When will gpu prices return to normal.

[ARF]

Dunno about you, but I can (and did) say no for a pretty long time. Though I eventually broke down and said "Yes" to a $190 3050... And if that hadn't happened, I prolly would have cracked when 6600s hit $250. (New, to be clear.)

I also say no to the high RX 6800 XT pricing. Tried an RX 560 as a stop gap but it is so terribly slow (actually slower than my notebook's RX 560X), that I eventually threw it away and currently stay without a desktop machine altogether.

Better to stay without a PC, than to be screwed by greedy top management of a foreign corporation, which uses private jets to travel the world over...

 

[GreiverBlade]

Even in a situation of an unfair market economy dominated by the large corporation, there should be at least a seed of reasoning for that high pricing.
How will nvidia convince the average joe that they must pay now, all of a sudden, a grand for their new graphics cards.
The mining craze is dead now. So why?

yeah i know ... but i call that the "Switzerland syndrome" as i said, would you like a 544$ 1070?

nah right luckily mining is declining (let's hope 7X00 and 40XX will now awake that plague again )

but still as i mentioned : between the 1070 and 2070, thus the new gen was priced 120$ higher than the previous gen at that time thus if lucky the 40XX will be still in the same price range, or at worse case scenario, the 40XX will get a price hike, they already shown us they would do it ... from 6XX to 10XX and then 20XX to 30XX/40XX, if the 4070 is really priced 500$ it would only make a 1$ hike over the "499$" of the 2070/3070. (if it's not a one time occurence, then it's a trend.)

i should quote ... but, oh well...

anyhow, i did not want to be stuck with my 1070 for 6 more years ... thus once the unicorn was finally found (aka reference MSRP) on one discounted custom model i jumped (yeah, i'm getting old repeating myself over and over )

 

[64K]

Even in a situation of an unfair market economy dominated by the large corporation, there should be at least a seed of reasoning for that high pricing.
How will nvidia convince the average joe that they must pay now, all of a sudden, a grand for their new graphics cards.
The mining craze is dead now. So why?

The price of Etherium is moving back up slowly. It hovered around $1,100 for a while but now it's back up to $1,500. Far from dead but not close to past levels. As far as mining profitability I have no idea.

 

[Lei]

The thing is that a new RTX 4070 will probably be faster than RTX 3090 and cost less.

Of course, after the snow melts this Xmas

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1547805136210509824

Given that new 3090s go for $1300 and ti's for $1.5K, that's very likely. And unsurprising given the 90-series is the new Titan.

U mean 4090 will be 1499$? It won't be a nightmare to me because I already paid for a 4k monitor recently.... But remember 4090 die size is much bigger than 4080 and thus having same msrp of 3090 is highly unlikely.

Well I'm eyeing on a rog or suprim, preferably used with active backplate watercool. So it's not a 1300$ I'm throwing my lacerating paws at

The price of Etherium is moving back up slowly. It hovered around $1,100 for a while but now it's back up to $1,500. Far from dead but not close to past levels. As far as mining profitability I have no idea.

If I meet Vitalik Buterin, he'd be removed from the category of living people on Wikipedia.
I condemn assassination of Shinzo Abe, but I'll make myself famous by putting Vitalik's life to an end. His fish bones are easy to break.

 

[64K]

If I meet Vitalik Buterin, he'd be removed from the category of living people on Wikipedia.
I condemn assassination of Shinzo Abe, but I'll make myself famous by putting Vitalik's life to an end. His fish bones are easy to break.

Pretty sure that threatening to kill someone online is a bad idea. You should probably consider editing your post.

 

[R-T-B]

It is called scalping and it is seen across all segments

Scalping only works when demand already exceeds supply.

 

[Lei]

Scalping only works when demand already exceeds supply.

Speaking of more demand than supply, makes me want to see how Ada lovelace launch looks like.
No matter inflation or what price, but the demand

 

[MarsM4N]

Speaking of more demand than supply, makes me want to see how Ada lovelace launch looks like.
No matter inflation or what price, but the demand

Demand from the consumer sheeple will always be there.

The big factor will be how many have the moneyz to throw out for tech in times of inflation/recession.

 

[ARF]

RTX 4090 shows 2.2 times the FPS of RTX 3090. Don't buy the old. Wait the new.

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 Graphics Card Allegedly Delivers Over 160 FPS In Control With RT & DLSS at 4K, 2x Performance Gain Over RTX 3090 (wccftech.com)

 

[The red spirit]

Demand from the consumer sheeple will always be there.

The big factor will be how many have the moneyz to throw out for tech in times of inflation/recession.

It's not necessarily them. Most GPUs end up in OEM machines like Dell, HP. They actually sold at reasonable prices, meanwhile DIY market went completely nuts and jacked up prices to the moon.

 

[Lei]

RTX 4090 shows 2.2 times the FPS of RTX 3090. Don't buy the old. Wait the new.

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 Graphics Card Allegedly Delivers Over 160 FPS In Control With RT & DLSS at 4K, 2x Performance Gain Over RTX 3090 (wccftech.com)

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10 minutes ago an Asus Rog with double layer watercooling was sold at 1015$

Now you're telling me wait 2 more months for a 2000$ 4080
Then in late October I'll be looking at 3090s returning back from the Vietnam war

 

[ARF]

10 minutes ago an Asus Rog with double layer watercooling was sold at 1015$

Now you're telling me wait 2 more months for a 2000$ 4080
Then in late October I'll be looking at 3090s returning back from the Vietnam war

RTX 4080 will be no more than $700-800.
Don't be so pessimistic

 

[Lei]

RTX 4080 will be no more than $700-800.
Don't be so pessimistic

I have PhD in AI. Give me all the vram you've got


16gb vram.... When I buy beer, I don't grab a bottle, I lift the box and walk away

 

[Blaeza]

I have PhD in AI. Give me all the vram you've got

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16gb vram.... When I buy beer, I don't grab a bottle, I lift the box and walk away

I take the whole distillery. 32GB Vram

 

[ARF]

16 GB would suffice.

 

[ppn]

4060 8 GB ~ 3070, 70 Ti, 80 - $399
4070 10 GB ~ 3080, 90, 90 Ti - $499

In 9 to 6 months. The most affordable card that can run 4K, the 4050 might take what seems like forever to release since they have to sell the 3060/60 Ti first..

 

[ARF]

4060 8 GB ~ 3070, 70 Ti, 80 - $399
4070 10 GB ~ 3080, 90, 90 Ti - $499

Those memory capacities are bad - the cards will struggle.
We have already seen that RTX 3080 with only 10 GB is a no-go..

 

[Bomby569]

4060 8 GB ~ 3070, 70 Ti, 80 - $399
4070 10 GB ~ 3080, 90, 90 Ti - $499

In 9 to 6 months. The most affordable card that can run 4K, the 4050 might take what seems like forever to release since they have to sell the 3060/60 Ti first..

what does that matter, buy whatever equivalent card from the current line up from AMD or NVidia, are you buying performance or the number printed on the cardbox?

 

[80-watt Hamster]

RTX 4080 will be no more than $700-800.
Don't be so pessimistic

4060 8 GB ~ 3070, 70 Ti, 80 - $399
4070 10 GB ~ 3080, 90, 90 Ti - $499

Launch RRP? I find that hard to swallow.

 

[ppn]

Yes, in those times we get MSRP taxes excluded. Crypto dwindles, supply is abundant. New generation is imminent. What a year to be alive unless covid hits. Just pointing out that possibly 4060 is cheaper than 3070 Ti by a lot $200 at least. In some countries that goes for a monthly salary that you are giving away for what. A penny saved is a penny earned. I have no concerns about 8 GB being enough, details don't have to be maxed to ultra, Normal is just as good in most cases.

 

[RJARRRPCGP]

Prices are already considered normal here. They were heading towards normal back in March, where I still wished the RX 6600 XT was less than $500-something, but I was able to get it. I wasn't swamped with out-of-stock or not-available messages from e-tailers.

The meme of '21:

Out of stock error for most video cards or a not-available error message from the e-tailer.

Along with being unable to even get a Ryzen 5 5600X!

 

[ARF]

Prices are already considered normal here. They were heading towards normal back in March, where I still wished the RX 6600 XT was less than $500-something, but I was able to get it. I wasn't swamped with out-of-stock or not-available messages from e-tailers.

I don't see anything normal in the current pricing. Remember that those cards are old already - 2 year-old and counting.

You know that normally such old cards fall well below their original MSRP, which doesn't happen. They are still at around the level or over the original MSRP.

 

[_JP_]

Be advised that right now no brand is competing, we had a bunch of paper launches during the beginning of the lockdowns, if you all recall, and then the current gen was launched to price-match each other.
Crypto dwindling the need for the cards will create anxiety in the investors so both AMD and nVidia (and Intel) will have to keep them happy by assuring that YoY profits will not collapse due to the "normal" fluctuation of the markets post the abnormal period of the pandemic. There was waaay too much money made in the last two years, do not forget that, and humans do not react well to withdrawal from what the feel is great for them (i.e. as an investor, cash flow).
It was proved that Intel can't mine (and somehow managed to make a modern-day i740 with the A380) and unless there's another gimmick coming (looking at Metaverse/AI/ML/NFTs shit) that does nothing for games that barely take advantage of DX12, prices will just stay as they are "just because".
The price wars of 2007-2013 are long gone.

 

[ARF]

The price wars of 2007-2013 are long gone.

I don't think anyone demands "price wars".
Price wars was meant to keep AMD afloat when it was the underdog with Radeon HD 3870, and previously the mediocre Radeon HD 2900 XT.
Back then, you could buy the high-end Radeon HD 4890 for as low as $195.

Today, even the crappiest, entry level, shit card Radeon RX 6400 costs as much.

 

[mouacyk]

Near msrp 2 years after launch is not normal