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If it does not work with a disc why would it work with Rufus?Try making an USB version with Rufus.
I do agree with the durability though.
If it does not work with a disc why would it work with Rufus?Try making an USB version with Rufus.
I do agree with the durability though.
Processor | AMD Ryzen 5 3600 |
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Motherboard | AsRock B550M Pro4 |
Cooling | Arctic Freezer 34 Esports |
Memory | 32GB (4x8gb) Hynix 3466mhz CL17 (2x8 Team Dark Z DDR4-4000 CL18 + 2x8 Vcolor Prism DDR4-3466 CL17) |
Video Card(s) | EVGA GTX 1660 Super 6gb |
Storage | Sabrent Rocket Q 1tb NVME + 500gb Samsung HDD |
Display(s) | Triple monitor setup w/ Viewsonic 1080p 144hz main + 2 Dell Ultrasharps |
Case | DeepCool Matrexx 55 w/ 3x Arctic F14 PWM + 3X Arctic F12 PWM |
Audio Device(s) | Logitech X530 5.1 Spearkers + Beyer Dynamic DT770 PRO's driven by a Creative Labs Sound Blaster Z |
Power Supply | Corsair HX750i 80+ Platinum |
Mouse | Logitech G502 |
Keyboard | Leopold FC750R Cherry MX Brown |
Software | Microsoft Windows 10 Professional x64 |
System Name | Master |
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Processor | Pair of Xeon X5675's @ 4.3 |
Motherboard | SR-2 Classified |
Memory | 12 GB of Corsair Dominator GT's @ 2000 7-7-7-21 |
Video Card(s) | EVGA GTX680 |
Power Supply | EVGA Supernova 750 |
That error is the drive not seeing the correct format. Sata or AHCI driver missing usually. Set to IDE in bios and try again. Adapter might be screwing you. To be honest, I never have any of the problems you are having. Running out of guesses.These are burned discs all have workred befote on SSDs.I am tryIng to get XP on my oiher PC on the drIve i hope will work on the Retro PC.I will see if it works here.If it installs on the Dell i will know if ir os a problem with the Retro PC.It is not off to a good start.
The drive with the Adapter keeps on falling to get XP on the drive .The first disc came up with a message saying there was an errer in the disc.The Second Disc i tried stoped at exactly the same point the two times i tried it.
609 was the first time 611 second time i tried it.The third disc i tried after saying getting things ready went to the blue screen message.I am now trying the third DISC on my Dell PC to find out if it is the something on the Retro PC that is the problem.It has gone past the the point of the two photos below as it is the same disc. So it is someone to do the Retro PC.I don,t know how that can be resolved..any ideas?
I doubt if the disc will work in the other PC anyway. Everything is so bloody slow on the Retro PC ,it is like watching paint dry.This particular one os the Integral Edition this one takes a fair bit of time on here.I have put it in the Retro PC and got the error below.How do i run CHEKDISK on the Retro PC?
It did a cheak on the DELL everything is fine on there,Put the drive back in the Retro PC it comes up with the same message as below.
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Thanks for that any idea how to get it to get XP on it or will i only be able to use it as a Slave?That beats the whole object of me buying it.I only got it last week so i can return it by 21 July og o can,t get a os on it.If i had known there woyld be all these problems with it i would never have bought it in the first place.I use an IDE to M.2 SATA adapter but I've found it really does not like to work with a lot of the systems I've tried. I've only had 4 systems that work with it, and 3/4 of them are new enough to have SATA ports on board as well as ide.
Some systems hang on startup, since they see a drive but don't know what to do with it and throw a disk error. Some see the drive and don't throw an error, but otherwise can't boot to it properly.
This might just be the case with that adapter that the system doesn't know what to do with it.
Thanks ScottyThat error is the drive not seeing the correct format. Sata or AHCI driver missing usually. Set to IDE in bios and try again. Adapter might be screwing you. To be honest, I never have any of the problems you are having. Running out of guesses.
System Name | Master |
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Processor | Pair of Xeon X5675's @ 4.3 |
Motherboard | SR-2 Classified |
Memory | 12 GB of Corsair Dominator GT's @ 2000 7-7-7-21 |
Video Card(s) | EVGA GTX680 |
Power Supply | EVGA Supernova 750 |
You will eventually. There is a learning curve.Thanks Scottyi am one of thouse people who never seem to get it right.
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System Name | Gamer |
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Processor | Ryzen 7 5800X3D |
Motherboard | Gigabyte X570 Aorus Elite WIFI |
Cooling | Apogee XL, MCR360, MCP655, Micro-rez |
Memory | 2x16GB G.Skill DDR4-3600 CL16 |
Video Card(s) | Red Dragon RX 6800 XT |
Storage | WD SN850 1TB & SN750 1TB |
Display(s) | LG 32GK650F-B 32" 1440p 144Hz |
Case | Rocketfish (Lian Li) e-ATX |
Audio Device(s) | Harman Kardon HK695 2.1 |
Power Supply | Seasonic Focus GM-750 |
Mouse | HP Gaming wired |
Keyboard | Logitech G110 wired |
VR HMD | HP WMR 1440^2 |
Software | Win10 Pro 64bit |
Thanks for that,Greenslade, are you doing a clean install? By that I mean are you deleting all partitions on the HDD with the WinXP install disk, then creating a new partition, then formatting before you start the windows install.
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System Name | Gamer |
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Processor | Ryzen 7 5800X3D |
Motherboard | Gigabyte X570 Aorus Elite WIFI |
Cooling | Apogee XL, MCR360, MCP655, Micro-rez |
Memory | 2x16GB G.Skill DDR4-3600 CL16 |
Video Card(s) | Red Dragon RX 6800 XT |
Storage | WD SN850 1TB & SN750 1TB |
Display(s) | LG 32GK650F-B 32" 1440p 144Hz |
Case | Rocketfish (Lian Li) e-ATX |
Audio Device(s) | Harman Kardon HK695 2.1 |
Power Supply | Seasonic Focus GM-750 |
Mouse | HP Gaming wired |
Keyboard | Logitech G110 wired |
VR HMD | HP WMR 1440^2 |
Software | Win10 Pro 64bit |
Yes i will it is all driving me nuts.I delete the partition(s) on every new install. There can be stuff left behind causing problems when you just do a re-install over an old Windows.
But yeah, it can get frustrating. Step away, take a breath, come back relaxed.
System Name | "The black one in the dining room" / "The Latest One" |
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Processor | Intel Xeon E5 2683 V4 16c/32t / i7 14700K @5.8GHz |
Motherboard | Asus X99 Deluxe / ASRock Z790 Steel Legend WiFi |
Cooling | Arctic Liquid Freezer II 240 w/4 Silverstone FM121 fans / Arctic LF II 280 w Silverstone FHP141's |
Memory | 64GB G.Skill Ripjaws V DDR4 2400 (8x8) / 96GB G.Skill Trident Z5 DDR5 6400 |
Video Card(s) | EVGA RTX 1080 Ti FTW3 / Asus Tuff OC 4090 24GB |
Storage | Samsung 970 Evo Plus, 1TB Samsung 860, 4 Western Digital 2TB / 1tb, SK hynix P41 Platinum 2tb |
Display(s) | 43" Samsung 8000 series 4K / 50" Vizio M-series 4K |
Case | Modded Corsair Carbide 500R / Modded Corsair Graphite 780 T |
Audio Device(s) | Asus Xonar Essence STX II/ Asus Xonar Essence STX |
Power Supply | Corsair AX1200i / Seasonic Prime GX-1300 |
Mouse | Logitech Performance MX, Microsoft Intellimouse Optical 3.0 |
Keyboard | Logitech K750 Solar, Logitech K800 |
Software | Win 10 Enterprise LTSC 2021 IoT / Win 11 Enterprise IoT LTSC |
Benchmark Scores | https://www.passmark.com/baselines/V11/display.php?id=202122048229 |
I've done countless hundreds of XP installs and have never seen what that guy is going through. There'd always be that lag when the install (or dirty repair) reached 34% left but when 33% showed up you knew it was going to work. I do recall having to install drivers from floppys at the beginning of the install for some mobos though. I've never seen a XP install fail at the final end of the process. If OP lived within 50 miles of me I'd go build the PC for him.That error is the drive not seeing the correct format. Sata or AHCI driver missing usually. Set to IDE in bios and try again. Adapter might be screwing you. To be honest, I never have any of the problems you are having. Running out of guesses.
System Name | Gamer |
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Processor | Ryzen 7 5800X3D |
Motherboard | Gigabyte X570 Aorus Elite WIFI |
Cooling | Apogee XL, MCR360, MCP655, Micro-rez |
Memory | 2x16GB G.Skill DDR4-3600 CL16 |
Video Card(s) | Red Dragon RX 6800 XT |
Storage | WD SN850 1TB & SN750 1TB |
Display(s) | LG 32GK650F-B 32" 1440p 144Hz |
Case | Rocketfish (Lian Li) e-ATX |
Audio Device(s) | Harman Kardon HK695 2.1 |
Power Supply | Seasonic Focus GM-750 |
Mouse | HP Gaming wired |
Keyboard | Logitech G110 wired |
VR HMD | HP WMR 1440^2 |
Software | Win10 Pro 64bit |
They really did.To be honest, I don't miss IDE stuff at all.. those cables and molex power connectors... nah, those suck.![]()
No, they have a reason. A variety of voltages. It was a very good idea at the time they designed it.Sata connectors have a zillion pins for no apparent reason
True!Molex is simple, just 4 large pins, plus it's super durable.
Also true!It just can be a pain to connect sometimes.
That doesn't work with XP. XP never had USB installer support. So while an XP ISO can be written to a USB drive and XP install will actually start up, it gets stuck part way through with no option to recover.Try making an USB version with Rufus.
For USB drives that would be your only optioni could try with Easy2boot.
System Name | Adison "Open Space" 19 |
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Processor | Intel Pentium II, 350MHz |
Motherboard | Chaintech 6BTM, Slot 1 |
Cooling | SECC Cartridge |
Memory | 1x 64MB, PC100 |
Video Card(s) | ATI Rage IIc AGP, Diamond Monster 3DII 12MB |
Storage | BTC BCD-40XH, Quantum Fireball 3.5 Series, EX6.4 GB |
Display(s) | LG StudioWorks 57M |
Case | Adison Midi Tower, ATX |
Audio Device(s) | Creative SoundBlaster 128 |
Power Supply | Codegen 300W |
Mouse | Genius SlimStar 110, PS/2 |
Keyboard | Genius SlimStar 110, PS/2 |
Software | Microsoft Windows 98 |
The correct answer is: As many as it takes.
System Name | Adison "Open Space" 19 |
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Processor | Intel Pentium II, 350MHz |
Motherboard | Chaintech 6BTM, Slot 1 |
Cooling | SECC Cartridge |
Memory | 1x 64MB, PC100 |
Video Card(s) | ATI Rage IIc AGP, Diamond Monster 3DII 12MB |
Storage | BTC BCD-40XH, Quantum Fireball 3.5 Series, EX6.4 GB |
Display(s) | LG StudioWorks 57M |
Case | Adison Midi Tower, ATX |
Audio Device(s) | Creative SoundBlaster 128 |
Power Supply | Codegen 300W |
Mouse | Genius SlimStar 110, PS/2 |
Keyboard | Genius SlimStar 110, PS/2 |
Software | Microsoft Windows 98 |
Yup! Each group is consisted of two LEDs, and there are 3 groups in total. One for "Power", one for "HDD activity" and one for "Turbo". Therefore 3x 2, 6 LEDs in totalThe correct answer is: As many as it takes.
System Name | Master |
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Processor | Pair of Xeon X5675's @ 4.3 |
Motherboard | SR-2 Classified |
Memory | 12 GB of Corsair Dominator GT's @ 2000 7-7-7-21 |
Video Card(s) | EVGA GTX680 |
Power Supply | EVGA Supernova 750 |
Exactly why I suggested DBAN that drive.I delete the partition(s) on every new install. There can be stuff left behind causing problems when you just do a re-install over an old Windows.
System Name | main/SFFHTPCARGH!(tm)/Xiaomi Mi TV Stick/Samsung Galaxy S23/Ally |
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Processor | Ryzen 7 5800X3D/i7-3770/S905X/Snapdragon 8 Gen 2/Ryzen Z1 Extreme |
Motherboard | MSI MAG B550 Tomahawk/HP SFF Q77 Express/uh?/uh?/Asus |
Cooling | Enermax ETS-T50 Axe aRGB /basic HP HSF /errr.../oh! liqui..wait, no:sizable vapor chamber/a nice one |
Memory | 64gb Corsair Vengeance Pro 3600mhz DDR4/8gb DDR3 1600/2gb LPDDR3/8gb LPDDR5x 4200/16gb LPDDR5 |
Video Card(s) | Hellhound Spectral White RX 7900 XTX 24gb/GT 730/Mali 450MP5/Adreno 740/RDNA3 768 core |
Storage | 250gb870EVO/500gb860EVO/2tbSandisk/NVMe2tb+1tb/4tbextreme V2/1TB Arion/500gb/8gb/256gb/2tb SN770M |
Display(s) | X58222 32" 2880x1620/32"FHDTV/273E3LHSB 27" 1920x1080/6.67"/AMOLED 2X panel FHD+120hz/FHD 120hz |
Case | Cougar Panzer Max/Elite 8300 SFF/None/back/back-front Gorilla Glass Victus 2+ UAG Monarch Carbon |
Audio Device(s) | Logi Z333/SB Audigy RX/HDMI/HDMI/Dolby Atmos/KZ x HBB PR2/Moondrop Chu II + TRN BT20S |
Power Supply | Chieftec Proton BDF-1000C /HP 240w/12v 1.5A/4Smart Voltplug PD 30W/Asus USB-C 65W |
Mouse | Speedlink Sovos Vertical-Asus ROG Spatha-Logi Ergo M575/Xiaomi XMRM-006/touch/touch |
Keyboard | Endorfy Thock 75% <3/none/touch/virtual |
VR HMD | Medion Erazer |
Software | Win10 64/Win8.1 64/Android TV 8.1/Android 13/Win11 64 |
Benchmark Scores | bench...mark? i do leave mark on bench sometime, to remember which one is the most comfortable. :o |
System Name | Main W10 |
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Processor | i7 2700K |
Motherboard | Gig Z77 HD4 |
Cooling | Xigmatech Tower Cooler |
Memory | 16 GB G-Skill 1600Mhz |
Video Card(s) | ASUS GTX 1080ti 11GB |
Storage | WD Gold 2 TB HD |
Display(s) | Acer 27" 1440P |
Case | Phanteks Enthoo Pro |
Audio Device(s) | JDS Labs Element DAC/AMP |
Power Supply | Rosewill Hive 650 watt |
Mouse | MX 518 |
Keyboard | Cherry 3000 with Blues |
System Name | main/SFFHTPCARGH!(tm)/Xiaomi Mi TV Stick/Samsung Galaxy S23/Ally |
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Processor | Ryzen 7 5800X3D/i7-3770/S905X/Snapdragon 8 Gen 2/Ryzen Z1 Extreme |
Motherboard | MSI MAG B550 Tomahawk/HP SFF Q77 Express/uh?/uh?/Asus |
Cooling | Enermax ETS-T50 Axe aRGB /basic HP HSF /errr.../oh! liqui..wait, no:sizable vapor chamber/a nice one |
Memory | 64gb Corsair Vengeance Pro 3600mhz DDR4/8gb DDR3 1600/2gb LPDDR3/8gb LPDDR5x 4200/16gb LPDDR5 |
Video Card(s) | Hellhound Spectral White RX 7900 XTX 24gb/GT 730/Mali 450MP5/Adreno 740/RDNA3 768 core |
Storage | 250gb870EVO/500gb860EVO/2tbSandisk/NVMe2tb+1tb/4tbextreme V2/1TB Arion/500gb/8gb/256gb/2tb SN770M |
Display(s) | X58222 32" 2880x1620/32"FHDTV/273E3LHSB 27" 1920x1080/6.67"/AMOLED 2X panel FHD+120hz/FHD 120hz |
Case | Cougar Panzer Max/Elite 8300 SFF/None/back/back-front Gorilla Glass Victus 2+ UAG Monarch Carbon |
Audio Device(s) | Logi Z333/SB Audigy RX/HDMI/HDMI/Dolby Atmos/KZ x HBB PR2/Moondrop Chu II + TRN BT20S |
Power Supply | Chieftec Proton BDF-1000C /HP 240w/12v 1.5A/4Smart Voltplug PD 30W/Asus USB-C 65W |
Mouse | Speedlink Sovos Vertical-Asus ROG Spatha-Logi Ergo M575/Xiaomi XMRM-006/touch/touch |
Keyboard | Endorfy Thock 75% <3/none/touch/virtual |
VR HMD | Medion Erazer |
Software | Win10 64/Win8.1 64/Android TV 8.1/Android 13/Win11 64 |
Benchmark Scores | bench...mark? i do leave mark on bench sometime, to remember which one is the most comfortable. :o |
ooohhhh i remember that one ... i also remember wanting one
System Name | Adison "Open Space" 19 |
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Processor | Intel Pentium II, 350MHz |
Motherboard | Chaintech 6BTM, Slot 1 |
Cooling | SECC Cartridge |
Memory | 1x 64MB, PC100 |
Video Card(s) | ATI Rage IIc AGP, Diamond Monster 3DII 12MB |
Storage | BTC BCD-40XH, Quantum Fireball 3.5 Series, EX6.4 GB |
Display(s) | LG StudioWorks 57M |
Case | Adison Midi Tower, ATX |
Audio Device(s) | Creative SoundBlaster 128 |
Power Supply | Codegen 300W |
Mouse | Genius SlimStar 110, PS/2 |
Keyboard | Genius SlimStar 110, PS/2 |
Software | Microsoft Windows 98 |
System Name | main/SFFHTPCARGH!(tm)/Xiaomi Mi TV Stick/Samsung Galaxy S23/Ally |
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Processor | Ryzen 7 5800X3D/i7-3770/S905X/Snapdragon 8 Gen 2/Ryzen Z1 Extreme |
Motherboard | MSI MAG B550 Tomahawk/HP SFF Q77 Express/uh?/uh?/Asus |
Cooling | Enermax ETS-T50 Axe aRGB /basic HP HSF /errr.../oh! liqui..wait, no:sizable vapor chamber/a nice one |
Memory | 64gb Corsair Vengeance Pro 3600mhz DDR4/8gb DDR3 1600/2gb LPDDR3/8gb LPDDR5x 4200/16gb LPDDR5 |
Video Card(s) | Hellhound Spectral White RX 7900 XTX 24gb/GT 730/Mali 450MP5/Adreno 740/RDNA3 768 core |
Storage | 250gb870EVO/500gb860EVO/2tbSandisk/NVMe2tb+1tb/4tbextreme V2/1TB Arion/500gb/8gb/256gb/2tb SN770M |
Display(s) | X58222 32" 2880x1620/32"FHDTV/273E3LHSB 27" 1920x1080/6.67"/AMOLED 2X panel FHD+120hz/FHD 120hz |
Case | Cougar Panzer Max/Elite 8300 SFF/None/back/back-front Gorilla Glass Victus 2+ UAG Monarch Carbon |
Audio Device(s) | Logi Z333/SB Audigy RX/HDMI/HDMI/Dolby Atmos/KZ x HBB PR2/Moondrop Chu II + TRN BT20S |
Power Supply | Chieftec Proton BDF-1000C /HP 240w/12v 1.5A/4Smart Voltplug PD 30W/Asus USB-C 65W |
Mouse | Speedlink Sovos Vertical-Asus ROG Spatha-Logi Ergo M575/Xiaomi XMRM-006/touch/touch |
Keyboard | Endorfy Thock 75% <3/none/touch/virtual |
VR HMD | Medion Erazer |
Software | Win10 64/Win8.1 64/Android TV 8.1/Android 13/Win11 64 |
Benchmark Scores | bench...mark? i do leave mark on bench sometime, to remember which one is the most comfortable. :o |
performances? naaaaahhhh at the time it was all about the look ahahahahah!I used to have a brand new, never used before Jet 7 "Jet Engine" CPU cooler ... and let me tell you, that thing was terrible. Despite all the marketing claims (of performing better than a traditional fan, with the "blind spot" in the middle, right under the motor) this thing was about the same as better fan only much, MUCH louder.
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I guess you could argue & say how back then CPU coolers used to have smaller (and much faster) fans than nowdays, so if you put it that way, I guess Jet 7 was indeed better. That said, everything else is just eye candy and nothing else. I had to keep it at low speed all the time (about 1/3) because I couldn't stand that high pitch "plastic" whine, coming from inside the case.
System Name | "The black one in the dining room" / "The Latest One" |
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Processor | Intel Xeon E5 2683 V4 16c/32t / i7 14700K @5.8GHz |
Motherboard | Asus X99 Deluxe / ASRock Z790 Steel Legend WiFi |
Cooling | Arctic Liquid Freezer II 240 w/4 Silverstone FM121 fans / Arctic LF II 280 w Silverstone FHP141's |
Memory | 64GB G.Skill Ripjaws V DDR4 2400 (8x8) / 96GB G.Skill Trident Z5 DDR5 6400 |
Video Card(s) | EVGA RTX 1080 Ti FTW3 / Asus Tuff OC 4090 24GB |
Storage | Samsung 970 Evo Plus, 1TB Samsung 860, 4 Western Digital 2TB / 1tb, SK hynix P41 Platinum 2tb |
Display(s) | 43" Samsung 8000 series 4K / 50" Vizio M-series 4K |
Case | Modded Corsair Carbide 500R / Modded Corsair Graphite 780 T |
Audio Device(s) | Asus Xonar Essence STX II/ Asus Xonar Essence STX |
Power Supply | Corsair AX1200i / Seasonic Prime GX-1300 |
Mouse | Logitech Performance MX, Microsoft Intellimouse Optical 3.0 |
Keyboard | Logitech K750 Solar, Logitech K800 |
Software | Win 10 Enterprise LTSC 2021 IoT / Win 11 Enterprise IoT LTSC |
Benchmark Scores | https://www.passmark.com/baselines/V11/display.php?id=202122048229 |
Back in my post #14,634 I showed my oldest still fully functional rig. My sister has a close twin of it I built at the same time for her but it's in a Sky Hawk aluminum Eagle case with the removable motherboard tray (mine was originally in one of those as well) that's been sitting unused in a closet since around 2004 after her daughter trashed the monitor. I can have it back for free but only if I go pick it up in Colorado (I'm in Wisconsin). I eventually will sometime later this year then when I get it back home put ME on it for giggles. Fortunately I still have the driver disc with the Silicon Image SATA drivers on it that came with the Asus A7N8X mobo.Bobby, Greenslade has a SATA HDD with an IDE to SATA adapter & an IDE only mobo. The SATA HDD seems to have an existing install of WinXP which was installed as a SATA HDD install. I'm guessing very few of us have ever tried doing such an install (I know I've never done that). Yes, I remember F6 to insert the floppy to load the SATA drivers. Things really are easier with newer hardware IMO, but it is still fun going back & reliving the pains we went through. I just installed WinME on an old Athlon XP 1700+, that was entertaining & a giant pita. lol
Thanks for that BobbyI've done countless hundreds of XP installs and have never seen what that guy is going through. There'd always be that lag when the install (or dirty repair) reached 34% left but when 33% showed up you knew it was going to work. I do recall having to install drivers from floppys at the beginning of the install for some mobos though. I've never seen a XP install fail at the final end of the process. If OP lived within 50 miles of me I'd go build the PC for him.
System Name | Gamer |
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Processor | Ryzen 7 5800X3D |
Motherboard | Gigabyte X570 Aorus Elite WIFI |
Cooling | Apogee XL, MCR360, MCP655, Micro-rez |
Memory | 2x16GB G.Skill DDR4-3600 CL16 |
Video Card(s) | Red Dragon RX 6800 XT |
Storage | WD SN850 1TB & SN750 1TB |
Display(s) | LG 32GK650F-B 32" 1440p 144Hz |
Case | Rocketfish (Lian Li) e-ATX |
Audio Device(s) | Harman Kardon HK695 2.1 |
Power Supply | Seasonic Focus GM-750 |
Mouse | HP Gaming wired |
Keyboard | Logitech G110 wired |
VR HMD | HP WMR 1440^2 |
Software | Win10 Pro 64bit |
That comment really made me laugh. So true for many of us.Back in my post #14,634 I showed my oldest still fully functional rig. My sister has a close twin of it I built at the same time for her but it's in a Sky Hawk aluminum Eagle case with the removable motherboard tray (mine was originally in one of those as well) that's been sitting unused in a closet since around 2004 after her daughter trashed the monitor. I can have it back for free but only if I go pick it up in Colorado (I'm in Wisconsin). I eventually will sometime later this year then when I get it back home put ME on it for giggles. Fortunately I still have the driver disc with the Silicon Image SATA drivers on it that came with the Asus A7N8X mobo.
Sometimes I wonder how much combined time I spent watching the install screen progress in 98, 98SE, 2000, ME and XP. It has to be a few months at the very least.