When will gpu prices return to normal.

[Lei]

NVIDIA cards are produced by Samsung?

Ampere
GA102

 

[skizzo]

Interesting you mention that. I've found that the real bottleneck is my game library, which is getting old and hasn't seen any new titles added in the last 12 months.

I'm not sure what has happened with the game industry lately but I've checked online stores many times and have consistently found absolutely nothing of interest. On the occasion that I do play, it's usually an old game I'm revisiting or maybe a single round of Rocket League. There's no games out there that I have my eye on at the moment. It's a total yawn-fest.

really? man I think the opposite! there are SO MANY good games out there, and my problem is I want to play them all. But since there is only 24 hours in a day and I need to have a life outside of staring at a TV I have a Steam wish list with 41 games on it along with handful in my current library that have only ~30mins of play time which was just to check they run and I didn't need to refund sort of thing. I think it's pointless for me to buy a game just for it to sit in my library so I stopped buying stuff "just 'cause it's on sale and good deal". I'll buy it later when I find time for it and it will likely be cheaper by then.

but hey, everyone likes what they like and you don't have to explain yourself to anyone there. if nothing tickles your fancy that is new on the market....if I were you I'd say it's a good time to revisit a favorite I haven't played in a while. ahh nostalgia, 'member? yea I 'member!

 

[Appalachian]

If 4080 comes with 16gb or 4090 comes at 1500$, I may get a bit upset.
But still, my 920$ 3090 was a captain's decision. I'm already using over 16gb in some cases.

The point I didn't wait more for used market prices to go any lower was: I thought a used card is like tomato, you get fresh ones if you get up early and rotten ones if you arrive in the evening

I'm with you there. I'm a bit risk averse, especially when it comes to computer components.

I got tired of waiting and just picked one up .

Man, its been killing me holding out. I actually bought a 12G 3080 for $799 about a month ago when I had too much to drink one night. I sent it back unopened when it got here.

 

[wheresmycar]

Ampere
GA102

Sweet. Samsungs everywhere... watched a video sometime back, its not just products but services, government projects, etc etc... Legend has it no coding is involved, its just vocal algorithms with a guy called Sam who sung a song and Samsung was born.

 

[AsRock]

I'm with you there. I'm a bit risk averse, especially when it comes to computer components.


Man, its been killing me holding out. I actually bought a 12G 3080 for $799 about a month ago when I had too much to drink one night. I sent it back unopened when it got here.

hehe, well the one i got was the RX-69XTACSD9 which is the limited version for $770 shipped, just playing the waiting game now. Only thing i am worried about right now is the spacing from the CPU cooler hahaha.

Always wanted to play thought the witcher 3 again but with a solid 60FPS and this should do it haha.

 

[SpittinFax]

really? man I think the opposite! there are SO MANY good games out there, and my problem is I want to play them all. But since there is only 24 hours in a day and I need to have a life outside of staring at a TV I have a Steam wish list with 41 games on it along with handful in my current library that have only ~30mins of play time which was just to check they run and I didn't need to refund sort of thing. I think it's pointless for me to buy a game just for it to sit in my library so I stopped buying stuff "just 'cause it's on sale and good deal". I'll buy it later when I find time for it and it will likely be cheaper by then.

but hey, everyone likes what they like and you don't have to explain yourself to anyone there. if nothing tickles your fancy that is new on the market....if I were you I'd say it's a good time to revisit a favorite I haven't played in a while. ahh nostalgia, 'member? yea I 'member!

Actually the only games I've been playing to any real extent lately are original Playstation 1 titles. They're great when you just want to grab a controller and jump right into a game, even if it's only a quick 10 minute session. It's quite a luxury not having to wait for updates.

 

[NoJuan999]

Well i have 0 interest in any PC using 500-700w+, yeah i could of waited a little longer and most likely should of waited until next month, but at least i got the one i wanted HAHA.

Ohh i payed no were near double haha.

What GPU do you have?
I am a big fan of buying affordable GPU's. I am currently still running an RTX 2060 Super that I bought in 2019. I spent just over $400 USD for it and I will not be replacing it until I can get a 3060Ti or 3070 for around $400. I will then sell my 2060 Super for $150-200.

Not everyone is interested in running a GPU that costs close to a thousand dollars and needs a 800-1000 Watt PSU.

 

[AsRock]

What GPU do you have?
I am a big fan of buying affordable GPU's. I am currently still running an RTX 2060 Super that I bought in 2019. I spent just over $400 USD for it and I will not be replacing it until I can get a 3060Ti or 3070 for around $400. I will then sell my 2060 Super for $150-200.

Not everyone is interested in running a GPU that costs close to a thousand dollars and needs a 800-1000 Watt PSU.

AMD 390X (290X originally ) so some 300% improvment over this card so no 40% bs hahaha.

 

[GamerGuy]

I have a question which may be OT, but someone in the local forums in my neck of the woods is selling his Asus TUF RTX 3080 Ti 12GB for about 633USD, worth getting? Not sure about warranty status and such yet, though I've asked him and awaiting his reply.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

I have a question which may be OT, but someone in the local forums in my neck of the woods is selling his Asus TUF RTX 3080 Ti 12GB for about 633USD, worth getting? Not sure about warranty status and such yet, though I've asked him and awaiting his reply.

Sounds ok, the 4070 or ti should be in the ball park for around $600-650 is my guess maybe 5-10% faster but you'd have to wait and try to actually buy one whenever they release.

 

[GamerGuy]

Sounds ok, the 4070 or ti should be in the ball park for around $600-650 is my guess maybe 5-10% faster but you'd have to wait and try to actually buy one whenever they release.

Thanks, but I ain't biting because there was another interested party, I don't want to be caught in a bidding war so I'd withdrawn. Anyway, anxiously awaiting news of RX 7900 XT, etc.

 

[Valantar]

NVIDIA cards are produced by Samsung?

Their GPU chips, yes, not the cards themselves, as those are produced by board partners. But Nvidia has no ability to change the characteristics of a GPU die once it leaves Samsung's production lines.

What GPU do you have?
I am a big fan of buying affordable GPU's. I am currently still running an RTX 2060 Super that I bought in 2019. I spent just over $400 USD for it and I will not be replacing it until I can get a 3060Ti or 3070 for around $400. I will then sell my 2060 Super for $150-200.

Not everyone is interested in running a GPU that costs close to a thousand dollars and needs a 800-1000 Watt PSU.

Seeing how the 2060 Super is still an excellent GPU, and the 3060 Ti is ~35% faster, that sounds like a pretty bad plan. $400 two years later for a 35% performance increase, even if you reduce that to ~$250 by selling the old GPU, is rather poor value for money - an additional ~35% performance for an additional ~63% expense? You'll most likely be far better off by keeping the 2060S for another year and getting whatever you can find in that price range by then - whether that's a 4050, 4060, 4060 Ti, whatever. The 3060 Ti performance increase isn't large enough to be a real game changer - it can be matched in most games by lowering a setting or two by one notch.

Good supply and low prices will only happen if it suits the manufacturer, at the end of the day.

Not in any kind of moderately healthy market.

 

[Space Lynx]

RTX 3090 Ti is $999 now with spider man game for free.

I'm seriously tempted. Shit. I want to wait for next gen... but on same hand we all know next gen is going to be hard as hell to get our hands on cause of third party store bot scalper bitches.

 

[Lei]

@GamerGuy @CallandorWoT

You can wait 6 days to find out msrp of next gen.
Nvidia already showed by 3090Ti and 80Ti that more money was printed this year than in entire history (inflation) but anyways you can pick an Ampere next week with more confidence. Be careful thought, if you wait too much baby will run away.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

Thanks, but I ain't biting because there was another interested party, I don't want to be caught in a bidding war so I'd withdrawn. Anyway, anxiously awaiting news of RX 7900 XT, etc.

Don't blame you I'd be waiting as well for either a next gen card or even better deals on current.

 

[Bomby569]

RTX 3090 Ti is $999 now with spider man game for free.

I'm seriously tempted. Shit. I want to wait for next gen... but on same hand we all know next gen is going to be hard as hell to get our hands on cause of third party store bot scalper bitches.

you are literally on top of the ethereum transition and the next gen release. You couldn't possible find a worst time to buy a gpu, just wait.

 

[Space Lynx]

you are literally on top of the ethereum transition and the next gen release. You couldn't possible find a worst time to buy a gpu, just wait.

none of that matters. the real problem is the massive increase in number of third party sellers who have bots that buy up the supply of any new hot tech item released to gain a quick buck on supply and demand issues. ps5 for example, it would have been sold out for a long time, true, but not as long as it was if it wasn't for the scalper bots.

 

[Bomby569]

none of that matters. the real problem is the massive increase in number of third party sellers who have bots that buy up the supply of any new hot tech item released to gain a quick buck on supply and demand issues. ps5 for example, it would have been sold out for a long time, true, but not as long as it was if it wasn't for the scalper bots.

the money printing machine is in reverse now, inflation is at all time high, recession. Completely different times, i doubt the bots will do much damage if any.

PS: Again, this may not apply to the 4090ti super mega because the ultra deep pockets always have money. But things like a 4060, 4070 or even a 4080 will not see insane demand.

 

[nguyen]

the money printing machine is in reverse now, inflation is at all time high, recession. Completely different times, i doubt the bots will do much damage if any.

PS: Again, this may not apply to the 4090ti super mega because the ultra deep pockets always have money. But things like a 4060, 4070 or even a 4080 will not see insane demand.

It's the opposite, scalpers will target the cheaper GPUs....rtx3090 had good availability at launch and a few months after that, meanwhile 3060ti, 3070 and 3080 were scalped to hell.

 

[Lei]

@Bomby569 bitcoiners can literally be bragging about their lovelace hashrate this Christmas

Well, this is interesting. We actually had an increase in the last report from 3dcenter

Link

 

[64K]

If you're in the US, you really don't have to look hard. More than 10% of the population live below the official poverty line, which is low. For children, the poverty rate is >16%. For a single person with no children, aged 65 or less, the US poverty rate for 2021 was $14100. For a family of four, with two children below the age of 18, the poverty rate is $27500. And so on. And more than 10% of the population live below this threshold. A lot of these people go hungry a lot of the time. For a lot of kids, school lunches are the most nutritious meal they get in a day.

I live in the USA and we take care of our own. No one is starving here. The "below poverty rate" is meaningless compared to third world countries where people really are starving.

 

[Valantar]

I live in the USA and we take care of our own. No one is starving here. The "below poverty rate" is meaningless compared to third world countries where people really are starving.

That's an excellent example of whataboutism. "Suffering here doesn't matter/isn't real because suffering elsewhere is worse" is not a logically sound argument - and placing yourself as the judge of who is "really starving" is ... yeah, maybe have a think about that? As for saying that "below the poverty line" is meaningless - have you tried living off $14100/year with zero external support? I'd guess not. In most semi-densely populated US areas that sum would barely cover rent, let alone food or other living expenses.

Also, both in culture and policy, you in the US very explicitly do not take care of your own. You've been systematically deconstructing any and all societal support structures for decades now. Laissez-faire politics (aka. "small government" thinking) is not a way of taking care of anyone but the wealthy - it is the explicit policy of the state not being placed in a role of caring for its subjects. If you took care of your own, you would have universally available healthcare, better labor laws, strong unions, and a bunch more. Charity is a band-aid on a severed artery; its main function is to alleviate the conscience of those giving and to give the impression of good-will towards those suffering, while doing little to nothing towards actually alleviating poverty and suffering in any real way. That doesn't mean it doesn't help - it very clearly does help those people receiving it in that specific moment. It is just nowhere near sufficient to actually change their situation, outside of a few random cases.

 

[64K]

That's an excellent example of whataboutism. "Suffering here doesn't matter/isn't real because suffering elsewhere is worse" is not a logically sound argument - and placing yourself as the judge of who is "really starving" is ... yeah, maybe have a think about that? As for saying that "below the poverty line" is meaningless - have you tried living off $14100/year with zero external support? I'd guess not. In most semi-densely populated US areas that sum would barely cover rent, let alone food or other living expenses.

Also, both in culture and policy, you in the US very explicitly do not take care of your own. You've been systematically deconstructing any and all societal support structures for decades now. Laissez-faire politics (aka. "small government" thinking) is not a way of taking care of anyone but the wealthy - it is the explicit policy of the state not being placed in a role of caring for its subjects. If you took care of your own, you would have universally available healthcare, better labor laws, strong unions, and a bunch more. Charity is a band-aid on a severed artery; its main function is to alleviate the conscience of those giving and to give the impression of good-will towards those suffering, while doing little to nothing towards actually alleviating poverty and suffering in any real way. That doesn't mean it doesn't help - it very clearly does help those people receiving it in that specific moment. It is just nowhere near sufficient to actually change their situation, outside of a few random cases.

Do you want to know what real poverty is. Try to make a living on $500 USD a month equivalent in some third world countries but this is off topic so I'm out of this discussion.

 

[authorized]

Do you want to know what real poverty is. Try to make a living on $500 USD a month equivalent in some third world countries but this is off topic so I'm out of this discussion.

Not even third world, some european countries have minimum monthly wages that are on a similar level, or even lower.

 

[outpt]

this thread has run off tte rails