3v 1500uF in the EC12, EC15 and EC16 spots. Those seem to be fine and I don't have any doubts of those. It's just the FLs that seem to have gone bad, surprisingly.

Now to decide which GPU... Geforce 2 Pro 64MB from MSI or a Palit Daytona Radeon 7500 64MB...

 

[lexluthermiester]

Palit Daytona Radeon 7500 64MB...

This. At the time, the Radeons were the better choice as they performed better and had more features. When the Geforce 3 came out, the game changed a little bit. But between those two cards the Radeon is the clear choice as shown in the reviews below.

NVIDIA GeForce2 Pro

www.anandtech.com

In this review the GF2pro is shown getting much better results than OG Radeon, but not better than what is shown in the following review of the Radeon 7500.

ATI Radeon 7500

We've just recently posted our review of the R8500, ATi's flagship graphics card. As the reviewer in charge I enjoyed the change from the NVIDIA cards that I've had in my system just recently. I get to continue my NVIDIA hiatus again with an ATi card, this time with the Radeon 7500. The 7500 is...

hexus.net

 

[Bones]

While I'm on a roll here:

 

[onemanhitsquad]

It is time for another episode of "What's In The Tub?"

Always fun to see what you stashed and lost track of. I was looking for this video card , GeForce 4 TI 4600 because it never worked properly from out of the box , I figured I would give it another look , I love to be disappointed!
The Thermaltake fan was a add-on that they sold

The tub!


assorted network cards , wired and wireless...cool Abit AirPace pci-e card



sound cards and a misc ATI card



a couple of Ageia Physx cards and the Ti 4600




assorted vid cards and a WinTV card

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[lexluthermiester]

It is time for another episode of "What's In The Tub?"

Always fun to see what you stashed and lost track of. I was looking for this video card , GeForce 4 TI 4600 because it never worked properly from out of the box , I figured I would give it another look , I love to be disappointed!
The Thermaltake fan was a add-on that they sold

The tub!


assorted network cards , wired and wireless...cool Abit AirPace pci-e card

sound cards and a misc ATI card

a couple of Ageia Physx cards and the Ti 4600

assorted vid cards and a WinTV card

Your pics aren't showing..

 

[RyzenMaster.sys]

They are multiplying

Bought a complete haswell i5 system for $50 off of marketplace that is too new to discuss here.

But it came with this board installed in a crap case included as well.

The board was untested but works perfectly. It's actually in better shape than mine which has a slightly bent but functional x16 slot, slightly bent Northridge heatsink, and cosmetically broken bottle ram "latches".

I really don't need 2 of these, unsure of what I'll do with it lol.

 

[QuietBob]

This. At the time, the Radeons were the better choice as they performed better and had more features.

IIRC the Radeon 7500 also scaled better with faster CPUs.

I really don't need 2 of these, unsure of what I'll do with it lol.

I've also got two of the same model, one in daily use in my secondary PC. One of the best AM3+ boards, no doubt.

 

[lexluthermiester]

IIRC the Radeon 7500 also scaled better with faster CPUs.

That was my experience as well. It was a great card when paired with a Pentium2 400, but match it with a Pentium 3 650 OC'd to 866 and the Radeon 7500 really shined! I look back at it as a best-of-generation card.

 

[Robert B]

FRESH LOOT!

1. PC Siemens Nixdorf PCD-3Msx - 386 - It is like a fine jewel.Nicely built and sturdy. A 420MB Conner has a place to call home.
2. GA-486SV REV.7 + AMD DX2 80MHz, S3 VLB - battery damage repair - all good. I used a dark green lacquer to cover the traces easily removed with IPA or acetone. Luckily no trace has been damaged. YAY! \O/.
3. Abit KG7-RAID - mighty AMD 760 from 2001 - 20 years have passed in the blink of an eye! Uhhh ABIT! The Legend is dead, LONG LIVE THE LEGEND!
4. MSI K7 PRO Slot A + AMD 600MHz - AOpen HQ45A case and AOpen 250W PSU
5. FDD 5.25" + 100 floppy disks, many new
6. PEAKTRON ELECTRONICS PA286-SA1. My name is Harris! 80286 Harris! My 16MHz are ready to rumble the bits and bytes! 4x1MB 60ns FTW!!!!

Wish me luck next week when I power the relics on!

This is just a sample of the stuff I got lately.

 

[MaxiPro800]

That was my experience as well. It was a great card when paired with a Pentium2 400, but match it with a Pentium 3 650 OC'd to 866 and the Radeon 7500 really shined! I look back at it as a best-of-generation card.

I'm running a 1100, so that should be mighty enough.

 

[RyzenMaster.sys]

New acquisition! It's an original Asus Striker Extreme complete with the matching Asus Supreme-FX sound card and IO shield. Atop it is I believe a QX6800 Extreme Edition, stock cooler, and 1gb of Corsair XMS2 ram.

To the right is my faulty Striker Extreme. That board looks like it's been stored in a moist basement perhaps and you can see how tarnished the heatpipes are.
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Was sold as untested from a recycler who apparently pulled it from a recycled PC. Was a $27 auction snipe. Will be thrilled if it works.

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In case anyone is wondering, it does indeed work with 45nm quad cores, despite none being on the supported list.
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Now I can do some SLI tests on 775, that's really nice.

I managed to fix the non working corroded striker extreme through a ton of scrubbing and cleaning some solder joints.

I also gave the copper a good brushing to remove all of the corrosion. I need some polish to make it shine.

It's still giving me issues with core based CPUs It will post once, freeze and then not post again.

It works ok with netburst tho.