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Mussels · May 12, 2022

Either my CPU mutated, or somethings changed with the new AGESA

Ran it three times, it thinks i can do -30 on all cores

Edit: i get the feeling it's not actually applying the undervolt

Deleted member 202104 · May 12, 2022

Mussels said:
Either my CPU mutated, or somethings changed with the new AGESA

Ran it three times, it thinks i can do -30 on all cores

View attachment 247109

RM said -19 all-core for my 5950x. It crashed on CPU-Z Benchmark.

Go home AMD, you're drunk.

Mussels · May 12, 2022

-30 is saved in the BIOS, and 100% stable... but i'm not seeing any reduction in voltages. may be bugged BIOS.

tabascosauz · May 12, 2022

Mussels said:
-30 is saved in the BIOS, and 100% stable... but i'm not seeing any reduction in voltages. may be bugged BIOS.

My 5700G recommendations weren't even in the same ballpark as stable. It takes a special kind of stupid to crash during AIDA for CPU, not mem instability. It tried to recommend some -30 BS for my 5900X as well, so it's not even that it doesn't understand APUs.

It's still testing the cores out to what feels like reasonable clocks, so it must be something wonky with its post-test evaluation.

So many good tools out there for testing CO at this point. Ryzen Master is no faster at testing either. Literally another worthless feature from AMD software team.

Mussels · May 12, 2022

weekendgeek said:
RM said -19 all-core for my 5950x. It crashed on CPU-Z Benchmark.

Go home AMD, you're drunk.

RM has an offset, so you can let it pick its saved settings and do +5 so -25 becomes -20 for this reason

tabascosauz said:
My 5700G recommendations weren't even in the same ballpark as stable. It takes a special kind of stupid to crash during AIDA for CPU, not mem instability. It tried to recommend some -30 BS for my 5900X as well, so it's not even that it doesn't understand APUs.

It's still testing the cores out to what feels like reasonable clocks, so it must be something wonky with its post-test evaluation.

So many good tools out there for testing CO at this point. Ryzen Master is no faster at testing either. Literally another worthless feature from AMD software team.

Tested on my brothers system, and it worked flawlessy with his 5900x

It's just not working for everyone, why is that worthless?

Deleted member 202104 · May 12, 2022

Mussels said:
RM has an offset, so you can let it pick its saved settings and do +5 so -25 becomes -20 for this reason

It also has an uninstall option which I used.

tabascosauz · May 12, 2022

Mussels said:
RM has an offset, so you can let it pick its saved settings and do +5 so -25 becomes -20 for this reason

Tested on my brothers system, and it worked flawlessy with his 5900x

It's just not working for everyone, why is that worthless?

Isn't it instructed that you supposed to set all 0 for RM, if determining (not just testing) CO values? Or, I'm pretty sure it forces a reboot first to clear the AMD OC BIOS menu before it starts testing.

Then it becomes no better than CTR......because corecycler and OCCT work as advertised, every time, and have been around since forever. They might have some minor differences as to the exact offset that they think is stable, but nothing as nearly egregious as mistaking -2 or -9 for -30 all core.

Also, what's "100% stable"? Did you test? If your 5800X is already able to do at least -20 or even max out at -30, then you won't see enough instability to crash in daily tasks...

Mussels · May 13, 2022

tabascosauz said:
Isn't it instructed that you supposed to set all 0 for RM, if determining (not just testing) CO values? Or, I'm pretty sure it forces a reboot first to clear the AMD OC BIOS menu before it starts testing.

Then it becomes no better than CTR......because corecycler and OCCT work as advertised, every time, and have been around since forever. They might have some minor differences as to the exact offset that they think is stable, but nothing as nearly egregious as mistaking -2 or -9 for -30 all core.

Also, what's "100% stable"? Did you test? If your 5800X is already able to do at least -20 or even max out at -30, then you won't see enough instability to crash in daily tasks...

Some of my cores are unstable lower than -5
corecycler and OCCT cant automatically adjust BIOS settings and save the results, so for those of us where it works, it's simple.
I'm on a broken BIOS, doesnt matter what software or BIOS settings i enter, nothing will work until i update it.

freeagent · May 13, 2022

Mussels said:
I'm on a broken BIOS, doesnt matter what software or BIOS settings i enter, nothing will work until i update it.

Why don't you update it? Just curious..

tabascosauz · May 14, 2022

Testing the 2205 5700G

Damn.......why can't we get this kind of core temp delta on chiplets? Less than 2 degrees across all cores. Default corecycler so each core draws about 17-18W maxed out.

Mussels · May 15, 2022

freeagent said:
Why don't you update it? Just curious..

Cause it's the latest BETA that's got this bug, and apart from the curve not working everything else is great. I'm getting my full performance at lower temps even without a functional curve undervolt.

freeagent · May 15, 2022

I still want a 5800X, I know they are beasts.. If it is easier to cool than a 5900X I would flip it for sure. It still does 5GHz, and that's all I really wanted, well and a 2K FCLK

My Strix boards have been fantastic for me, I don't have anything bad to say, other than the price of the XE is steep for a B550. But it kind of makes up for it in other areas..

Mussels · May 15, 2022

freeagent said:
I still want a 5800X, I know they are beasts.. If it is easier to cool than a 5900X I would flip it for sure. It still does 5GHz, and that's all I really wanted, well and a 2K FCLK

My Strix boards have been fantastic for me, I don't have anything bad to say, other than the price of the XE is steep for a B550. But it kind of makes up for it in other areas..

They need less cooling, and multi threaded temps are low - they just have high spikes low threaded for that nuts boost.

I can get 80C single threaded and 60C multi threaded, and that just confuses people who assume that ST should be cooler than MT

YautjaLord · May 21, 2022

Some fixing has to be done, but overall runs good, only thing non-stock is RAM frequency - 4000MHz (XMP). Pics:

3DMark Port Royal Ryzen 9 5900X @ 3.7GHz 4x8GB HyperX Predator @ 4000MHz.jpg

3DMark Port Royal score Ryzen 9 5900X @ 3.7GHz 4x8GB HyperX Predator @ 4000MHz.jpg

3DMark Port Royal score Ryzen 9 5900X @ 3.7GHz 4x8GB HyperX Predator @ 4000MHz #2.jpg

Cinebench R15 Ryzen 9 5900X @ 3.7GHz 4x8GB HyperX Predator @ 4000MHz.jpg

Cinebench R20 Ryzen 9 5900X @ 3.7GHz 4x8GB HyperX Predator @ 4000MHz.jpg

Video is in a works (yeah, i know, it takes a f*ckload of time, i myself shocked :laugh:

), will edit it on this beast. One more:

Last pic taken with Galaxy A71.

Deleted member 24505 · May 21, 2022

YautjaLord said:
Some fixing has to be done, but overall runs good, only thing non-stock is RAM frequency - 4000MHz (XMP). Pics:

View attachment 248229 View attachment 248230 View attachment 248231 View attachment 248232

Video is in a works (yeah, i know, it takes a f*ckload of time, i myself shocked ), will edit it on this beast. One more:

View attachment 248233

Last pic taken with Galaxy A71.

The two kinked pipes look awful, why not put low profile 90's on them?

YautjaLord · May 21, 2022

Tigger said:
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The two kinked pipes look awful, why not put low profile 90's on them?

They not actually kinked, but rather "twisted" a bit? Also, low profile 90's? Maybe i'll loosen 'em up a bit & won't be so awful as you describe. :laugh:

Thanx regardless. Would still like to know what are the low profile 90's are. :toast:

Deleted member 24505 · May 21, 2022

YautjaLord said:
They not actually kinked, but rather "twisted" a bit? Also, low profile 90's? Maybe i'll loosen 'em up a bit & won't be so awful as you describe. Thanx regardless. Would still like to know what are the low profile 90's are.

These
https://www.ekwb.com/news/the-most-compact-90-rotary-adapters-for-sff-builds/

YautjaLord · May 21, 2022

Tigger said:
These
https://www.ekwb.com/news/the-most-compact-90-rotary-adapters-for-sff-builds/

Maybe buy a couple of these by the end of this year, thanx. I call them angled fittings. :laugh:

Mussels · May 23, 2022

Tigger said:
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The two kinked pipes look awful, why not put low profile 90's on them?

Over time, bent hoses like that pull out slowly and leak - definitely work on it when you can

outpt · May 23, 2022

weekendgeek said:
RM said -19 all-core for my 5950x. It crashed on CPU-Z Benchmark.

Go home AMD, you're drunk.

-29 on my 5950x. That’s a hard pass for me. Maybe they need to change the filter on their bong.

Pictus · May 23, 2022

Mussels said:
Either my CPU mutated, or somethings changed with the new AGESA

Ran it three times, it thinks i can do -30 on all cores

View attachment 247109

Edit: i get the feeling it's not actually applying the undervolt

Not 100% sure, but I think here(TUF Gaming B550-Plus) seems like the Curve Optimizer only works
from the ADVANCED menu and not from the AI TWEAKER menu, at least from the latest beta BIOS.

The King · May 24, 2022

FCLK 1933 No WHEA errors

R0H1T · May 24, 2022

The latest (beta) BIOS' rolling with ~

Update to AGESA ComboAm4v2PI 1.2.0.7.

MSI MAG x570 updated :cool:

Mussels · May 26, 2022

I'm really leaning towards getting a 5500 for my x370/2700x rig at some point

Now this is from Toms so it's not what i'd call TPU levels of neutrality, but it's matching what i've seen of mine and my brothers 3700x averaging 120FPS in modern titles even with high end GPU's

So if the 5500 is a tiny upgrade to my 3700x, it should be a good upgrade from my 2700x... you know, the one thats missing three pins and has bits of cut off SATA cable in the socket to make it boot.

freeagent · May 26, 2022

Mussels said:
you know, the one thats missing three pins and has bits of cut off SATA cable in the socket to make it boot.

I love hearing stories like this.

System Name	Rainbow Sparkles (Power efficient, <350W gaming load)
Processor	Ryzen R7 5800x3D (Undervolted, 4.45GHz all core)
Motherboard	Asus x570-F (BIOS Modded)
Cooling	Alphacool Apex UV - Alphacool Eisblock XPX Aurora + EK Quantum ARGB 3090 w/ active backplate
Memory	2x32GB DDR4 3600 Corsair Vengeance RGB @3866 C18-22-22-22-42 TRFC704 (1.4V Hynix MJR - SoC 1.15V)
Video Card(s)	Galax RTX 3090 SG 24GB: Underclocked to 1700Mhz 0.750v (375W down to 250W))
Storage	2TB WD SN850 NVME + 1TB Sasmsung 970 Pro NVME + 1TB Intel 6000P NVME USB 3.2
Display(s)	Phillips 32 32M1N5800A (4k144), LG 32" (4K60) \| Gigabyte G32QC (2k165) \| Phillips 328m6fjrmb (2K144)
Case	Fractal Design R6
Audio Device(s)	Logitech G560 \| Corsair Void pro RGB \|Blue Yeti mic
Power Supply	Fractal Ion+ 2 860W (Platinum) (This thing is God-tier. Silent and TINY)
Mouse	Logitech G Pro wireless + Steelseries Prisma XL
Keyboard	Razer Huntsman TE ( Sexy white keycaps)
VR HMD	Oculus Rift S + Quest 2
Software	Windows 11 pro x64 (Yes, it's genuinely a good OS) OpenRGB - ditch the branded bloatware!
Benchmark Scores	Nyooom.

System Name	Rainbow Sparkles (Power efficient, <350W gaming load)
Processor	Ryzen R7 5800x3D (Undervolted, 4.45GHz all core)
Motherboard	Asus x570-F (BIOS Modded)
Cooling	Alphacool Apex UV - Alphacool Eisblock XPX Aurora + EK Quantum ARGB 3090 w/ active backplate
Memory	2x32GB DDR4 3600 Corsair Vengeance RGB @3866 C18-22-22-22-42 TRFC704 (1.4V Hynix MJR - SoC 1.15V)
Video Card(s)	Galax RTX 3090 SG 24GB: Underclocked to 1700Mhz 0.750v (375W down to 250W))
Storage	2TB WD SN850 NVME + 1TB Sasmsung 970 Pro NVME + 1TB Intel 6000P NVME USB 3.2
Display(s)	Phillips 32 32M1N5800A (4k144), LG 32" (4K60) \| Gigabyte G32QC (2k165) \| Phillips 328m6fjrmb (2K144)
Case	Fractal Design R6
Audio Device(s)	Logitech G560 \| Corsair Void pro RGB \|Blue Yeti mic
Power Supply	Fractal Ion+ 2 860W (Platinum) (This thing is God-tier. Silent and TINY)
Mouse	Logitech G Pro wireless + Steelseries Prisma XL
Keyboard	Razer Huntsman TE ( Sexy white keycaps)
VR HMD	Oculus Rift S + Quest 2
Software	Windows 11 pro x64 (Yes, it's genuinely a good OS) OpenRGB - ditch the branded bloatware!
Benchmark Scores	Nyooom.

System Name	ab┃ob
Processor	7800X3D┃5800X3D
Motherboard	B650E PG-ITX┃X570 Impact
Cooling	NH-U12A + T30┃AXP120-x67
Memory	64GB 6400CL32┃32GB 3600CL14
Video Card(s)	RTX 4070 Ti Eagle┃RTX A2000
Storage	8TB of SSDs┃1TB SN550
Case	Caselabs S3┃Lazer3D HT5

System Name	Rainbow Sparkles (Power efficient, <350W gaming load)
Processor	Ryzen R7 5800x3D (Undervolted, 4.45GHz all core)
Motherboard	Asus x570-F (BIOS Modded)
Cooling	Alphacool Apex UV - Alphacool Eisblock XPX Aurora + EK Quantum ARGB 3090 w/ active backplate
Memory	2x32GB DDR4 3600 Corsair Vengeance RGB @3866 C18-22-22-22-42 TRFC704 (1.4V Hynix MJR - SoC 1.15V)
Video Card(s)	Galax RTX 3090 SG 24GB: Underclocked to 1700Mhz 0.750v (375W down to 250W))
Storage	2TB WD SN850 NVME + 1TB Sasmsung 970 Pro NVME + 1TB Intel 6000P NVME USB 3.2
Display(s)	Phillips 32 32M1N5800A (4k144), LG 32" (4K60) \| Gigabyte G32QC (2k165) \| Phillips 328m6fjrmb (2K144)
Case	Fractal Design R6
Audio Device(s)	Logitech G560 \| Corsair Void pro RGB \|Blue Yeti mic
Power Supply	Fractal Ion+ 2 860W (Platinum) (This thing is God-tier. Silent and TINY)
Mouse	Logitech G Pro wireless + Steelseries Prisma XL
Keyboard	Razer Huntsman TE ( Sexy white keycaps)
VR HMD	Oculus Rift S + Quest 2
Software	Windows 11 pro x64 (Yes, it's genuinely a good OS) OpenRGB - ditch the branded bloatware!
Benchmark Scores	Nyooom.

System Name	ab┃ob
Processor	7800X3D┃5800X3D
Motherboard	B650E PG-ITX┃X570 Impact
Cooling	NH-U12A + T30┃AXP120-x67
Memory	64GB 6400CL32┃32GB 3600CL14
Video Card(s)	RTX 4070 Ti Eagle┃RTX A2000
Storage	8TB of SSDs┃1TB SN550
Case	Caselabs S3┃Lazer3D HT5

Processor	AMD R7 5800X3D
Motherboard	Asus Crosshair VIII Dark Hero
Cooling	Thermalright Frozen Edge 360, 3x TL-B12 V2, 2x TL-B12 V1
Memory	2x8 G.Skill Trident Z Royal 3200C14, 2x8GB G.Skill Trident Z Black and White 3200 C14
Video Card(s)	Zotac 4070 Ti Trinity OC
Storage	WD SN850 1TB, SN850X 2TB, SN770 1TB
Display(s)	LG 50UP7100
Case	Fractal Torrent Compact
Audio Device(s)	JBL Bar 700
Power Supply	Seasonic Vertex GX-1000, Monster HDP1800
Mouse	Logitech G502 Hero
Keyboard	Logitech G213
VR HMD	Oculus 3
Software	Yes
Benchmark Scores	Yes

System Name	YautjaLord
Processor	Ryzen 9 5900x @ 3700MHz
Motherboard	Gigabyte X570 Aorus Xtreme rev. 1.1
Cooling	EK-XE360mm front/SE360mm top/3xVardar 120mm top/3xbe quiet! Light Wings 120mm High Speed PWM/etc....
Memory	HyperX Predator 4x8GB 4000MHz @ 4000MHz
Video Card(s)	1xGigabyte RTX 3080 Master 10GB rev. 3.0 (watercooled)
Storage	Samsung 980 Pro 1TB (system)/Samsung 960 Pro M.2 NVMe (system) \|Samsung T7 Shield 1TB USB Type-C
Display(s)	LG 27GN950-B 4k IPS 1ms 144Hz HDR
Case	be quiet! Dark Base Pro 900 rev. 2 Black/Orange
Audio Device(s)	Integrated
Power Supply	Corsair HX1200
Mouse	Dragonwar ELE-G4.1 laser gaming mouse 9500dpi
Keyboard	Corsair K60 Pro Low Profile
Software	Windows 10 Pro 64-bit 21H2

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Processor	AMD 5950x
Motherboard	MSI MAG B550 Tomahawk
Cooling	Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE
Memory	GSkil 64gb 3600 cl16
Video Card(s)	Power Color R7900xtx Hell Hound oh hell ya
Storage	2x wd sn770 2tb 1-4tb wd- hd 2x8tb wd hd actually 1 fire cuda
Display(s)	LG Ultra Gear 1440p 32" 165hz hdr monitor might go oled
Case	Corsair 4000D Air Flow
Power Supply	EVGA SuperNOVA 1000w G5 80+ Gold
Mouse	logitech and roccet wcord
Keyboard	logitech
Software	W10 forever

Processor	AMD Ryzen 5 5600X
Motherboard	Asus TUF Gaming B550-Plus
Cooling	Thermalright Frost Commander 140
Memory	2x16 3200@3733 Crucial Ballistix
Video Card(s)	Gigabyte RX 5600 XT WindForce OC 6G (GV-R56XTWF2OC)
Storage	Some
Display(s)	Acer XV280K
Case	Cooler Master HAF XB EVO
Power Supply	Cooler Master MWE 650 Bronze
Mouse	Logitech G502SE
Keyboard	Ajazz AK35i with AKKO CS Rose Red Switches and white YMDK PBT keys

Processor	AMD R7 1700X @ 4100Mhz
Motherboard	MSI B450M MORTAR MAX (MS-7B89)
Cooling	Phanteks PH-TC14PE
Memory	Crucial Technology 16GB DR (DDR4-3600) - C9BLM:045M:E BL16G36C16U4W.M16FE1 X2 @ CL14
Video Card(s)	XFX RX480 GTR 8GB @ 1408Mhz (AMD Auto OC)
Storage	Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB
Display(s)	Acer KG271 1080p @ 81Hz
Power Supply	SuperFlower Leadex II 750W 80+ Gold
Keyboard	Redragon Devarajas RGB
Software	Microsoft Windows 10 (10.0) Professional 64-bit
Benchmark Scores	https://valid.x86.fr/mvvj3a

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