Which GPU for moderate video editing, streaming and gaming should I go for now that "everything" is sold out? Budget: about €600/$650

[Thimblewad]

1) You gave him 3 overpriced Amazon GPUs, none of which were worth the while at their prices.

2) Yes I did, in fact I'm going to do it in a while just to confirm NVENC is faster and doesn't lack quality.

3) He's not doing it professionally and that sounds like an oxymoron.

1. No GPU on the market at this time is priced "worth while".
2. It lacks quality for me, just like listening to YT music or lossless audio and you can't deny it looks worse.
3. "Professionally" in video-editing world comes way faster than you think and sooner than later you need your stuff to be top notch quality, that is my opinion.
4. I'm not flaming, trolling or anything, this is just a really good chat session for me so sorry if I came off strong

 

[X71200]

1. No GPU on the market at this time that is priced "worth while".
2. It lacks quality for me, just like listening to YT music or lossless audio and you can't deny it looks worse.
3. "Professionally" in video-editing world comes way faster than you think and sooner than later you need your stuff to be top notch quality, that is my opinion.
4. I'm not flaming, trolling or anything, this is just a really good chat session for me so sorry if I came off strong

The first part is true but some are "more" worth their while than others, making them obviously better purchases during these troubled times.

You're talking about listening to lossless audio which is not a common task, I'm sure you listen to YouTube all day and rarely the lossless files, so let's be real there.

And well, professionally... the OP is not doing this stuff on a professional basis / for money whatever. Even if he advances in this area, it's not like NVENC lacks to hinder his performance or quality. Yes, CPU can outperform it... but it's hard at 1080p. You probably need an even beastier CPU than that 12700 (compared to say the 3070 you mentioned).

 

[Thimblewad]

Everything below the 6700 XT will soon face problems. Either because low bandwith even with the highest PCI-E spec, or because of little VRAM. 8GB for me today is not enough. If you're buying a card today, go for at least 12 GB.
I want a 6800 XT solely because I'm affraid 12 GB will not be enough for my ultrawide.

I listen to "lossless" all the time, my whole music collection is in FLAC, more than 22 thousand songs

So basically, we need for OP to tell us what software he is using

Edit: Reading my post made me realize I have a problem with "lossless" quality everything. Help.

 

[X71200]

You're honestly coming up with unrelated and random takes like listening to FLAC all the time.

Same goes for what you said about bandwidth of the PCI-E spec... 8gb, well, it's fine. I can roll MSFS at ultra and it most certainly doesn't lack. 12gb is sure as hell better, but streaming Twitch doesn't require insane amounts of vRAM. 8gb is probably fine for his video renders too, after all.. unprofessional stuff.

I'm not worried about my card having problems anytime soon.

 

[Thimblewad]

Just waiting for the OP to post what he's using so we can help him further. Nothing else. As per previous post.

 

[X71200]

Here are couple screenies from 1080p, keep in mind that this is with nothing going on and a 12 core high OC CPU. Both do well, but GPU is a bit ahead. If you include a far more intense situation, I wouldn't doubt GPU to come on top. Neither really lack on quality.

 

[winterwonderland]

OP, best off post location so we can get better suggestions. They're from EU so ordering over Newegg wouldn't be an actual go.

I did in my OP; I am in Norway. And no, Newegg is not an option for me.

 

[Thimblewad]

I did in my OP; I am in Norway. And no, Newegg is not an option for me.

Mostly for the EU market, Amazon.de seems to have the best deals. You're in the EU so shipping costs shouldn't be too much.
Basically what gives you the ability to get the best deal: keep track of the prices all the time. Insane deals come and go.

What programs do you use with your GPU? How long do you plan to keep it?

 

[winterwonderland]

Mostly for the EU market, Amazon.de seems to have the best deals. You're in the EU so shipping costs shouldn't be too much.
Basically what gives you the ability to get the best deal: keep track of the prices all the time. Insane deals come and go.

What programs do you use with your GPU? How long do you plan to keep it?

Apologies. I should've mentioned in my OP that Norway is NOT part of EU, hence why shipping gets quite expensive when ordering from Amazon, which in return makes Amazon useless for me, at least when it comes to ordering a GPU, unfortunately.

All I wanted with this thread was to get a "list" of GPU's to be on the lookout for, so I know what I should be aiming for, considering the vast jungle of GPU's that are out there.

For streaming, I use OBS. For video editing, I use Davinci Resolve. I plan to keep it for as long as possible. Years, if possible.

 

[Thimblewad]

Apologies. I should've mentioned in my OP that Norway is NOT part of EU, hence why shipping gets quite expensive when ordering from Amazon, which in return makes Amazon useless for me, at least when it comes to ordering a GPU, unfortunately.

All I wanted with this thread was to get a "list" of GPU's to be on the lookout for, so I know what I should be aiming for, considering the vast jungle of GPU's that are out there.

For streaming, I use OBS. For video editing, I use Davinci Resolve. I plan to keep it for as long as possible. Years, if possible.

I completely forgot Norway wasn't in the EU, sorry

Could you give us an example of store prices there? If I understand correctly, you can only buy nationaly to avoid shipping fees and customs?

Looking at the fact you're using DaVinci, you should go the Nvidia way then. The 3060 Ti and 3070 are currently the best buy for you. Is it worth 100€ more? This guy makes a great video.

 

[X71200]

3070 is more raw power, but the 3060 Ti is quite bit of power as well. Both would do relatively well in those tasks. 3070 will get some quicker rendering times, but yeah, the 3060 Ti is no slouch either.

 

[Count von Schwalbe]

3070 is more raw power, but the 3060 Ti is quite bit of power as well. Both would do relatively well in those tasks. 3070 will get some quicker rendering times, but yeah, the 3060 Ti is no slouch either.

Both are a good choice. See attached picture.

Puget systems builds high-end rigs (think threadripper plus 3x 3090) for specific applications.

Edit: they wrote a software to benchmark application specific hardware suitability.

Also, the reason that AMD cards score so low is because Resolve works way better with CUDA, which is Nvidia only.

 

[X71200]

I'd take that chart with a grain of salt. If you look at the overall power of a 3070, it's beyond 3060 Ti. But yeah, they're both good.

Puget builds those for professionals that are after rendering different works concurrently with multi-GPU, or just getting lower render times. Though, you can always exclude their task and build it yourself anyway, lol.

 

[eidairaman1]

Everything below the 6700 XT will soon face problems. Either because low bandwith even with the highest PCI-E spec, or because of little VRAM. 8GB for me today is not enough. If you're buying a card today, go for at least 12 GB.
I want a 6800 XT solely because I'm affraid 12 GB will not be enough for my ultrawide.

I listen to "lossless" all the time, my whole music collection is in FLAC, more than 22 thousand songs

So basically, we need for OP to tell us what software he is using

Edit: Reading my post made me realize I have a problem with "lossless" quality everything. Help.

Both are a good choice. See attached picture.

Puget systems builds high-end rigs (think threadripper plus 3x 3090) for specific applications.

Edit: they wrote a software to benchmark application specific hardware suitability.

Also, the reason that AMD cards score so low is because Resolve works way better with CUDA, which is Nvidia only.

Don't feed the troll, they will argue that the sky is violet, bind their fingers, mouth, toes, with duct tape.

 

[X71200]

You can definitely see here that the 3070 is a tiny bit ahead of the 3060 Ti, margin of error down that test, probably. It's the stronger gaming card, though.

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They can use the CPU too, as I mentioned earlier.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Looking at the fact you're using DaVinci, you should go the Nvidia way then. The 3060 Ti and 3070 are currently the best buy for you.

This. Davinci Resolve works better in NVidia GPU's.

 

[winterwonderland]

I completely forgot Norway wasn't in the EU, sorry

Could you give us an example of store prices there? If I understand correctly, you can only buy nationaly to avoid shipping fees and customs?

Looking at the fact you're using DaVinci, you should go the Nvidia way then. The 3060 Ti and 3070 are currently the best buy for you. Is it worth 100€ more? This guy makes a great video.

Correct. If i go on ebay, amazon, wish (sorry, i had to), i have to pay fees and customs.

3070 is more raw power, but the 3060 Ti is quite bit of power as well. Both would do relatively well in those tasks. 3070 will get some quicker rendering times, but yeah, the 3060 Ti is no slouch either.

This. Davinci Resolve works better in NVidia GPU's.

Okay, so the 3070 is about €200 more expensive than the 3060 ti, which is about €600... However, this seems to be the cheapest 3060 ti available here in Norway - but does it matter if it's the MSI version, or does it have to be Nvidia specific..? Sorry for not understanding that part completely.

Also, another thing i need to consider, it seems: getting myself a new PSU! My current one is 550W, and if i'd go for a 3060 ti, wouldn't that "kill" my pc since it needs that much power, or?

 

[X71200]

No, it doesn't matter which brand the card is - regarding 3D render performance. However, it does matter to have a good cooler, for example. That Ventus is likely going to perform at the higher ends of temperatures, I'd recommend something of this sort:

https://www.komplett.no/product/1188488/datautstyr/pc-komponenter/skjermkort/asus-geforce-rtx-3060-ti-tuf-oc-v2

The Supernova is a good PSU and as long as you're within the power limits aka don't overclock to saturn, you'll be fine.

 

[elghinnarisa]

Correct. If i go on ebay, amazon, wish (sorry, i had to), i have to pay fees and customs.



Okay, so the 3070 is about €200 more expensive than the 3060 ti, which is about €600... However, this seems to be the cheapest 3060 ti available here in Norway - but does it matter if it's the MSI version, or does it have to be Nvidia specific..? Sorry for not understanding that part completely.

Also, another thing i need to consider, it seems: getting myself a new PSU! My current one is 550W, and if i'd go for a 3060 ti, wouldn't that "kill" my pc since it needs that much power, or?

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Sorted by price in stock including 3060, 3060ti, 3070 and 3070 ti. It does not count "incoming stock" however, just currently. Seems that ~5990 is the cheapest for a 3060 ti currently, and a 3060 as cheap as 4656.
With the cheapest 3070 currently in stock being ~7700.

 

[X71200]

This is Gigabyte but would work:

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[eidairaman1]

You can't go wrong with Radeon either, at this rate it's going to be about your budget.

You may have to go to ebay/offerup/craigslist like pages and make sure you test the card in person in their system.

And use GPU-Z to verify the bios on the card matches the model labled on the back of the card

 

[X71200]

Yeah well, if the Radeon doesn't do great enough, they can always use the CPU anyway. I'd shoot for the Nvidia for the CUDA and whatnot, though.

 

[Count von Schwalbe]

This. Davinci Resolve works better in NVidia GPU's.

In my experience, an Intel iGPU works better than an AMD card. I would recommend a 3060 TI, the brand doesn't really matter besides their cooling system design.

This would probably be your best bet. I doubt a 3070 would be worth the extra money.

 

[lexluthermiester]

but does it matter if it's the MSI version

No, the MSI card will be just fine and will have better cooling that the NVidia FE versions. If the 3060ti is what best suits your budget then go for it, especially that one which is well built.

You can't go wrong with Radeon either, at this rate it's going to be about your budget.

No. Davinci Resolve very much favors NVidia GPU's. Radeon GPU's fall behind in performance by as much as 16% when comparing similar performance tier models. I have seen this personally. NVidia is the better choice for the OP.

In my experience, an Intel iGPU works better than an AMD card.

In Davinci Resolve? I doubt that very much. But I'll be honest, I've never tried DR with an Intel IGP.

 

[eidairaman1]

No, the MSI card will be just fine and will have better cooling that the NVidia FE versions. If the 3060ti is what best suits your budget then go for it, especially that one which is well built.


No. Davinci Resolve very much favors NVidia GPU's. Radeon GPU's fall behind in performance by as much as 16% when comparing similar performance tier models. I have seen this personally. NVidia is the better choice for the OP.


In Davinci Resolve? I doubt that very much. But I'll be honest, I've never tried DR with an Intel IGP.

You can change the settings in resolve to use which gpu you want.