TPU's Nostalgic Hardware Club

[Greenslade]

Try making an USB version with Rufus.



I do agree with the durability though.

If it does not work with a disc why would it work with Rufus? i could try with Easy2boot.

 

[RyzenMaster.sys]

I use an IDE to M.2 SATA adapter but I've found it really does not like to work with a lot of the systems I've tried. I've only had 4 systems that work with it, and 3/4 of them are new enough to have SATA ports on board as well as ide.

Some systems hang on startup, since they see a drive but don't know what to do with it and throw a disk error. Some see the drive and don't throw an error, but otherwise can't boot to it properly.

This might just be the case with that adapter that the system doesn't know what to do with it.

 

[Mr.Scott]

These are burned discs all have workred befote on SSDs.I am tryIng to get XP on my oiher PC on the drIve i hope will work on the Retro PC.I will see if it works here.If it installs on the Dell i will know if ir os a problem with the Retro PC.It is not off to a good start.

The drive with the Adapter keeps on falling to get XP on the drive .The first disc came up with a message saying there was an errer in the disc.The Second Disc i tried stoped at exactly the same point the two times i tried it.
609 was the first time 611 second time i tried it.The third disc i tried after saying getting things ready went to the blue screen message.I am now trying the third DISC on my Dell PC to find out if it is the something on the Retro PC that is the problem.It has gone past the the point of the two photos below as it is the same disc. So it is someone to do the Retro PC. I don,t know how that can be resolved..any ideas?
I doubt if the disc will work in the other PC anyway. Everything is so bloody slow on the Retro PC ,it is like watching paint dry. This particular one os the Integral Edition this one takes a fair bit of time on here.I have put it in the Retro PC and got the error below.How do i run CHEKDISK on the Retro PC? It did a cheak on the DELL everything is fine on there,Put the drive back in the Retro PC it comes up with the same message as below.

That error is the drive not seeing the correct format. Sata or AHCI driver missing usually. Set to IDE in bios and try again. Adapter might be screwing you. To be honest, I never have any of the problems you are having. Running out of guesses.

 

[Greenslade]

I use an IDE to M.2 SATA adapter but I've found it really does not like to work with a lot of the systems I've tried. I've only had 4 systems that work with it, and 3/4 of them are new enough to have SATA ports on board as well as ide.

Some systems hang on startup, since they see a drive but don't know what to do with it and throw a disk error. Some see the drive and don't throw an error, but otherwise can't boot to it properly.

This might just be the case with that adapter that the system doesn't know what to do with it.

Thanks for that any idea how to get it to get XP on it or will i only be able to use it as a Slave?That beats the whole object of me buying it.I only got it last week so i can return it by 21 July og o can,t get a os on it.If i had known there woyld be all these problems with it i would never have bought it in the first place. And just gone for a CF card with the card on one of the PCI slots.

That error is the drive not seeing the correct format. Sata or AHCI driver missing usually. Set to IDE in bios and try again. Adapter might be screwing you. To be honest, I never have any of the problems you are having. Running out of guesses.

Thanks Scotty i am one of thouse people who never seem to get it right.

 

[Mr.Scott]

Thanks Scotty i am one of thouse people who never seem to get it right.

You will eventually. There is a learning curve.

 

[68Olds]

Greenslade, are you doing a clean install? By that I mean are you deleting all partitions on the HDD with the WinXP install disk, then creating a new partition, then formatting before you start the windows install.

Go to 3:50

 

[Greenslade]

Greenslade, are you doing a clean install? By that I mean are you deleting all partitions on the HDD with the WinXP install disk, then creating a new partition, then formatting before you start the windows install.

Go to 3:50

Thanks for that, i will give it a try later on i have been trying this for to long i want a break from it. I just do the basic stuff to install. Normally . I just format in the Dell.something else about the drive the PC came with ,i tried to put MYPALon the drive it said something about Athlon 2400. not supporting it?That is my go to browser on XP.
What browser can i use on there?

 

[68Olds]

I delete the partition(s) on every new install. There can be stuff left behind causing problems when you just do a re-install over an old Windows.

But yeah, it can get frustrating. Step away, take a breath, come back relaxed.

 

[Greenslade]

I delete the partition(s) on every new install. There can be stuff left behind causing problems when you just do a re-install over an old Windows.

But yeah, it can get frustrating. Step away, take a breath, come back relaxed.

Yes i will it is all driving me nuts.

 

[bobbybluz]

That error is the drive not seeing the correct format. Sata or AHCI driver missing usually. Set to IDE in bios and try again. Adapter might be screwing you. To be honest, I never have any of the problems you are having. Running out of guesses.

I've done countless hundreds of XP installs and have never seen what that guy is going through. There'd always be that lag when the install (or dirty repair) reached 34% left but when 33% showed up you knew it was going to work. I do recall having to install drivers from floppys at the beginning of the install for some mobos though. I've never seen a XP install fail at the final end of the process. If OP lived within 50 miles of me I'd go build the PC for him.

 

[68Olds]

Bobby, Greenslade has a SATA HDD with an IDE to SATA adapter & an IDE only mobo. The SATA HDD seems to have an existing install of WinXP which was installed as a SATA HDD install. I'm guessing very few of us have ever tried doing such an install (I know I've never done that). Yes, I remember F6 to insert the floppy to load the SATA drivers. Things really are easier with newer hardware IMO, but it is still fun going back & reliving the pains we went through. I just installed WinME on an old Athlon XP 1700+, that was entertaining & a giant pita. lol

 

[lexluthermiester]

To be honest, I don't miss IDE stuff at all.. those cables and molex power connectors... nah, those suck.

They really did.

Sata connectors have a zillion pins for no apparent reason

No, they have a reason. A variety of voltages. It was a very good idea at the time they designed it.

Molex is simple, just 4 large pins, plus it's super durable.

True!

It just can be a pain to connect sometimes.

Also true!

Try making an USB version with Rufus.

That doesn't work with XP. XP never had USB installer support. So while an XP ISO can be written to a USB drive and XP install will actually start up, it gets stuck part way through with no option to recover.

i could try with Easy2boot.

For USB drives that would be your only option

 

[Trekkie4]

I forgot ... how many LEDs do you need for a computer case? 5, 6, 10?

 

[lexluthermiester]

I forgot ... how many LEDs do you need for a computer case? 5, 6, 10?

The correct answer is: As many as it takes.

 

[Trekkie4]

The correct answer is: As many as it takes.

Yup! Each group is consisted of two LEDs, and there are 3 groups in total. One for "Power", one for "HDD activity" and one for "Turbo". Therefore 3x 2, 6 LEDs in total

 

[Mr.Scott]

I delete the partition(s) on every new install. There can be stuff left behind causing problems when you just do a re-install over an old Windows.

Exactly why I suggested DBAN that drive.

 

[GreiverBlade]

i guess i can put them here too (not the DDR3 and the i7-3770 )

The correct answer is: As many as it takes.

no the correct answer is: "YES!!!"

example:
tech guy at the brick'n mortar computer shop: "how many led do you need in your computer?"
me, grinning like a madman: "YES!!!"

 

[Audioave10]

This guy always finds the most unusual hardware (RETRO Hardware on YOUtube)

 

[GreiverBlade]

This guy always finds the most unusual hardware (RETRO Hardware on Utube)

ooohhhh i remember that one ... i also remember wanting one

that youtuber has a Titan Golden Orb as profile picture ,,,, I LIKE IT! (i have a Chrome Orb, socket A in my collection )

 

[ExcuseMeWtf]

RGHD showed similar one a while ago, my buddy used to have it too:

I remember I instead went for Zalman flower design in those Athlon XP days

This one:

ZALMAN CNPS7000C-Cu 2 Ball CPU Cooler - Newegg.com

Buy ZALMAN CNPS7000C-Cu 2 Ball CPU Cooler with fast shipping and top-rated customer service. Once you know, you Newegg!

www.newegg.com

 

[Trekkie4]

I used to have a brand new, never used before Jet 7 "Jet Engine" CPU cooler ... and let me tell you, that thing was terrible. Despite all the marketing claims (of performing better than a traditional fan, with the "blind spot" in the middle, right under the motor) this thing was about the same as better fan only much, MUCH louder.


I guess you could argue & say how back then CPU coolers used to have smaller (and much faster) fans than nowdays, so if you put it that way, I guess Jet 7 was indeed better. That said, everything else is just eye candy and nothing else. I had to keep it at low speed all the time (about 1/3) because I couldn't stand that high pitch "plastic" whine, coming from inside the case.

 

[GreiverBlade]

I used to have a brand new, never used before Jet 7 "Jet Engine" CPU cooler ... and let me tell you, that thing was terrible. Despite all the marketing claims (of performing better than a traditional fan, with the "blind spot" in the middle, right under the motor) this thing was about the same as better fan only much, MUCH louder.


I guess you could argue & say how back then CPU coolers used to have smaller (and much faster) fans than nowdays, so if you put it that way, I guess Jet 7 was indeed better. That said, everything else is just eye candy and nothing else. I had to keep it at low speed all the time (about 1/3) because I couldn't stand that high pitch "plastic" whine, coming from inside the case.

performances? naaaaahhhh at the time it was all about the look ahahahahah!

eh? no? ... okay... *dejected* ...

luckily i did listen and learn in the way to today

 

[bobbybluz]

Bobby, Greenslade has a SATA HDD with an IDE to SATA adapter & an IDE only mobo. The SATA HDD seems to have an existing install of WinXP which was installed as a SATA HDD install. I'm guessing very few of us have ever tried doing such an install (I know I've never done that). Yes, I remember F6 to insert the floppy to load the SATA drivers. Things really are easier with newer hardware IMO, but it is still fun going back & reliving the pains we went through. I just installed WinME on an old Athlon XP 1700+, that was entertaining & a giant pita. lol

Back in my post #14,634 I showed my oldest still fully functional rig. My sister has a close twin of it I built at the same time for her but it's in a Sky Hawk aluminum Eagle case with the removable motherboard tray (mine was originally in one of those as well) that's been sitting unused in a closet since around 2004 after her daughter trashed the monitor. I can have it back for free but only if I go pick it up in Colorado (I'm in Wisconsin). I eventually will sometime later this year then when I get it back home put ME on it for giggles. Fortunately I still have the driver disc with the Silicon Image SATA drivers on it that came with the Asus A7N8X mobo.
Sometimes I wonder how much combined time I spent watching the install screen progress in 98, 98SE, 2000, ME and XP. It has to be a few months at the very least.

 

[Greenslade]

I've done countless hundreds of XP installs and have never seen what that guy is going through. There'd always be that lag when the install (or dirty repair) reached 34% left but when 33% showed up you knew it was going to work. I do recall having to install drivers from floppys at the beginning of the install for some mobos though. I've never seen a XP install fail at the final end of the process. If OP lived within 50 miles of me I'd go build the PC for him.

Thanks for that Bobby Shame you so far away from the UK. Is that your cat in the picture he looks cuteThere does not seem to be many Brits on this forum.
Mind you if there was they would not offer to send me anything anyway, not that i would expect anyone to anyway.

 

[68Olds]

Back in my post #14,634 I showed my oldest still fully functional rig. My sister has a close twin of it I built at the same time for her but it's in a Sky Hawk aluminum Eagle case with the removable motherboard tray (mine was originally in one of those as well) that's been sitting unused in a closet since around 2004 after her daughter trashed the monitor. I can have it back for free but only if I go pick it up in Colorado (I'm in Wisconsin). I eventually will sometime later this year then when I get it back home put ME on it for giggles. Fortunately I still have the driver disc with the Silicon Image SATA drivers on it that came with the Asus A7N8X mobo.
Sometimes I wonder how much combined time I spent watching the install screen progress in 98, 98SE, 2000, ME and XP. It has to be a few months at the very least.

That comment really made me laugh. So true for many of us. My 98SE was an upgrade version, so I had to install it twice for each install.
I came to a crossroads in 03/04 between Intel & AMD. The Asus A7N8X-e Deluxe was one direction & Abit IC7-g MaxII was the other. I decided to save a few bucks & went Intel. Long story, but it ended up costing me a lot more. lol