Windows 11 General Discussion

[Ruru]

Well, I have Win11 on my ThinkPad E540 which has a 4th gen CPU, and it installed without any problems and no tweaks needed.

I got your point though, but maybe laptops are just easier what it comes to the requirements.

 

[windwhirl]

So even the Microsoft employees take it easy and use Windows 11 even on non-supported hardware. One can assume that Microsoft's specifications will not change with Windows 11 22H2.

Makes you wonder who exactly asked for such tight requirements. A high level executive, for sure.

 

[Ruru]

Makes you wonder who exactly asked for such tight requirements. A high level executive, for sure.

Kinda stupid as Win10 works (at least the older builds) with Athlon 64 X2 without any problems, now Win11 requires much newer hardware though the OS isn't practically any heavier.

 

[windwhirl]

Kinda stupid as Win10 works (at least the older builds) with Athlon 64 X2 without any problems, now Win11 requires much newer hardware though the OS isn't practically any heavier.

I mean, I see the point for recommending relatively high-ish minimum specs, but not for forcing them.

For Microsoft it should be enough to say "fuck you, your computer doesn't meet or exceed the minimum spec, so if something goes wrong, it's your problem not mine" with the on-paper requirements, without even forcing them in the code.

 

[Ruru]

I mean, I see the point for recommending relatively high-ish minimum specs, but not for forcing them.

For Microsoft it should be enough to say "fuck you, your computer doesn't meet or exceed the minimum spec, so if something goes wrong, it's your problem not mine" with the on-paper requirements, without even forcing them in the code.

Agree. My X58 system refuses to install because unsupported hardware. I know I could bypass that though, but well, let's just stay with Win10 on that.

 

[plastiscɧ]

we will find a solution. "alternativeLESS" is a word invented by Angela Merkel. There is always a choice since we all have seen the Matrix Movie.

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
Well there is an official MS cpu workaround
Whether the laptop/ machine has tpm module or bios update is the gray area and likely not.

At least it did bsod live again but of course they could blame eol system this time

 

[plastiscɧ]

I use ExplorerPatcher to get the old Taskbar. I should probably combine it with Openshell but have not bothered yet.

absolutely! it is all i need as well.

it does change the start menu too.

 

[ExcuseMeWtf]

Interesting video:

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
Sure I own my pc I can put which ever os I choose to
Unfortunately there aren't a lot of choices Linux or windows

 

[R-T-B]

Interesting video:

Yeah, I don't even need to watch that to know the angle it's going to try to argue, and it's fearmongering.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Yeah, I don't even need to watch that to know the angle it's going to try to argue, and it's fearmongering.

To be fair, there is some merit to the concerns expressed by the guy in that video. While I think he leans toward the "Tin-hat" side of things, the points he touches on are thoughts I have had as well. It does feel like microsoft is trying to tighten the grip of control in a way we all should be worried about.

 

[R-T-B]

As long as people refuse to use their store they'll find a very uphill battle to do anything of the sort.

At any rate, the day signed programs becomes a requirement is the day I abandon windows.

 

[lexluthermiester]

At any rate, the day signed programs becomes a requirement is the day I abandon windows.

I will simply find or help make a crack for that kind of nonsense.

 

[ExcuseMeWtf]

To be fair, there is some merit to the concerns expressed by the guy in that video. While I think he leans toward the "Tin-hat" side of things, the points he touches on are thoughts I have had as well. It does feel like microsoft is trying to tighten the grip of control in a way we all should be worried about.

Yeah, his assessment of e.g. Apple T&C is quite accurate. It's definitely not out of the question that MS would like to go similar way. And in fact push towards online account and "10 S" experiment show. Latter failed due to customer backlash purely.

 

[lexluthermiester]

It's definitely not out of the question that MS would like to go similar way.

A good portion of the PC market would never accept or co-operate.

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
All this new security will definitely make it harder to clean install
OEM encrypted drives seems the latest issue with one op lately from dell opening a machine usually voids warranties
Heck maybe locked bios later to save you from the boogie man when this starts and they won't say how to unlock then you'd be renting a machine.

Hi,
Linux is a sad joke next to windows

Finally broke down and I'm trying explorer patcher
Seems okay

Anyone know how to get explorer on 10 and 11 to stop making selections all the same length as the longest name even on short names
On win-7 files selections are only as long as the actual name per file not every sticking one this really is annoying as hell
It makes clicking off more complicated than it should be.
.

 

[plastiscɧ]

u mean like this?

Anyone know how to get explorer on 10 and 11 to stop making selections all the same length as the longest name even on short names
On win-7 files selections are only as long as the actual name per file not every sticking one this really is annoying as hell
It makes clicking off more complicated than it should be.

 

[windwhirl]

Anyone know how to get explorer on 10 and 11 to stop making selections all the same length as the longest name even on short names
On win-7 files selections are only as long as the actual name per file not every sticking one this really is annoying as hell
It makes clicking off more complicated than it should be.
.

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... There's a way with Ultimate Windows Tweaker, but it breaks Dark mode. And the explorer feels glitchy, if you ask me.

u mean like this?

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No, they just don't want full row select. They want this:

Instead of this:

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
Here's what I'm referring to on win-7
Notice each file selected are different length
Win-10 and now 11 the selected area are the same length I hate that crap

It do seem like full line select for sure list view mostly

 

[lexluthermiester]

Hi,
Here's what I'm referring to on win-7
Notice each file selected are different length
Win-10 and now 11 the selected area are the same length I hate that crap
View attachment 245673

It do seem like full line select for sure list view mostly

Why does full line selection matter? Doesn't bother me at all. Doesn't impact my usage either. Only wondering..

 

[plastiscɧ]

so if i, after research, have understood correctly it only works with external explorer generic programs. because in newer windows versions the file paths can be up to 260 characters long. which was not the case in the 7.
but for this I can not be nailed down

 

[windwhirl]

Why does full line selection matter? Doesn't bother me at all. Doesn't impact my usage either. Only wondering..

Because if you try to click away from a file (say, you don't want to select it), clicking anywhere in the entire row selects the file (whether you click on the blank space or on the space used by the data of the Detailed view columns such as Modified date and such). Not just if you click on the space its name takes.

That means that list/detailed view has a very small space that is like two or three pixels tall between each line where clicking doesn't select a file, while previously it was enough to not click directly on the file's name.

To be fair this is more of a per-person thing. Some people like full row selection and others hate it. I personally don't mind as much but sometimes it sucks.

 

[ThrashZone]

Why does full line selection matter? Doesn't bother me at all. Doesn't impact my usage either. Only wondering..

Hi,
Like I said in my first reply above that post you quoted it limits the space I can click off a file to deselect it
I primarily use point to select which has never been a big deal until win-10 and now 11 totally messed up my flow
Double click sux and wears out mouse buttons

Tried using check boxes that didn't work very well I end up with the same issue clicking off to deselect if the item isn't on the same view seeing I'm scrolling through hundreds of movies... with list view/ icons sux just takes up to much page room all I need is a name to show

I actually forgot I checked a box and checked another and deleted that file but I noticed it said delete two items and canceled oops damnit

So yeah I really don't care about dark mode @windwhirl if you can point me to a way to kills this nonsense I'd love to try it thanks for the heads up

 

[lexluthermiester]

Because if you try to click away from a file (say, you don't want to select it), clicking anywhere in the entire row selects the file (whether you click on the blank space or on the space used by the data of the Detailed view columns such as Modified date and such). Not just if you click on the space its name takes.

So just click to a part of the screen not associated with that file. It's not difficult to easily deselect.

Double click sux and wears out mouse buttons

I have rarely had that experience. It's not something to worry too much about..