Samsung 970 EVO Plus temperature sensor?

[ThrashZone]

The fan is only 3 pin sadly so I cannot read anything of it but it spins like crazy



Tell that to my drive because honestly I think this was the reason last time I tried to game I had a bad time even my game SSD is always 10c cooler then med 970 EVO Plus.

Hi,
Just being connected to a fan port even a 3 pin would show up in hwinfo.

But yeah mine spin pretty darn fast to

 

[Mussels]

2 pin is power only
3 pin has RPM
4 pin uses 12 volt only with PWM (and also has RPM)


Anything on a 3 pin header should be controllable, although you can get situations that are PWM only (i've got a fan hub that's PWM only, so 3 pin fans go brrrrrr)

 

[Rumcajs997]

Check this video out, I installed such cheap radiator from Aliexpress with thermal pads thickness shown in this video and in a 14" laptop (Zephyrus G14) my 970 Evo Plus 2tb reports 38C-40C while surfing Internet and max 62C after heavy tests (all aps showing the same temp). And it's 32C ambient temp today!

I'm a bit worried if the sensor works correctly as those temps are suspiciously low for this model. I read many topics where people had 55-60C at Idle.

 

[Shou Miko]

Check this video out, I installed such cheap radiator from Aliexpress with thermal pads thickness shown in this video and in a 14" laptop (Zephyrus G14) my 970 Evo Plus 2tb reports 38C-40C while surfing Internet and max 62C after heavy tests (all aps showing the same temp). And it's 32C ambient temp today!

I'm a bit worried if the sensor works correctly as those temps are suspiciously low for this model. I read many topics where people had 55-60C at Idle.

I actually bought 2 of the m.2. coolers from ICY Box so I "borrowed" one of the thermalpads from the second one and cut it over almost half way and so far idling temps are like wow WTF

But putting on the tempered glass side panel made the temps go up

I feel this SSD most be cursed or something to no being able to run low temps it's still about 10c higher then my Sabrent Rocket 4.0 as you can see on the hwinfo above.

 

[P4-630]

I actually bought 2 of the m.2. coolers from ICY Box so I "borrowed" one of the thermalpads from the second one and cut it over almost half way and so far idling temps are like wow WTF

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Noice!!

 

[Shou Miko]

Noice!!

Yeah, so it might have fixed my issue a little but I will see how it will go doing gaming this evening if it just blows up in temperature again because it would be nice to save the money but if it's gonna run hot like hell and not like the pussycat doll (Even they wasn't hot) I will still concider changing it.

Hmm my drive still goes to 65c while gaming while my Sabrent is max 55c which is the one running the same.

 

[Rumcajs997]

But such temperature during stress is not bad. You don't know what Sabrent is reporting, whether it's mem chip or controller temp when Samsung reports both. On top of that there might be a massive difference between what is reported and what the real temp is. If Sabrent was 45C and Samsung 75C in same condition, then I would be worried. But currently it doesn't look bad IMO.

 

[AsRock]

2 pin is power only
3 pin has RPM
4 pin uses 12 volt only with PWM (and also has RPM)


Anything on a 3 pin header should be controllable, although you can get situations that are PWM only (i've got a fan hub that's PWM only, so 3 pin fans go brrrrrr)

Which might be solvable though the program called Fan Control, why i say that is that program even shows a fan that ASRock added a fan header that is not available. Like shi you can even get control of the gpu fans though it.

GitHub - Rem0o/FanControl.Releases: This is the release repository for Fan Control, a highly customizable fan controlling software for Windows.

This is the release repository for Fan Control, a highly customizable fan controlling software for Windows. - Rem0o/FanControl.Releases

github.com

 

[Shou Miko]

Which might be solvable though the program called Fan Control, why i say that is that program even shows a fan that ASRock added a fan header that is not available. Like shi you can even get control of the gpu fans though it.

GitHub - Rem0o/FanControl.Releases: This is the release repository for Fan Control, a highly customizable fan controlling software for Windows.

This is the release repository for Fan Control, a highly customizable fan controlling software for Windows. - Rem0o/FanControl.Releases

github.com

I already have it but haven't managed to pick up the cooling fan, but I will have to take apart my computer when I get home from work to day because I cannot remember if I plugged it into the cases fan hub or what I did because I think I was running out of fan headers to use.

 

[Mussels]

But putting on the tempered glass side panel made the temps go up

That tells you the problem: your case airflow sucks.

You very likely need to balance out the airflow better, with more in from bottom and front, and less out the rear/top - that passive venting of over-pressure air is what blows over internal components

 

[Shou Miko]

That tells you the problem: your case airflow sucks.

You very likely need to balance out the airflow better, with more in from bottom and front, and less out the rear/top - that passive venting of over-pressure air is what blows over internal components

Almost when my faster Sabrent Rocket SSD is over 10c colder and the passive heatsink on that one doesn't feel that hot?

The guide said 1mm and 0.5mm but I didn't feel like spending £23 for something that Samsung could fix before releasing their drive because the 980 also sufferer from height differences between the ram and controller and weird it's not a problem on the 250 or 500GB models from what I seen in laptops.

 

[Rumcajs997]

I don`t know what is going on. Yesterday my 970 Evo Plus in Zephyrus G14 was sitting at 39C while surfing internet. Today it doesn`t go below 46C when it`s totally idling - the ambient temperature is the same. Is there any way to check the power state the drive is in? Maybe it doesn`t go low enough for some reason?

 

[Shou Miko]

That tells you the problem: your case airflow sucks.

You very likely need to balance out the airflow better, with more in from bottom and front, and less out the rear/top - that passive venting of over-pressure air is what blows over internal components

Sorry to kinda shoot holes in your theory there @Mussels I have changed around my NVME drives and my Sabrent dropped like 14c and my Samsung which can get even better airflow from the front in my case and the cpu cooler actually runs at 60c on the controller

So I guess it my 970 Evo Plus doesn't like to be me OS drive and yes I run the fan on the built in fan hub because my board is out of headers

 

[ThrashZone]

Sorry to kinda shoot holes in your theory there @Mussels I have changed around my NVME drives and my Sabrent dropped like 14c and my Samsung which can get even better airflow from the front in my case and the cpu cooler actually runs at 60c on the controller
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So I guess it my 970 Evo Plus doesn't like to be me OS drive and yes I run the fan on the built in fan hub because my board is out of headers

Hi,
Yeah probably wouldn't like being a data drive either
I'd flush it personally and get different brand same as you have or western digital black.

 

[Shou Miko]

Hi,
Yeah probably wouldn't like being a data drive either
I'd flush it personally and get different brand same as you have or western digital black.

Hi @ThrashZone yeah it's just really weird I am not sure why it keeps behaving like this I feel it's cursed.

I properly either selling it alone or bundles it with my CPU and motherboard when I got Zen4.

I have been looking at another Sabrent Rocket NVME SSD for my OS drive and right now they are on sale right now the 3.0 is 115euro and the 4.0 is 112euro on Amazon.de. (I am not sure why the 3.0 is more expensive )

I might grap the 4.0 even the 3.0 is far then enough for me speed wise even I only got my current 2TB because I made a deal with one of my cousins that needed to sell it

 

[Rumcajs997]

Take a look at WD SN770. It's got an amazing performance and stays pretty cool. It was available for around 150£ during Amazon sale 2-3 weeks ago 2tb variant. I regret massively that I was thinking for too long and they bought them all.

 

[Shou Miko]

Take a look at WD SN770. It's got an amazing performance and stays pretty cool. It was available for around 150£ during Amazon sale 2-3 weeks ago 2tb variant. I regret massively that I was thinking for too long and they bought them all.

Problem for me is that it's either on par or a little more expensive than the Sabrent Rocket 4.0 which I already got one of and I totally love it.

I wish I already knew that Sabrent's DDR5 4800MHz ram would work in Zen4 I would purchase 2x16GB already but I don't know that's why I haven't pulled the trigger yet.

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
Really the tell tell sign of issues with the m.2 is using the cooler you have
I have one, a different brand but they do make a large difference or at least should be doing much better on that 970.

 

[Mussels]

Almost when my faster Sabrent Rocket SSD is over 10c colder and the passive heatsink on that one doesn't feel that hot?

The guide said 1mm and 0.5mm but I didn't feel like spending £23 for something that Samsung could fix before releasing their drive because the 980 also sufferer from height differences between the ram and controller and weird it's not a problem on the 250 or 500GB models from what I seen in laptops.

Just because it's faster doesnt mean anything about temps at all

Some devices produce more heat... and that changes nothing about the airflow in your case cooking it

 

[DrPhibes01]

Actually have my son's older Alienware 17 R4 (2017 model) with a 970 EVO plus in it, no accessory heat sink. Have it sitting up on a minimal wire frame support as to give almost 100% all around natural heat dissipation with lid at about 45 degrees while HDMI'd to my 4K TV. Without any additional cooling other than the included fans, will hit about 61C just idling (strangly while Firefox is running but idle, a bit lower if not). Placed a $2 USB fan blowing into the case at an angle into the bottom intake grill and it knocks 10C minimum off the temp. Usually about 15C. Sustained load temps are about the same difference.

 

[AsRock]

I actually bought 2 of the m.2. coolers from ICY Box so I "borrowed" one of the thermalpads from the second one and cut it over almost half way and so far idling temps are like wow WTF

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But putting on the tempered glass side panel made the temps go up
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I feel this SSD most be cursed or something to no being able to run low temps it's still about 10c higher then my Sabrent Rocket 4.0 as you can see on the hwinfo above.

Yeah the Sabrent R4 does pretty dam well on temps.=, remember mines under a really hot GPU with Sabrent's heatsink.