Microsoft Unveils the Windows 11 2022 Update, Available Today

AusWolf · Sep 21, 2022

L'Eliminateur said:
Windows 10 already has all those mitigations, win11 does not add anything new save for that "full virtualized" and "smart app control" mode that comes disabled by default as it nukes your performance.

Also, first thing i do on win10 is to disable any and all mitigations, all that "side channel" nonsense is moot for desktop users and ends up hurting performance.
When i upgrade to new platforms, i'll do the same disabling any and all mitigations inw indows, bios, and firmware. I want and paid for performance , not for some dumb patch to do a regression to 2 cpu generations behind

The only mitigation I need is a fix for Defender's background CPU usage on Intel CPUs. Something tells me that this isn't Microsof's main focus right now.

RJARRRPCGP · Sep 21, 2022

Just installed the update on the 20th. But, I did wipe my Western Digital Black SN850 1 TB SSD, after getting the 11 22H2 ISO on to a USB flash drive.

I didn't let Windows Update install on my older installation from June.

Minus Infinity · Sep 21, 2022

Honestly I would only install 11 as an experiment on an old laptop I have that I don't really use. I would install a no_TPM version just to see how much it sucks and based on my wife's work laptop, it's sucks big time. This is Vista all over. I hoipe 12 is a lot better, as I may have to go to Linux after 2025 when win 10 support finishes.

trparky · Sep 21, 2022

AusWolf said:
The only mitigation I need is a fix for Defender's background CPU usage on Intel CPUs. Something tells me that this isn't Microsof's main focus right now.

Windows 11 22H2.

This performance issue appears to be fixed.

chrcoluk · Sep 21, 2022

So smart copy copied form office (personally find the feature annoying), taskbar overflow which seems a recognition that the big massive touch UI style taskbar icons are inadequate for environments with lots of apps open.

The one feature they listed which sounds cool to me is tabbed explorer windows.

trparky · Sep 21, 2022

chrcoluk said:
The one feature they listed which sounds cool to me is tabbed explorer windows.

Yes, that's supposed to be coming (hopefully) in October with the "Moment One" update. SMH

Minus Infinity · Sep 21, 2022

chrcoluk said:
So smart copy copied form office (personally find the feature annoying), taskbar overflow which seems a recognition that the big massive touch UI style taskbar icons are inadequate for environments with lots of apps open.

The one feature they listed which sounds cool to me is tabbed explorer windows.

How quaint of them. Been using one since about 2000.

Mussels · Sep 21, 2022

Time to update the 4+ systems here and see what breaks

The heck is this, why would they throw in ads and pricing in a news post about a damn software update like you have to buy a new device

ARF said:
I've just installed it. The installation lasted 30 minutes from the Windows Update download and install button click to desktop ready installed.

It is terrible.

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The Task Manager looks so ugly now.
There is literally no contrast/visibility in the cores utilisation area:

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Unfortunately, I have to stick with it because I fear that Windows 10 doesn't fully support my configuration as is.

Isn't this based off the theme you're running?

I always change to the dark theme immediately

W1zzard · Sep 21, 2022

trparky said:
Windows 11 22H2.
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This performance issue appears to be fixed.

@unclewebb how can we confirm they really fixed it?

ARF · Sep 21, 2022

Mussels said:
Isn't this based off the theme you're running?

I always change to the dark theme immediately

I thought a person is free to use whatever theme they like without worrying about the readability of the screen contents.
The issue is global - lack of contrast, too thin lines/fonts and not visible/recognisable colours for the different tabs - CPU, GPU, memory, SSD, Wi-Fi...

Vayra86 · Sep 21, 2022

openbox1980 said:
Windows 11 is complete dog shit, takes me double the time to do lots of things vs windows 10, like copy and pasting to other tabs.

My laptop has 12th gen intel processor, I dont see any benefits to these shit e-cores. When I do movie editing, sometimes the editor program would switch over to the slower, stupid e-cores than the p-cores. Would stay that way for 10min until I pause and resume the program.

Windows 11 and 12th gen intel processors, complete dog $hit.

Wait until Windows 12, when CPU and OS version numbers line up, the experience is absolutely perfect! Its clear Intel is ahead of the game here

You're also fine with a Core gen number lower than the OS version number btw, I run 8th gen on Windows 10 and its smooth sailing too.

New rule of thumb for ya

Yes this is sarcasm

P4-630 · Sep 21, 2022

For the people who did the update, was it nagging you to sign in with/or create a microsoft account, even when you used a local account?
I only have a local account and like to keep it that way.
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ARF · Sep 21, 2022

P4-630 said:
For the people who did the update, was it nagging you to sign in with/or create a microsoft account, even when you used a local account?
I only have a local account and like to keep it that way.

No, no question about signing in. I'm still with my local account.

P4-630 · Sep 21, 2022

ARF said:
No, no question about signing in. I'm still with my local account.

Were you able to adjust the windows theme so the taskmanager performance tab looks better now?

ARF · Sep 21, 2022

P4-630 said:
Were you able to adjust the windows theme so the taskmanager performance tab looks better now?

No, of course not. A dark theme is not better. It is painful for my eyes.
I mean when you get used to looking at something dark and then switch to something lighter, it becomes really irritating.

P4-630 · Sep 21, 2022

ARF said:
A dark theme is not better. It is painful for my eyes.

I agree with you on that one, I also hate a dark theme with bright text, also with websites.

NutZInTheHead · Sep 21, 2022

For some reason when I right click on any folder it only has the option to "open" or "open in new window".
There is no option to open in new tab.
I have no idea. Anyone know what's going on?

SirB · Sep 21, 2022

openbox1980 said:
Windows 11 is complete dog shit, takes me double the time to do lots of things vs windows 10, like copy and pasting to other tabs.

My laptop has 12th gen intel processor, I dont see any benefits to these shit e-cores. When I do movie editing, sometimes the editor program would switch over to the slower, stupid e-cores than the p-cores. Would stay that way for 10min until I pause and resume the program.

Windows 11 and 12th gen intel processors, complete dog $hit.

11 gen doesn't have e-cores. But i agree about e-cores being crap we didn't ask for.

P4-630 said:
For the people who did the update, was it nagging you to sign in with/or create a microsoft account, even when you used a local account?
I only have a local account and like to keep it that way.
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nope.

NutZInTheHead · Sep 21, 2022

Okay. After some digging, found out that the tabs feature is not released yet. It is said to be coming later in October.
If anyone else was wondering why also

Ravenmaster · Sep 21, 2022

Not sure if it's just my imagination but audio quality seems to have been improved with this build of Windows 11. Everything sounds a bit clearer and louder after installing 22H2.

Darmok N Jalad · Sep 21, 2022

cvaldes said:
Weird, the right-click contextual menu pops up immediately for me (Excel from Office 2019 Home & Student, Windows 10 Pro 21H2). This is on my daily driver desktop PC build (Ryzen 7 3700X, 32GB RAM, B550-I mobo, RTX 3050 graphics).

I have a mundane notebook PC (Ice Lake CPU with integrated graphics, 8GB RAM, Win 10 Home, same version of Office) that performs similarly.

It’s not the right click menu that is slow, but when you select format cells…, the subwindow takes a long time to pull up.

P4-630 · Sep 21, 2022

Ok ... I did the update....

No Realtek audio, even after reinstalling the latest driver for my motherboard.

And Gigabyte App Center didn't work...

After another restart the Gigabyte App Center worked again and got a realtek driver update from it, restarting once more, audio back on and it seems ok now.

trparky · Sep 21, 2022

P4-630 said:
And Gigabyte App Center didn't work...

Gigabyte app? Do yourself a favor and dump that bloated and buggy piece of shit. Hell, if I were you and I had that installed on my system, I'd nuke the system from orbit and not at all let it touch my system.

P4-630 · Sep 21, 2022

trparky said:
Gigabyte app?

I use it to update my drivers and for fan profiles, when it works it works.

Slizzo · Sep 21, 2022

windwhirl said:
*chuckles nervously in using Insider Dev builds on my daily driver all the time

I'm an Insider on the Beta track, actually haven't had an issue since I've been so.

ARF said:
I've just installed it. The installation lasted 30 minutes from the Windows Update download and install button click to desktop ready installed.

It is terrible.

The Task Manager looks so ugly now.
There is literally no contrast/visibility in the cores utilisation area:

Unfortunately, I have to stick with it because I fear that Windows 10 doesn't fully support my configuration as is.

Dark Mode. Serious everyone running around here burning out their retinas?

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Microsoft Unveils the Windows 11 2022 Update, Available Today

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