Does anyone care about 10Gb LAN? (Poll)

[AugeK]

10 GBit ist about 1 GByte data rate.
Without a harddrive able to provide such a constant data rate your network would have to wait for your harddrive all the time, assuming all your home network (switches, cables, ..) is 10 GBit capable.
My personal conclusion: without a good SSD on your NAS and a network with 10GBit support this a waste of resources.

 

[TheLostSwede]

As the thread states, I am looking to see if people care if motherboards have 10Gb LAN.

I use it daily, as I have a 10 Gbps in my PC and my NAS.
Makes a huge difference.

 

[looniam]

indifferent cuz isp router only.

but i do got junk laying around . . .

 

[AlwaysHope]

10 GBit ist about 1 GByte data rate.
Without a harddrive able to provide such a constant data rate your network would have to wait for your harddrive all the time, assuming all your home network (switches, cables, ..) is 10 GBit capable.
My personal conclusion: without a good SSD on your NAS and a network with 10GBit support this a waste of resources.

Good point. But with PCIe 5.0 drives apparently being released later this year, that bottleneck will be overcome. Of course, its only for those who have the budget for them.

 

[defaultluser]

Its going to be another decade before I can replace all these 5400 rpm data disks with SSDs - until then, all my disk-to-disk transfers are all slower than gigabit.

I figure by the time I can justify that, the 2.5G ports will finally become standard. ( plenty enough speed bump on my existing Cat5e, for anything except reading from an SSD Nas, because buffer-emptied write speed off cheap ssd is likely lower than 300 MB/s.)

 

[ERazer]

I would assumed anybody looking at getting 10gb connection on their NAS has done some research how their NAS drive need to be setup either having SSD/NVME cache or RAID SSD or else as you mentioned is pointless

 

[Deleted member 177333]

Indifferent for now. My network at the house is 1GB currently and is nowhere close to being saturated even with multiple Plex streams, internet use, etc.

 

[TheLostSwede]

I would assumed anybody looking at getting 10gb connection on their NAS has done some research how their NAS drive need to be setup either having SSD/NVME cache or RAID SSD or else as you mentioned is pointless

Pointless you say? No SSD involved.

 

[ERazer]

Pointless you say? No SSD involved.

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Welp I take it back, guess depends how many spinning drives you have on your pool or even if your NAS running zfs

 

[TheLostSwede]

Welp I take it back, guess depends how many spinning drives you have on your pool or even if your NAS running zfs

That was just four drives in RAID-5.
Not using traditional RAID at the moment thought.

 

[niko084]

The lack of movement in network throughputs is absurd at this point.. My internet connection has a faster download than the LAN side of the modem is capable of, my WiFi is capable of higher speeds than most my LAN... 15 years ago when fast hard drives could run 80MB/s it wasn't as annoying. I'm not sure where / if design issues come into play or if it's been grossly ignored because it's not really a need for most.. I have no 10Gb+ connections for anything other than vhost/san connectivity, and switch stacking. -- Can't justify the costs for my own use yet, but it's past time we move from 1gb.

 

[The red spirit]

A must if you edit vid file on your NAS.

Radical idea, but why not just put that storage inside computer? Seems like complete no-brainer.

 

[ir_cow]

Radical idea, but why not just put that storage inside computer? Seems like complete no-brainer.

Depends on what your working with. For example a single RED 6K project I did was 2TB in size. If I want to work on my computer, it will need to be backed up anyways and any adjusts to my project must be saved each day. At that point, might as well work from the NAS which already has a redundancy.

 

[ERazer]

Radical idea, but why not just put that storage inside computer? Seems like complete no-brainer.

Radical not really, though my personal rig is very capable I feel more safe my work is backed up and I can access my file remotely if needed.

 

[The red spirit]

Depends on what your working with. For example a single RED 6K project I did was 2TB in size. If I want to work on my computer, it will need to be backed up anyways and any adjusts to my project must be saved each day. At that point, might as well work from the NAS which already has a redundancy.

Why not just use RAID on desktop? RAID 1 always "backs-up".

Radical not really, though my personal rig is very capable I feel more safe my work is backed up and I can access my file remotely if needed.

Wait. So you upload it via wifi from camera and then connect to NAS from computer with cable?

 

[ir_cow]

Why not just use RAID on desktop? RAID 1 always "backs-up".

Rule #1 - Never keep important data in one place. This goes for a NAS as well. But depending on your setup, the NAS might have a UPS and a larger redundancy making it a better choice to work from. Don't forget if you have more than one person working on a project its not ideal to live on someones personal computer.

 

[ERazer]

Why not just use RAID on desktop? RAID 1 always "backs-up".


Wait. So you upload it via wifi from camera and then connect to NAS from computer with cable?

My set-up: 10gb fiber to my NAS's (TrueNas vm thru Proxmox server) then 10gb to my unRaid for archiving. I can digest the media on my PC and directly transfer it to NAS folder or thru iSCSI drive from TrueNas, heck I can even fire up another VM with usb passthru and digest media that way.

 

[newtekie1]

Good point. But with PCIe 5.0 drives apparently being released later this year, that bottleneck will be overcome. Of course, its only for those who have the budget for them.

A PCI-E Gen3 NVMe SSD can hit these speeds, even the shitting ones even. In my case I have an NVMe SSD as a cache drive in my server, so I often see 10Gb throughput to and from my server to my desktops.

RAID 1 always "backs-up".

RAID1 never backs up.

 

[Solaris17]

Why not just use RAID on desktop? RAID 1 always "backs-up".

RAID is not a backup.

 

[caroline!]

My internet barely hits 1Mbps and I don't have a NAS so nope.

 

[AlwaysHope]

A PCI-E Gen3 NVMe SSD can hit these speeds, even the shitting ones even. In my case I have an NVMe SSD as a cache drive in my server, so I often see 10Gb throughput to and from my server to my desktops.


RAID1 never backs up.

No way in hell can Gen 3 Nvme SSDs hit Gen 5 speed throughput. That overflow of data above 3,500MB/s (PCIe 3.0 peak transfer speed) is stored in the system RAM until it can be written to a permanent storage device.

 

[Dr. Dro]

No way in hell can Gen 3 Nvme SSDs hit Gen 5 speed throughput. That overflow of data above 3,500MB/s (PCIe 3.0 peak transfer speed) is stored in the system RAM until it can be written to a permanent storage device.

I believe they meant that 3500 MB/s turns out to be around 28 Gbps of bandwidth, so even lower end Gen 3 drives should be able to saturate a 10GbE uplink (1250 MB/s)

 

[Ruru]

Nah, 1Gbit is enough (at least for now) for me and my Internet connection is also just 100Mbit. I may change my mind if I put a server to the corner.

 

[GreiverBlade]

voted no, just like Nexus mods premium subscription is useless to me since the capped non premium max speed is literally my connection max speed (~30Mbits), i would see zero improvement, plus my mobo has a 1Gb/2.5Gb (2.5Gb is overkill then ) if i used a NAS/server maybe ... although 2.5Gb would be enough.

Nah, 1Gbit is enough (at least for now) for me and my Internet connection is also just 100Mbit. I may change my mind if I put a server to the corner.

ah well ... i am not alone

 

[silentbogo]

10G network has been on my bucket list for awhile, though I have a small server rack at home. Already got some cheap SFP+ adapters, just need to save up some cash on a semi-decent switch.
I was eyeing something like a Mikrotik CSS610-8G-2S+IN: by far the cheapest, has two SFP+ ports for my PC and NAS, and 10x 1GbE ports for other devices, which means it can replace my Edgerouter 10X in the rack. CS305-1G-4S+ is another good option, but nearly twice as expensive.
Consumer 10gig ethernet is still wa-a-a-ay out of my pocket's reach.